Stepan plays an integral role with the Rangers. Seguin was used as a third line center at times.

Stepan would be considered an untouchable on the Rangers.
- TimBits

Youre right, he will be costly if they ever did entertain moving him but I dont feel that anyone is "untouchable" nowadays.

Brassard is not a complete player and most of all not a winner. for those who think he's the answer. Grabo same thing. You have to be realistic flame fans, its a 5 year plus rebuild. build your team through the draft, why talk about guys who still keep you out of playoffs but may keep you out of top 5 in draft
- kovey27

Since watching him in a Ranger's uni guy is better than I thought before the trade. He's got plenty of skill and can really pass and isn't a liability on defense. He is good and a low end #2 but I am fine with him in that role. But guy is still young and in this setting can get better.

The avs will take stralman off your hands if you want cap relief
- DDM-Coga

At $1.7M the guy is a steal. He was very underrated and was really really good for us last year so it doesn't make sense to move him. Guys being discussed are Boyle (Actually has value IMO). And Pyatt. My god I'll drive Pyatt to any city myself for a bag of pucks. And not signing Zucc back. Other than that no "cap" type trades are being discussed.

Since watching him in a Ranger's uni guy is better than I thought before the trade. He's got plenty of skill and can really pass and isn't a liability on defense. He is good and a low end #2 but I am fine with him in that role. But guy is still young and in this setting can get better.
- mrhattrick27

If he steps up this season, he will be the reason for sure you buy out Richards. Not a bad young 1-2 punch with him and Stephan

Stepan would be a dream but right now it's just a pipe dream.....and given the fact that the Flames held off from spending during free agency I don't think they would go after Richards either. That being said, moving a guy like Brassard would give the Rangers the relief they need. Brassard is also someone who is eerily similar to some of the other players Feaster has brought in recently. Youngish (25), fairly established, but maybe hasn't quite hit his ceiling (ie: Russell, Jones, Galiardi). I could see it happening.

Youre right, he will be costly if they ever did entertain moving him but I dont feel that anyone is "untouchable" nowadays.
- Colin Dambrauskas

True enough.

Athough the Rangers would need to receive more value in return. That's how highly they view him. Therefore, teams wouldn't want to give up that many assets.

My 2 cents.

If he steps up this season, he will be the reason for sure you buy out Richards. Not a bad young 1-2 punch with him and Stephan
- DDM-Coga

No, the New CBA means we will for sure buy out Richards Guy will be a goner next summer. I think they saw that they didn't NEED his $6M this summer (as the UFA class sucked and we could fit everyone as it is) so they just decided why not retain him for 1 year. I don't care what happens he should and will be bought out

No, the New CBA means we will for sure buy out Richards Guy will be a goner next summer. I think they saw that they didn't NEED his $6M this summer (as the UFA class sucked and we could fit everyone as it is) so they just decided why not retain him for 1 year. I don't care what happens he should and will be bought out
- mrhattrick27

Some say cap could increase by 10 million next season. If GMs went insane this summer, wait till next. Richards might actually get a raise. These GMs are foolish.

Stepan would be a dream but right now it's just a pipe dream.....and given the fact that the Flames held off from spending during free agency I don't think they would go after Richards either. That being said, moving a guy like Brassard would give the Rangers the relief they need. Brassard is also someone who is eerily similar to some of the other players Feaster has brought in recently. Youngish (25), fairly established, but maybe hasn't quite hit his ceiling (ie: Russell, Jones, Galiardi). I could see it happening.
- The-O-G

yea Brassard is probably the most realistic...Stepan is gonna cost too much to the point he's basically untouchable I bet
and Richards... not with that contract unless they're sweetening the pot for us with other assets and NYR's seem to have made it known they are okay keeping RIchards on board for now

Some say cap could increase by 10 million next season. If GMs went insane this summer, wait till next. Richards might actually get a raise. These GMs are foolish.
- TimBits

Yea I mean the thing others teams look at are his production last season. He woulda been a 60 point player in a 82 game season. But to watch him every game you know it just isn't there. Guy shoulda been put on the 4th line long before he was. Same with being scratched.

Richards .. Not a Chance to old for this rebuilding team.

Stepan ... Not Happening New York would not trade this kid now he is gonna be there for years.

Brassard .. I doubt New York moves him either, they just got him in the Gabby deal and he looked really good after the trade.

We dont anyone, we need to let the kids play and hope for top 5 - top 3 draft picks the next few years.

Yea I mean the thing others teams look at are his production last season. He woulda been a 60 point player in a 82 game season. But to watch him every game you know it just isn't there. Guy shoulda been put on the 4th line long before he was. Same with being scratched.
- mrhattrick27

Exactly. He just doesn't seem to fit with the younger core.

