Interesting way of looking at it
- Vukota

Chances are if they slid the contract and he played full seasons this year and next, there likely would have been a marked improvement in his play, and consequently more negotiating leverage for he and his agent. This way, he plays one full pro season, will still be an RFA, and can get re-signed to a more manageable contract.

May not be a common practice, but it's kinda savvy.

Make him part of the deal for Vanek!!!


- jimmc7722

I know. Bailey is the ENEMY now. We must trade him!!!!!!

Probably so that when they aim to re-sign him after this season, which will be his first real one playing pro, he'll come at a significantly cheaper price than he would have if he had two full NHL seasons under his belt.
- eichiefs9

Wow. Nice way to find a strange silver lining. You've been an Islander fan for too long.

Chances are if they slid the contract and he played full seasons this year and next, there likely would have been a marked improvement in his play, and consequently more negotiating leverage for he and his agent. This way, he plays one full pro season, will still be an RFA, and can get re-signed to a more manageable contract.

May not be a common practice, but it's kinda savvy.
- eichiefs9

If it's reality? Business practices like these would have players lining up to play for us. Keep up the good work Snow. Everyone likes a schister. Especially Loooong Islanweders. It's amazing some of the shat that gets respect on this thread.

Wow. Nice way to find a strange silver lining. You've been an Islander fan for too long
- Cptmjl

I'm not sure there's much of a dark cloud in the first place to even warrant a silver lining. Maybe it was just part of the deal to get Lee to leave college and not do the loophole thing. Who knows? I'd guess Lee got some money he wouldn't have otherwise gotten if they'd rolled the contract over, and as Chief noted, maybe the Isles are in a favorable negotiating position when it's time to renew. Sounds like a win/win to me.

I'm not sure there's much of a dark cloud in the first place to even warrant a silver lining. Maybe it was just part of the deal to get Lee to leave college and not do the loophole thing. Who knows? I'd guess Lee got some money he wouldn't have otherwise gotten if they'd rolled the contract over, and as Chief noted, maybe the Isles are in a favorable negotiating position when it's time to renew. Sounds like a win/win to me.
- UIF

When referring to this particular thing or in general? If you're referring to in general then...

If it's reality? Business practices like these would have players lining up to play for us. Keep up the good work Snow. Everyone likes a schister. Especially Loooong Islanweders.
- Cptmjl

Well considering you can only slide years of an ELC, they won't have much of a choice

When referring to this particular thing or in general? If you're referring to in general then...
- Cptmjl

To the Lee/contract thing. In general the Islanders are like Florida weather...clear and sunny one minute; torrential downpour the next.

If it's reality? Business practices like these would have players lining up to play for us. Keep up the good work Snow. Everyone likes a schister. Especially Loooong Islanweders. It's amazing some of the shat that gets respect on this thread.
- Cptmjl

You mean to tell me you would think college players would complain about getting paid a years salary for playing 2 games and not want to sign here??

To the Lee/contract thing. In general the Islanders are like Florida weather...clear and sunny one minute; torrential downpour the next.
- UIF

Excellent

Well considering you can only slide years of an ELC, they won't have much of a choice
- eichiefs9

Yeah, when it comes to players who come up through the draft. Correct. Only a matter of time till the rest of the OHL, and AHL players and they're agents realize where they can make money and where they'll get the shaft. The rest of the NHL already figured it out hence why we are considered a premier destination for FA's. Come here and get swindled.

You mean to tell me you would think college players would complain about getting paid a years salary for playing 2 games and not want to sign here??
- Vukota

"Hey, Anders, thanks for the two points. Here's a sh!t-ton of money!"

You mean to tell me you would think college players would complain about getting paid a years salary for playing 2 games and not want to sign here??
- Vukota

In retrospect, yeah. To get screwed at a later contract? I honestly don't think that's the intent but to call it a good business model is stupid. Just ask any player. If they see something in the kid then play it out. Stupid debate to begin with bcs if there were ever speculation this would be it.

