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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 6:09 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown

I don't actually have any rubles
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 6:11 PM ET
Olli's contract 2 way in 1st yr, 1 way 2nd year
so i believe we can send him down this yr w/o him going through waivers, next yr we cant.
not 100% sure on that though.

- FLYERSROCK!

I guess that means Olli's in our lineup next year.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:15 PM ET
I guess that means Olli's in our lineup next year.
- JAKEw1234

ollie - morin
3rd pairing
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 6:16 PM ET
ollie - morin
3rd pairing

- Crimsoninja

I thought we were rushing Morin,
1st pairing Hagg-Morin this year. I'm callin it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
Olli's contract 2 way in 1st yr, 1 way 2nd year
so i believe we can send him down this yr w/o him going through waivers, next yr we cant.
not 100% sure on that though.

- FLYERSROCK!


Again, waivers has nothing to do with one way or two way contract. It has to do with how a player is paid. A 2 way contract has one salary for the player in the Minor Leagues, and a salary if the player is in the NHL. A one way deal, the player get's paid the same regardless of where he plays. Waivers is based on when the player signed his first contract, and games played.

This is basically the same deal that they sign Bourdon to. I'm not crazy about it, because it means that Lauridsen has to be carried on the off season Cap next off season.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 10 @ 6:20 PM ET
I don't actually have any rubles
- JAKEw1234

S'ok, don't got a way ta spend 'em.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:20 PM ET
I guess that means Olli's in our lineup next year.
- JAKEw1234


Not necessarily. But there's a very good chance based on this contract, and his future waiver status.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 10 @ 6:24 PM ET
I guess that means Olli's in our Shelley suite next year.
- JAKEw1234
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 10 @ 6:25 PM ET
FlyersGoalScoredBy ‏@FlyGoalScoredBy 2h

Rumor that the Flyers are very close to a Bobby Ryan deal with Ottawa is completely TRUE.

- FLYERSROCK!

I'm sure this has been stated but why the hell would Ottawa trade him days after trading for him? Just trade coots for subban and call it an off season already.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:32 PM ET
wait we're getting ryan now?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:33 PM ET
lol damn JAKE i owe you an apology. i thought you were out of it but it was actually me who was.

i had no idea Perron was traded for Paajarvi today
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:36 PM ET
lol damn JAKE i owe you an apology. i thought you were out of it but it was actually me who was.

i had no idea Perron was traded for Paajarvi today

- Crimsoninja


Just wait until the Ryan to the Flyers trade is announced.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
Just wait until the Ryan to the Flyers trade is announced.
- MJL

I've got to admit I dont see Ryan staying in OTT long term. Big mistake on their part to pay that price without a contract extension being agreed upon.

With almost every big market team involved in Ryan rumors the last two years he'd be crazy not to test the market going into the prime of his career.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:55 PM ET
I've got to admit I dont see Ryan staying in OTT long term. Big mistake on their part to pay that price without a contract extension being agreed upon.

With the almost every big market team involved in Ryan rumors the last two years he'd be crazy not to test the market going into the prime of his career.

- hereticpride


Actually, you can't call it a mistake. You cannot sign a player to a contract extension until he is in the last year of his contract. That won't be the case for Ryan until next July 1. Then Ryan will be eligible to sign an extension with Ottawa.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 7:00 PM ET
Actually, you can't call it a mistake. You cannot sign a player to a contract extension until he is in the last year of his contract. That won't be the case for Ryan until next July 1. Then Ryan will be eligible to sign an extension with Ottawa.
- MJL

Wow, didnt know that. That's a strange rule.

Still, the point remains I beilve there is a strong chance he tests the market in two years and gets absolutely ridiculous contract offers. I dont like the trade for OTT.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 7:01 PM ET
lol damn JAKE i owe you an apology. i thought you were out of it but it was actually me who was.

i had no idea Perron was traded for Paajarvi today

- Crimsoninja

Knew I wasn't crazy
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 7:02 PM ET
Wow, didnt know that. That's a strange rule.

Still, the point remains I beilve there isa strong chance he tests the market in two years and gets absolutely ridiculous contract offers. I dont like the trade for OTT.

- hereticpride

And then he comes to us for way less
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
Wow, didnt know that. That's a strange rule.

Still, the point remains I beilve there isa strong chance he tests the market in two years and gets absolutely ridiculous contract offers. I dont like the trade for OTT.

- hereticpride


Well obviously, Ottawa is going to have to pony up at some point, and see what happens. If Ryan leaves for Free Agency, then yea it's a bad move for them. Have to wait and see.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 7:04 PM ET
Well obviously, Ottawa is going to have to pony up at some point, and see what happens. If Ryan leaves for Free Agency, then yea it's a bad move for them. Have to wait and see.
- MJL


We shall see their owner has several businesses losing money & is in the process for a divorce..........Not sure how it all plays a role but money "could' be an issue.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jul 10 @ 7:46 PM ET
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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 7:52 PM ET
My new least favorite writer:
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...hero-today-132011823.html
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 8:03 PM ET
421
- wilsonecho91


821?
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Jul 10 @ 8:03 PM ET
My new least favorite writer:
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...hero-today-132011823.html

- JAKEw1234



(Frank) that guy. How dare he A) Support Bieber and B) Call himself a hockey fan while making fun of an old hockey tradition!?
pinto
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jul 10 @ 8:05 PM ET
So how does arbitration work? Just saw that there is a slew of guys that filed today.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
So how does arbitration work? Just saw that there is a slew of guys that filed today.
- pinto

Essentially a player files for arbitration, and makes his case with things like his performance, his leadership abilities, his value to the team, etc., as to why he thinks he deserves to be paid X amount to a neutral party. Then the third party takes everything into account and sets the players salary to a set amount that the team has no control over, and they have to deal with it.
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