Atleast the Rangers have the depth. They can easily replace him.

Exactly. He just doesn't seem to fit with the younger core.

Atleast the Rangers have the depth. They can easily replace him.
- TimBits

Yea, Richards makes no sense for the Flames aside from how hot they were after him when he was a FA. He doesn't fit in NY either (Only top 9 forward over 30) and it will be weird rooting for him knowing he is a dead man walking

I have a nagging feeling you guys will sign Kyle Wellwood for a one year deal, just as temp solution

Richards .. Not a Chance to old for this rebuilding team.

Stepan ... Not Happening New York would not trade this kid now he is gonna be there for years.

Brassard .. I doubt New York moves him either, they just got him in the Gabby deal and he looked really good after the trade.

We dont anyone, we need to let the kids play and hope for top 5 - top 3 draft picks the next few years.
- DinoRondelly

Do we really want the kids to play and fail to the point where we end up with a top 3 pick every year for the next few years??? Crushing their confidence so early on in their careers is not the way to develop their talent.

Reagardless of the financial aspects of a deal, what kind of value can Calgary offer? I look at their assets, and aside from picks, the only players that stand out as big chips are Baertschi and Gaudreau, and I don't think the Flames want to move them.

Yea, Richards makes no sense for the Flames aside from how hot they were after him when he was a FA. He doesn't fit in NY either (Only top 9 forward over 30) and it will be weird rooting for him knowing he is a dead man walking
- mrhattrick27

Maybe he'll score an important goal in the playoffs next year (provided he plays). Even if he plays on the 4th line, if you can afford him, then why not.

I think Sather made the good decision for this year. Mind you, the system will also be very different. You might see a rejuvenated player.

Do we really want the kids to play and fail to the point where we end up with a top 3 pick every year for the next few years??? Crushing their confidence so early on in their careers is not the way to develop their talent.
- bastage

You crush their confidence if your sending them out there like they have to win now, they will need time to develop but there are still vets on this team that will shoulder most of the blame over the next few years.

This is how the system in the NHL works, they have tried the band aid solution of grabbing whoever whenever and trying to stay in the play off chase. The 2004 run was a fluke but the team brass took it as this team was right there and waited 3 years to long to trade Iggy.

This team needs to play out the bad years in order to finally have some decent ones.

Stepan and Stralman not going anywhere. If they wanted to move Richards, they likely would have just bought him out. Could see Boyle moving, but that may depend on how well Hagelin and Callahan are healing from their surgeries.

Do we really want the kids to play and fail to the point where we end up with a top 3 pick every year for the next few years??? Crushing their confidence so early on in their careers is not the way to develop their talent.
- bastage

Exactly....if this was a reason for holding off on acquiring a guy like Brassard then I would be pissed. If a rebuild takes 5 years he would be 30 and in his prime. Players his age are who we should be targeting (along with draft pics) when trading guys like Cammy, Glen X, Gio. (I know Feaster said they would never be dealt but he also wouldn't admit to a rebuild back then either).

You crush their confidence if your sending them out there like they have to win now, they will need time to develop but there are still vets on this team that will shoulder most of the blame over the next few years.

This is how the system in the NHL works, they have tried the band aid solution of grabbing whoever whenever and trying to stay in the play off chase. The 2004 run was a fluke but the team brass took it as this team was right there and waited 3 years to long to trade Iggy.

This team needs to play out the bad years in order to finally have some decent ones.
- DinoRondelly

I disagree. I know what you are trying to say but players who are 25 are not band-aid solutions. They will still be here in 5-10 years and will be in their prime, the future leaders of this team.

I disagree. I know what you are trying to say but players who are 25 are not band-aid solutions. They will still be here in 5-10 years and will be in their prime, the future leaders of this team.
- The-O-G

hmm a 27 year old Paul Stastny sounds like he fits into this category

hmm a 27 year old Paul Stastny sounds like he fits into this category
- DDM-Coga

He is probably about as old as I would want the Flames to go for, but in my opinion these are the types of players the Oilers lacked (and still lack) in their rebuild. We don't want old geezers on the team, but we need some younger established NHLers who can show the draft picks how to be pros.

I have a nagging feeling you guys will sign Kyle Wellwood for a one year deal, just as temp solution
- DDM-Coga

You take that back right now. Dont make me call in the refs!!

hmm a 27 year old Paul Stastny sounds like he fits into this category
- DDM-Coga

i'd be fine with statsny here.

cammy for statsny? or maybe hudler