You mean to tell me you would think college players would complain about getting paid a years salary for playing 2 games and not want to sign here??
- Vukota

Yep, that was my thinking. He probably got to put some money in his pocket sooner rather than later because of this. That might have been a factor in getting him to leave college and sign.

"Hey, Anders, thanks for the two points. Here's a sh!t-ton of money!"
- eichiefs9

and when you get NHL ready we are going to turn the screws bcs that's your theory is it not? Lets not get away from the point here.

In retrospect, yeah. To get screwed at a later contract? I honestly don't think that's the intent but to call it a good business model is stupid. Just ask any player. If they see something in the kid then play it out. Stupid debate to begin with bcs if there were ever speculation this would be it.
- Cptmjl

He just got paid a million dollars to play two facking games!! Stop it

In retrospect, yeah. To get screwed at a later contract? I honestly don't think that's the intent but to call it a good business model is stupid. Just ask any player. If they see something in the kid then play it out. Stupid debate to begin with bcs if there were ever speculation this would be it.
- Cptmjl

Jokes aside, I can't really think of any other reason they wouldn't have slid this year? Can you? I'm being genuine, I haven't the slightest inkling of another reason to do that.

Jokes aside, I can't really think of any other reason they wouldn't have slid this year? Can you? I'm being genuine, I haven't the slightest inkling of another reason to do that.
- eichiefs9

Staple's article made it seem like he has to prove something this year to them in either the AHL or the NHL. Maybe they are not as high on him as originally thought? I can't see that being the case but you never know

He just got paid a million dollars to play two facking games!! Stop it
- Vukota

you're missing the original point or "theory". I don't need to stop anything, that's what I'm commenting on. Chief created an idea that the thought process was to get a cheaper contract after his ELC once it's over. If the kid earns it then give him what he deserves. Again, doubt this is the case was probably just more stupidity being twisted into something thought provoking by fans. If that's the thought process I don't think that's complimentary. Sorry, I'll disagree with you again.

and when you get NHL ready we are going to turn the screws bcs that's your theory is it not? Lets not get away from the point here.
- Cptmjl

How much do you think they are really gonna save? He is not an elite player. He'll get a 3 yr deal for like 2.5 million instead of a 3 year deal for 3.5? Then factor in the free year's salary and its a wash. Stop with the dramatics

Jokes aside, I can't really think of any other reason they wouldn't have slid this year? Can you? I'm being genuine, I haven't the slightest inkling of another reason to do that.
- eichiefs9

I can't off the top of my head honestly and kudos to you for coming up with that. If that's the case then they must be sold on him being something really good so they can screw him at a later date

you're missing the original point or "theory". I don't need to stop anything, that's what I'm commenting on. Chief created an idea that the thought process was to get a cheaper contract after his ELC once it's over. If the kid earns it then give him what he deserves. Again, doubt this is the case was probably just more stupidity being twisted into something thought provoking by fans. If that's the thought process I don't think that's complimentary. Sorry, I'll disagree with you again.
- Cptmjl

That's good. Some think we are too chummy on here BTW- I'm right

How much do you think they are really gonna save? He is not an elite player. He'll get a 3 yr deal for like 2.5 million instead of a 3 year deal for 3.5? Then factor in the free year's salary and its a wash. Stop with the dramatics
- Vukota

Not being dramatic. Simmer down. I commented on a post and gave my opinion. If that's the case that's something I don't agree with.

Not being dramatic. Simmer down. I commented on a post and gave my opinion. If that's the case that's something I don't agree with.
- Cptmjl

Whoooa!! Are we fighting?

Garth should have traded Bailey to St. Louis for David Perron. He probably would have had to give up a pick because Perron is probably better.
- kear20

You make it sound like its so easy. Parjvii upside is 5x better than Baileys. Why would The blues take him? They were looking for speed which bailey doesn't have compared to pqrvkii