James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 3m
Dan Cloutier was robbed. Won't be a first balloter.

tired of blowing every guy that wants to stay here.

if he wants to be here so bad, make it easy on the franchise and sign a value deal that's easy to swallow....( I teed this up for you laughs..)

I understand your point, but this is the obvious flip side to it
- hugefemale dog77

That's a fair point.

Last offer: No NTC for the first two years and pay the (frank) out of him

6.5, 6, 4, 4, 4

then we've got a chance to reevaluate as we get everyone off their ELCs

I don't doubt that. Just getting my shot in at guys that make poop up. Pretty sure with social media, that is just what a lot of rumors are these days. Stuff that gets made up and spreads like a virus, kinda like Christianity did back in 3rd or 4th century.
- ruttager17

So edgy

As we heard in the Horcoff interview, it's not like he didn't know what fans were saying about him. Think about how often his future here is talked about online and the radio.

Then you trade Gagner's two wonderkid buddies in Cogliano and Nilsson? I think it's very likely he knows exactly how stable he is in Edmonton. Which is not very right now.
- Morris

Seems to me he either gets overpaid or gets that NTC. Appears like you said that he knows what is going on and if he is going to be a pawn in the big game then he's going to have things his way.

I don't blame him. Would you give the team a discount only to be dealt a year later to yet a different bottom feeder?

So edgy
- Morris

Just a fact of studying the history of the Roman Empire from this time period.

Seems to me he either gets overpaid or gets that NTC. Appears like you said that he knows what is going on and if he is going to be a pawn in the big game then he's going to have things his way.

I don't blame him. Would you give the team a discount only to be dealt a year later to yet a different bottom feeder?
- Lahey

Yeah I don't think he's averse to giving the Oilers a hometown discount, he's moreso averse to giving the Florida Panthers an eventual discount.

Although as hugefemale dog points out, this raises a question: Why not sign for 4 million per and an NTC then?

Seems to me he either gets overpaid or gets that NTC. Appears like you said that he knows what is going on and if he is going to be a pawn in the big game then he's going to have things his way.

I don't blame him. Would you give the team a discount only to be dealt a year later to yet a different bottom feeder?
- Lahey

ud fight for everything u could get. and that's fair.
from managements perspective though, I don't think id give it to him

as you said, he's just a pawn. and that's how it should be when building a team

Yeah I don't think he's averse to giving the Oilers a hometown discount, he's moreso averse to giving the Florida Panthers an eventual discount.

Although as hugefemale dog points out, this raises a question: Why not sign for 4 million per and an NTC then?
- Morris

I have no idea what is on the table to say one way or another.

Just a fact of studying the history of the Roman Empire from this time period.
- ruttager17

yeah some good marketing for that group back in the day. They could use some of that now.


Or you know, stop turning a blind eye to molestation.

yeah some good marketing for that group back in the day. They could use some of that now.


Or you know, stop turning a blind eye to molestation.
- Morris

Marketing. I like what you did there sir.

I have no idea what is on the table to say one way or another.
- Lahey

yeah, I'm truly talking out of my ass as well.

I hope it works out frankly, as this season is a write-off if we lose another centre.

People saying we don't have enough "meat" or a bruiser on the back end. If we don't bring back Fistric what about Mark Fraser? He was brought back into the league by eakins, similar to Orr. I think he'd be a decent 5/6/7 guy who would bring toughness that can play

I have no idea what is on the table to say one way or another.
- Lahey

all guess work.

id say he's asking 5@5. really no idea about the NTC. not even sure where that started

I see Cloutier's twitter account is on fire today.... He seems to have allot of inside information.

We're so lucky that he blogs for the Oilers on hockeybuzz.

People saying we don't have enough "meat" or a bruiser on the back end. If we don't bring back Fistric what about Mark Fraser? He was brought back into the league by eakins, similar to Orr. I think he'd be a decent 5/6/7 guy who would bring toughness that can play
- Killbot460

thought Carlyle was a pretty big fan of his

thought Carlyle was a pretty big fan of his
- hugefemale dog77

i heard he is going to arbritation or something

I see Cloutier's twitter account is on fire today.... He seems to have allot of inside information.

We're so lucky that he blogs for the Oilers on hockeybuzz.
- Reveen

Ive been meaning to unfollow him. Cant though because some people who follow him actually seem to believe he knows stuff. Its fascinating.

Ive been meaning to unfollow him. Cant though because some people who follow him actually seem to believe he knows stuff. Its fascinating.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Ive been meaning to unfollow him. Cant though because some people who follow him actually seem to believe he knows stuff. Its fascinating.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

He's like a rallying point for the downtrodden whose controversial opinions on the oilers make them no fun to talk to at parties.

People saying we don't have enough "meat" or a bruiser on the back end. If we don't bring back Fistric what about Mark Fraser? He was brought back into the league by eakins, similar to Orr. I think he'd be a decent 5/6/7 guy who would bring toughness that can play
- Killbot460

Stay the eff away.

Edit: However you are very welcome to taking John Michael Liles.

Ive been meaning to unfollow him. Cant though because some people who follow him actually seem to believe he knows stuff. Its fascinating.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

His duck-face picture makes me want to kill kittens....

He's like a rallying point for the downtrodden whose controversial opinions on the oilers make them no fun to talk to at parties.
- Morris

i heard he is going to arbritation or something
- Killbot460

Filed for arb like Gagner is going to. They can make a deal up until the arbitration date.

It's the player equivalent of tendering contracts.qualifying offers.

I don't doubt that. Just getting my shot in at guys that make poop up. Pretty sure with social media, that is just what a lot of rumors are these days. Stuff that gets made up and spreads like a virus, kinda like Christianity did back in 3rd or 4th century.
- ruttager17

Filed for arb like Gagner is going to. They can make a deal up until the arbitration date.

It's the player equivalent of tendering contracts.qualifying offers.
- Morris

Since they have yet to come up with an extension I was wonder if it would be possible to get him