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Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
that's because it's not good. But it's our only option.. unless you'd rather see Morrow or Jagr.
- MartysBetter88

slow and slower.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
Just blow it up! I don't get why teams are hesitant to do it. I am not being a Richard. I am a Jets fan trust me, I get it The best move it blow it up man. Just like why I don't get why the flames refuse to do the same thing. Build around Henrique and Larson stock pile picks, and come back in 4-5 years.

Also, I'd maybe follow the stars model of last year. Get Jagr, get Morrow, get another guy on 1 year deals. See what happens, and trade 'em to contenders when your presumably out of it for first rounders and prospects and load up the farm.

- mrhattrick27


If this had happened a month ago I would agree, but this happening now handcuffs them like no tomorrow
104shutout30
New Jersey Devils
Location: Holbrook, NY
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
Brunner-Loktionov-Ryder
Elias-Zajac-Olesz
Clowe-Henrique-Zubrus
Carter-Gionta-Bernier

Not bad.. right? Brunner has potential.. right? He had some streaks.. albeit with Datsyuk... right? Surely he could streak with Lokti and Ryder..?

- MartysBetter88


Loktionov played well with Kovalchuk, his stock just dropped with Kovalchuk leaving gotta go find chemistry with someone else
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
That could be the worst offensive lineup I have seen in years
- mighty13duck


2008 Isles were half that good lol
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
He figured if it could bring a cup in those 2 years, it would be worth it to lose the pick...

... and it almost worked.

- aecliptic


So, he was dead set on giving up the #30 pick, instead of 29?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 1m
As we said earlier, Kovalchuk's new deal with SKA St. Petersburg could be announced Friday, worth around $15M per

Wow.

- aecliptic

Guy is an absolute piece of garbage. Stay away from Russians!
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:46 PM ET
hey, whats your avatar pic from?
- Jurco_28

Clarkson in the finals and crimsoninja's eyes
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 11 @ 5:46 PM ET
So, he was dead set on giving up the #30 pick, instead of 29?
- rmdevil313


He would have been fine with it if it brought home a Stanley Cup.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:47 PM ET
Just blow it up! I don't get why teams are hesitant to do it. I am not being a Richard. I am a Jets fan trust me, I get it The best move it blow it up man. Just like why I don't get why the flames refuse to do the same thing. Build around Henrique and Larson stock pile picks, and come back in 4-5 years.

Also, I'd maybe follow the stars model of last year. Get Jagr, get Morrow, get another guy on 1 year deals. See what happens, and trade 'em to contenders when your presumably out of it for first rounders and prospects and load up the farm.

- mrhattrick27


You don't want to blow things up in a year you don't have your first round draft pick to benefit from being bottom of the league.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
without a first, you cant even offersheet anyone to help replace Kovy
Wheeler, and Stewart could of cashed in and it would be hard for Jets or Blues to match
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
He would have been fine with it if it brought home a Stanley Cup.
- aecliptic


I get that, but why when he knew that his best player would be gone for years, would he save the penalty for the year we don't have him? Like any good conspiracy theory, your argument is made up of lack of evidence and has a lot of holes.
AkA
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:49 PM ET

hahaha. fire and ice crashed. prob the first time ever.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:50 PM ET
Just blow it up! I don't get why teams are hesitant to do it. I am not being a Richard. I am a Jets fan trust me, I get it The best move it blow it up man. Just like why I don't get why the flames refuse to do the same thing. Build around Henrique and Larson stock pile picks, and come back in 4-5 years.

Also, I'd maybe follow the stars model of last year. Get Jagr, get Morrow, get another guy on 1 year deals. See what happens, and trade 'em to contenders when your presumably out of it for first rounders and prospects and load up the farm.

- mrhattrick27


I think that is what most fans want, although no harm in waiting a year. Not missing out on anything this year. We'll see what lou does.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:51 PM ET
without a first, you cant even offersheet anyone to help replace Kovy
Wheeler, and Stewart could of cashed in and it would be hard for Jets or Blues to match

- DDM-Coga

I thought I read they can use their 1st rounder from 2015 if they wanted to go the offer sheet route...maybe I am wrong
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:53 PM ET
What about the cap recapture penalties? The league has to give the Devils some dispensation on this one.
- Pete V

Why?
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:54 PM ET
I thought I read they can use their 1st rounder from 2015 if they wanted to go the offer sheet route...maybe I am wrong
- TPC


Please no. I'd rather just enter the rebuild anyway. Without Kovy our offense has no leader. No RFA available would have changed that. Good players, but they wouldn't put us back to where we were and we'd be an average team with no first round pick for 3 years. AKA: On track to become the flames. No need to make a bad situation worse.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:54 PM ET
I thought I read they can use their 1st rounder from 2015 if they wanted to go the offer sheet route...maybe I am wrong
- TPC


Dont believe that is so, I am sure you need all your draft picks in consecutive years, cant jump or skip years.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 11 @ 5:55 PM ET
God damn it we are so screwed.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:56 PM ET
I thought I read they can use their 1st rounder from 2015 if they wanted to go the offer sheet route...maybe I am wrong
- TPC


Only if the offersheet is over 6.2 million. If you owe multiple picks in the same round, you have to have them in the number of picks plus 1 years.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 11 @ 5:56 PM ET
I need to leave for a while. This is depressing. back to real life with real responsibilities. This is a sport with people i don't know or personally care about, and they don't know or personally care about me. go play your games, you high paid hockey players. have fun shooting pucks and doing drills and workouts. enjoy your R8, your H2, your Bentley, and your Jet. enjoy. I have to practice to play with Allie Moss. real life goes on.
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
I thought I read they can use their 1st rounder from 2015 if they wanted to go the offer sheet route...maybe I am wrong
- TPC

Yeah man, we already got penalized for his contract being cap circumvention. We should be penalized for him deciding not to play anymore. We should lose our team because we suck go rangers.
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
Also, good thing we got Rod Pelley back.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 11 @ 5:58 PM ET
I need to leave for a while. This is depressing. back to real life with real responsibilities. This is a sport with people i don't know or personally care about, and they don't know or personally care about me. go play your games, you high paid hockey players. have fun shooting pucks and doing drills and workouts. enjoy your R8, your H2, your Bentley, and your Jet. enjoy. I have to practice to play with Allie Moss. real life goes on.
- MartysBetter88

dont let one greedy russian get you down! this is a great sport!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:58 PM ET
Please no. I'd rather just enter the rebuild anyway. Without Kovy our offense has no leader. No RFA available would have changed that. Good players, but they wouldn't put us back to where we were and we'd be an average team with no first round pick for 3 years. AKA: On track to become the flames. No need to make a bad situation worse.
- rmdevil313


I agree, just rebuild is probably the smart choice. You get perspective at that state of your franchise after a day like today.

Maybe try and absorb a bad contract or 2 with a team looking for cap relieft, gain an asset in that process (Philly/Rangers). Try and stock pile some more draft picks this way. Put your cap space cleared up to good use now.
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:59 PM ET
Cold War is officially over!

Players going to KHL where there is no socialist salary cap!

Tim Thomas is learning Russian.
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