I bet you MacT's offering Sammy 4.5-4.75 n Gags ain't bitin. Arbitration'd be the worst thing. One year of Gags before youngest UFA in league history. I bet he gets 1 year at 4.8-5ish if he hits arbitration.

and some of you said nothing over 4.25

ud fight for half a million dollars
- hugefemale dog77

if it meant getting traded?

5 years, 24 million, NMC. There you go fellas, not that hard!
- Morris

I think the NMC is a big factor. Gags wants to stay n MacT sees him as expendable IMO

Absolutely. It already has for me. From a fans perspective, you obviously don't wanna play here too bad when you're already making 4M a year. Yet you sit here and drag everyone through arbitration so you can get your 500Gs. Kinda selfish.

I think he wants a no trade/movement clause because he's tired of all the trade rumours haha. If I were management I'd tell him you get a consistent salary when you start playing consistently haha.
- mbxiphos1527

he's been pretty consistent over the past 6 years speaking of a point total perspective.

I think the NMC is a big factor. Gags wants to stay n MacT sees him as expendable IMO
- TheNugeIsHuge

I completely agree with that one...

I bet you MacT's offering Sammy 4.5-4.75 n Gags ain't bitin. Arbitration'd be the worst thing. One year of Gags before youngest UFA in league history. I bet he gets 1 year at 4.8-5ish if he hits arbitration.

and some of you said nothing over 4.25
- TheNugeIsHuge

yeah, that's a no-no. i wouldn't let him be ufa so soon and then bails. would a ntc/nmc really hurt edm?

I think the NMC is a big factor. Gags wants to stay n MacT sees him as expendable IMO
- TheNugeIsHuge

I don't know if he sees him as expendable right now, but I think MacT wants that flexibility to eventually bring in a big #2.

yeah, that's a no-no. i wouldn't let him be ufa so soon and then bails. would a ntc/nmc really hurt edm?
- deks1

I'd take a ntc before i let him walk at 24/25.

I don't know if he sees him as expendable right now, but I think MacT wants that flexibility to eventually bring in a big #2.
- Lahey

that's what I meant, but not necessarily a big #2 just one with a better rounded game

if it meant getting traded?
- saskoil21

yeah. he wants what he feels he's worth I suppose. and he'll fight for every penny.
as would any of us.

just cause most of us cant understand the scale of dollars they're dealing with, doesn't really change the fact that it's basically the same thing.

gags had a great year for the most part and is still improving. and he proved a lot to me this year. but ive never been fully on his bandwagon. it has less to do with who he is as a player, but more the type of players we have surrounding him and what I perceive would be the most beneficial for them/team.

if he asks for too much, or is firm on a NMC, I would really try and pull the trigger on a deal

Ya into a mediocre shut down d-man. Drafting one in the top10 too risky.
- nanook82

yeah you really havent watched him much.

yeah, that's a no-no. i wouldn't let him be ufa so soon and then bails. would a ntc/nmc really hurt edm?
- deks1

in his case, I think for sure it would.

out of our current top 6 (not counting empty 2LW), he's the weakest or the player with least potential without a doubt id say.
and he's gonna make himself even tougher to move? not to mention the only one with a NTC?

In that video of development camp- looks like MacT hit a few road blocks- indicating he may not have many other options then also indicating the 'new' factor to making or not making deals... If this is the case he sure as (frank) better look to sign 1 or 2 more UFAs...

Practically speaking, a NMC just means MacT can't make opportunistic deals to move Gagner. Lots of guys with NTCs choose to waive when the team decides the have to move on. Not many players want to stick around long after the GMs and Coaches don't want them.

in his case, I think for sure it would.

out of our current top 6 (not counting empty 2LW), he's the weakest or the player with least potential without a doubt id say.
and he's gonna make himself even tougher to move? not to mention the only one with a NTC?
- hugefemale dog77

I'd say that's probably why he wants the NTC.

If he signs as a reasonable contract without a NTC, he's without question the most moveable asset in the entire organization. He doesn't want to be moved, and he's probably fed up that as a 23 year old he's endured 3 years of trade speculation already.

