Wasn't Stevens like 6'0" 210 pounds? He did a lot of damage for a guy who wasn't overly big.
- PLindbergh31

hockeydb.com lists him at six-feet, 200. He knew how to throw a check, though.

Schenn and Streit has the potential to be a disaster. Schenn likes to hit, and can get caught out of position when he tries to lay a hit. Coburn is the ideal partner for Streit, because he is responsible defensively and he's also the most mobile of the "defensive" defensemen, so he can recover more quickly than Schenn or Grossmann is Streit gets caught.

I'd go:

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustafsson

To me, that gives you the most logical pairs, gives a good puck mover on each, and a solid stay at home guy. It also gives at least one guy with good mobility on each pair.
- Jsaquella

Good points. Well said.

Agreed. Those pairings make the most sense. Good balance of offense/stay at home type mix.
- PLindbergh31

I just worry about Streit being the only guy back if Schenn misses the hit at the blueline

Schenn and Streit has the potential to be a disaster. Schenn likes to hit, and can get caught out of position when he tries to lay a hit. Coburn is the ideal partner for Streit, because he is responsible defensively and he's also the most mobile of the "defensive" defensemen, so he can recover more quickly than Schenn or Grossmann is Streit gets caught.

I'd go:

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustafsson

To me, that gives you the most logical pairs, gives a good puck mover on each, and a solid stay at home guy. It also gives at least one guy with good mobility on each pair.
- Jsaquella

if i was making the decisions for the orange and black, id go with this as well as a start and take it from there. can always adjust as need be to meet specific game situations

Who would you choose between Jagr or Gags for this team next year if they can at the same yrs/cap hit (I know that isn't realistic)?
- coffee junkie

If I had to choose, Gagne. But I'd rather pass on both of them at this point.

hockeydb.com lists him at six-feet, 200. He knew how to throw a check, though.
- tangent_man

NHL.com and Hockeyreference.com list him at 6'2" 215. I'm going with them.

Other then the concussion, he hasn't had any other significant injuries here. Players can recover from concussions. Let's think positive.
- MJL

He missed games due to a knee injury as well. Has nothing to do with being positive/negative. It's about being realistic. He was having vision/balance issues and was sent to the same concussion specialist that Pronger saw. Once you have a concussion history the probability that more will follow is a factor. Coupled with the type of style Grossmann plays the concern is legit.

here are some notes from Monday.

http://www.sportsology.in...lyers-Prospect-Camp-Notes
- aightwebang17

Thanks

NHL.com and Hockeyreference.com list him at 6'2" 215. I'm going with them.
- Jsaquella

Fine. Thanks for looking at the real sites for me.

I just worry about Streit being the only guy back if Schenn misses the hit at the blueline
- Jsaquella

Well yeah. That could be an issue. Schenn likes to gamble at times. With experience I think he will be better at picking his spots.

He missed games due to a knee injury as well. Has nothing to do with being positive/negative. It's about being realistic. He was having vision/balance issues and was sent to the same concussion specialist that Pronger saw. Once you have a concussion history the probability that more will follow is a factor. Coupled with the type of style Grossmann plays the concern is legit.
- PLindbergh31

If Grossmann does get hurt, I think Lauridsen can fill in. Obviously not at the same level, but he can handle being a 3rd pair stay at home guy.

I have more worries if they count on Meszaros to be in the top six, because he can be utilized in more roles.

He missed games due to a knee injury as well. Has nothing to do with being positive/negative. It's about being realistic. He was having vision/balance issues and was sent to the same concussion specialist that Pronger saw. Once you have a concussion history the probability that more will follow is a factor. Coupled with the type of style Grossmann plays the concern is legit.
- PLindbergh31

He was cleared though. I do agree its a concern once you've had a concussion. Much easier to get another one.

id be lying if i said i had a solid 8 in my mind already, even if i did im sure it would change repeatedly between now and then. not to state the obvious too much, but with so much talent around i think it will largely be decided by which teams can avoid the injury bug and stay consistently healthy.

