Can someone please tell me why Girgensons can play in the AHL but Grigorenko can't. Aren't they the same age?
- jzabawaj

Something about how Grigorenkos rights are still owned by his QMJHL team, and they wont release him so he cant play in the AHL. So its either the Q or the NHL.

Can someone please tell me why Girgensons can play in the AHL but Grigorenko can't. Aren't they the same age?
- jzabawaj

I'm assuming because he played for the EJHL and USHL?

Something about how Grigorenkos rights are still owned by his QMJHL team, and they wont release him so he cant play in the AHL. So its either the Q or the NHL.
- Rally_Shots

Thanks

Can someone please tell me why Girgensons can play in the AHL but Grigorenko can't. Aren't they the same age?
- jzabawaj

The Canadian Hockey League (QMJHL, OHL, WHL) has a deal in place with the NHL that doesnt allow their players under 20 years old from playing in the AHL unless they are released by the junior team. This is so that the CHL doesnt get watered down from all its top talent.

Girgensons never played for any team in the CHL. He played in the USHL and was set to enter NCAA college team. There is no agreement between AHL and USHL, therefore he was allowed to go straight to the AHL.

College players are not allowed to have agents or sign a contract while they are playing NCAA hockey. Thats why typically, players who play their full 4 years will sign upon the end of their season, or in Ruhwedal's case, he left a year early.

I'll take door #3..
- Pairo11

Phoenix...

For those asking about notes on the prospects.

From yesterdays Morning session:


From yesterdays afternoon session:



Pulled these notes from someone else who was there and reporting on another forum.
- theblueandgold

makes everyone seem like an all-star in the making

makes everyone seem like an all-star in the making
- Homer

Wait, you're telling me everyone of our prospects aren't going to pan out and we're not gonna win the cup in the next two years? Say it isn't so!

makes everyone seem like an all-star in the making
- Homer

The AHL has all stars too.

Those numbers were not very good. Was it a usage thing? or was it struggling to adapt offensively?

Obviously a young kid and will have time to grow just wondering why specifically he struggled so much offensively last year? Obviously don't watch too many Rochester games.

makes everyone seem like an all-star in the making
- Homer

That and what the hell is the shinny

That and what the hell is the shinny
- robz228

I believe that's hockey lingo for scrimmage

Those numbers were not very good. Was it a usage thing? or was it struggling to adapt offensively?

Obviously a young kid and will have time to grow just wondering why specifically he struggled so much offensively last year? Obviously don't watch too many Rochester games.
- TheLeafsInsider

It was the fact that he was 18, and he suffered a severe concussion that kept him out about 30 games. Took awhile to get back playing at his usual hell-bent-for-leather style.

I think the kid's gonna stick this year.

I'd rather watch him at 100% effort every night, and end up with 12-15 than watch Stafford "JP Dumont" it all season.

makes everyone seem like an all-star in the making
- Homer

That's what we do in Buffalo

It was the fact that he was 18, and he suffered a severe concussion that kept him out about 30 games. Took awhile to get back playing at his usual hell-bent-for-leather style.

I think the kid's gonna stick this year.

I'd rather watch him at 100% effort every night, and end up with 12-15 than watch Stafford "JP Dumont" it all season.
- Powerslave

Yup.

working like a mad man over here. needed a break and come to find we have a team of all stars?!?!

working like a mad man over here. needed a break and come to find we have a team of all stars?!?!
- Beezer33

Well when you draft an all world player like Grigorenko what do you expect?

Well when you draft an all world player like Grigorenko what do you expect?
- bsabres716

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.
- Powerslave

16 Goals
28 Assists

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.
- Powerslave

15-20G
20-30A

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.
- Powerslave

7 goals 14 assists would be my bet

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.
- Powerslave

I see him as more of an assist guy until the rebuild really takes off so 10-12 Goals 25-30 Assists.

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.
- Powerslave

-12

7 goals 14 assists would be my bet
- Rally_Shots

I was trying to be a bit more optimistic than this, but this is fairly realistic.

Wait for it.... wait.... new blog is about to hit. Or, at least a new "Title", to keep one step ahead of Kevin!

Realistically, what kinds of numbers do we expect out of Grigs this year, in an 82-game season?

He really could be a wild card of sorts for us.
- Powerslave

Obligatory troll response:


154 goals
578 assists

LOLLERRRZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!