Tough to say whether between a bigger deal and a NTC what the best course of action in. But being that we've seen tons of players move their NTCs, I don't think it really shackles us to him if we decide we absolutely need to part ways.

5 years, 23-24 million , NTC listing 10 teams or something like that.

Very informative. Thank you. I just picture the south park episode when I think of jersey
- Ihatebrianburke

Snookie wants smoosh-smoosh

I'd say that's probably why he wants the NTC.

If he signs as a reasonable contract without a NTC, he's without question the most moveable asset in the entire organization. He doesn't want to be moved, and he's probably fed up that as a 23 year old he's endured 3 years of trade speculation already.

Tough to say whether between a bigger deal and a NTC what the best course of action in. But being that we've seen tons of players move their NTCs, I don't think it really shackles us to him if we decide we absolutely need to part ways.

5 years, 23-24 million , NTC listing 10 teams or something like that.
- Morris

This is all well and good, but can we really call all the crap that Clout's and Ek has made up about Gagner getting moved these past couple years, anything for him to be concerned about???

I'd say that's probably why he wants the NTC.

If he signs as a reasonable contract without a NTC, he's without question the most moveable asset in the entire organization. He doesn't want to be moved, and he's probably fed up that as a 23 year old he's endured 3 years of trade speculation already.

Tough to say whether between a bigger deal and a NTC what the best course of action in. But being that we've seen tons of players move their NTCs, I don't think it really shackles us to him if we decide we absolutely need to part ways.

5 years, 23-24 million , NTC listing 10 teams or something like that.
- Morris

maybe he really wants to be here and having a ntc, he can object everytime mact wants to trade him. the guy wants to be here and that's a good thing.

I'd say that's probably why he wants the NTC.

If he signs as a reasonable contract without a NTC, he's without question the most moveable asset in the entire organization. He doesn't want to be moved, and he's probably fed up that as a 23 year old he's endured 3 years of trade speculation already.

Tough to say whether between a bigger deal and a NTC what the best course of action in. But being that we've seen tons of players move their NTCs, I don't think it really shackles us to him if we decide we absolutely need to part ways.

5 years, 23-24 million , NTC listing 10 teams or something like that.
- Morris

for sure I can understand the logic behind why he wants one.

but I see what some comparable and better fits (imo) have signed for off their rfa status and I'm not sure i could justify giving that kind of term and dollars along with a NTC.

ten teams or not, he's not the caliber of player id want dictating terms or making it even tougher to move

Mochoson this one is for you...


- saskoil21

This is all well and good, but can we really call all the crap that Clout's and Ek has made up about Gagner getting moved these past couple years, anything for him to be concerned about???
- ruttager17

think it was confirmed he was offered fro yandle last year etc.

if I had to guess, im sure he's been offered around alot. especially before this year.

The concept of inflation is lost on you it appears.
- Leafs43

40% for inflation to average $7 million. I don't think so

maybe he really wants to be here and having a ntc, he can object everytime mact wants to trade him. the guy wants to be here and that's a good thing.
- deks1

tired of blowing every guy that wants to stay here.

if he wants to be here so bad, make it easy on the franchise and sign a value deal that's easy to swallow....( I teed this up for you laughs..)

I understand your point, but this is the obvious flip side to it

think it was confirmed he was offered fro yandle last year etc.

if I had to guess, im sure he's been offered around alot. especially before this year.
- hugefemale dog77

As we heard in the Horcoff interview, it's not like he didn't know what fans were saying about him. Think about how often his future here is talked about online and the radio.

Then you trade Gagner's two wonderkid buddies in Cogliano and Nilsson? I think it's very likely he knows exactly how stable he is in Edmonton. Which is not very right now.

think it was confirmed he was offered fro yandle last year etc.

if I had to guess, im sure he's been offered around alot. especially before this year.
- hugefemale dog77

I don't doubt that. Just getting my shot in at guys that make poop up. Pretty sure with social media, that is just what a lot of rumors are these days. Stuff that gets made up and spreads like a virus, kinda like Christianity did back in 3rd or 4th century.