not to sound like im putting down other teams, but i do think there may be some changes from last year. i know they had a good record last year, but right now montreal doesnt really scare me as they are constructed. some good young pieces, but i could see them falling out. eventually detroit has to slow down, but theyve been proving people wrong for years. i thought last year was the year, but they made me eat crow. i wont bet against them until i see it. i think the isles may be staking their claim to being regular contenders for the post season. the devils are another team you are typically not wise to bet against, but their roster doesnt wow me either. i think ottawa takes a step forwar this year as well. love the ryan move, and i dont think theyll miss alfie on the ice as much as some would think
- stayinthefnnet

My predicted Playoff teams:
NE:
Boston
Detroit
Montreal


East:
Pittsburg
NY Rangers
Flyers

WC: Washington, Ottawa

NW:
LA
San Jose
Vancouver

Central:
Chicago
St. Louis
Minnesota

WC: Nashville, Edmonton

Fine. Thanks for looking at the real sites for me.
- tangent_man

I usually use Hockeyreference.com because they have more stats and other info than Hockeydb

Did you guys lose internet today? We had an outage here & I was wondering if the P'ville system got caught in it

I usually use Hockeyreference.com because they have more stats and other info than Hockeydb

Did you guys lose internet today? We had an outage here & I was wondering if the P'ville system got caught in it
- Jsaquella

Nope, all good here.

Schenn and Streit has the potential to be a disaster. Schenn likes to hit, and can get caught out of position when he tries to lay a hit. Coburn is the ideal partner for Streit, because he is responsible defensively and he's also the most mobile of the "defensive" defensemen, so he can recover more quickly than Schenn or Grossmann is Streit gets caught.

I'd go:

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustafsson

To me, that gives you the most logical pairs, gives a good puck mover on each, and a solid stay at home guy. It also gives at least one guy with good mobility on each pair.
- Jsaquella

+1

Per David Perron's twitter feed, he's been traded to Edmonton...that clears room for Pietrangelo

Wasn't Stevens like 6'0" 210 pounds? He did a lot of damage for a guy who wasn't overly big.
- PLindbergh31

Luke Schenn's 6'2 and he's the biggest hitter among all defenseman in the league. If Zac Rinaldo had played all 48 games and continued on his hits per game pace, he's be 2nd in the league in hits, and he's 5'11 and only gets about 8 minutes of TOI per game

My predicted Playoff teams:
NE:
Boston
Detroit
Montreal


East:
Pittsburg
NY Rangers
Flyers

WC: Washington, Ottawa

NW:
LA
San Jose
Vancouver

Central:
Chicago
St. Louis
Minnesota

WC: Nashville, Edmonton
- youarewrong

No MTL, no Vancouver and maybe NYR. Just my opinion.

Nope, all good here.
- tangent_man

Bastard.

I took a half day and had to run Guacapoopie to the doctor for her alergies...figured a lil porn before taking her up and it was denied.

If Grossmann does get hurt, I think Lauridsen can fill in. Obviously not at the same level, but he can handle being a 3rd pair stay at home guy.

I have more worries if they count on Meszaros to be in the top six, because he can be utilized in more roles.
- Jsaquella

Lauridsen showed some promise, obviously he wouldn't be the player Grossmann would be, but he might be able to provide similar qualities. He certainly wouldn't have to worry about replacing scoring or puck moving ability.

Meszaros I don't believe will be here when Camp opens, but if he is he would be an enormous question mark.

Per David Perron's twitter feed, he's been traded to Edmonton...that clears room for Pietrangelo
- Jsaquella

Why would Edmonton need a forward?

Schenn and Streit has the potential to be a disaster. Schenn likes to hit, and can get caught out of position when he tries to lay a hit. Coburn is the ideal partner for Streit, because he is responsible defensively and he's also the most mobile of the "defensive" defensemen, so he can recover more quickly than Schenn or Grossmann is Streit gets caught.

I'd go:

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustafsson

To me, that gives you the most logical pairs, gives a good puck mover on each, and a solid stay at home guy. It also gives at least one guy with good mobility on each pair.
- Jsaquella

Per David Perron's twitter feed, he's been traded to Edmonton...that clears room for Pietrangelo
- Jsaquella

What did they get in return?

Why would Edmonton need a forward?
- JAKEw1234

Because they need a veteran up front, too many kids.