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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
Nichuskin hasn't played a game in the NHL and he is on your First line. hahahahaha

Good one buddy

- Heavyd17


Hahahahahah I know good one (frank) me right buddy guy pal man YAYAYAYAYA hahaha lolololol lawlz DFSODFMWEN KNGSKFGNFDGNJKFNG

deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
I'm very well aware of when he started, I'm the one that sent you his career earnings you (frank)ing retard. Learn to read, I said it's as far back as NHL.com stats go for TOI.

Like I said, apply inflation and than get back to me, since your so good at math.

The fact I'm even having a conversation about whether the best players in the world should make over 7+ million dollars annually with someone who can't even read is beyond asinine.

- mochoson


deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
I was wrong.

Say it with me.

I was wrong.

Everybody gets things wrong, its the people who cant admit when they are wrong who are infuriating.

- Leafs43


yup...
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
I almosts think Daniel Cleary is THE best option remaining for us in FA.

He's not a top 6er in terms of offense, but he's a quality defender and physical presence. That's the kind of complimentary player we need.

His deal seems to be snagged with the Red Wings, I hope MacT is pressing on it.

- Morris


I'd love to have that goofy Newfie on the Oilers again, but I can't see him leaving the Wings. We'll see though
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
Very, very common misconception of the state of New Jersey. I cannot explain to you how annoying it is that the entire country think's the entire state is like one big episode of Jersey shore. Far from it.

New Jersey should be two completely different states. South Jersey might as well be apart of Philadelhphia. NOBODY down here likes the Devils, to give you an idea from a hockey stand point. It's lots of really nice suburbs built up over time, and a large section of South Jersey is to pricey for 90% of the country to even live in. NJ overall is one of the most expensive states in the US.

Go up north? Its the boondocks, than Newark (Devils). Completely different culture and kind of people, seriously. This is where you'll see more of the trashy Jersey accents and what not.

There was actually a movement to try and get the state separated, if I'm not mistaken. They wanted to make Philadelphia it's own state and include South Jersey, leaving Pennsylvania (minus Philadelphia) and New Jersey (minus South Jersey). THATS how different it is. I don't know how far it got or if it's even still going on, but it's been discussed.

- mochoson

Very informative. Thank you. I just picture the south park episode when I think of jersey
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
I was wrong.

Say it with me.

I was wrong.

Everybody gets things wrong, its the people who cant admit when they are wrong who are infuriating.

- Leafs43


No you weren't wrong.

My man only looked his salary up on capgeek, there records only go back to like, 06-07. He made more than 6 million like 9 years of his 21 and definitely averaged over 7 his entire career if you account for inflation.

Math is fun.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
Very informative. Thank you. I just picture the south park episode when I think of jersey
- Ihatebrianburke




Insanely funny episode.....not so great for my image as a Jersey resident though



edit: But seriously, it's like night and day here. Half the people living in South Jersey have super thick, italian-style, South Philadelphia accents. A lot of business owners in Philadelphia and parts of Pennsylvania live in New Jersey
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
Because for the third time now, 97-98 is as far back as NHL.com stats go for TOI.

Which is irrelevant since you wanna mention he had 60 points his rookie year. Fine. Apply for inflation. Go ahead. Get back to me and tell me if his career earnings averages more than 7mill per.

- mochoson



You don't know how to use the internet or the do math I see
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
Severely doubt we put Horcoff on the 4th line.

Whitney-Benn-Nichuskin
Peverley-Seguin-Cole
Eakins-Horcoff-Chiasson
Roussel-Fiddler-Garbutt/Macdermid

- mochoson


Benn isn't playing center. He's not a center. He's going back to LW

The lines will probably look like this

Benn-seguin-chassion
Whitney-peverly-nichuskin
Cole-Eakins-?
Rousell-horcoff-Garbutt

I'm hoping we find a 2/3 RW. If not Rousell has shown the ability to slide up in the lineup and put mcdermic 4th line.


mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
You don't know how to use the internet or the do math I see
- Heavyd17


You're right, I don't know how the do math.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
Jesus Christ, that would suck balls, and I would forever consider MacT a (frank)ing moron if that happened.
- laughs2907

Me too. Dubby is good. He puts up decent numbers with a crappy defensive team in front of him. If he can stop letting in the easy goal every game he'll be awesome. He will definitely be given the chance this year to get it together. If not we'll upgrade next offseason
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
I almosts think Daniel Cleary is THE best option remaining for us in FA.

He's not a top 6er in terms of offense, but he's a quality defender and physical presence. That's the kind of complimentary player we need.

His deal seems to be snagged with the Red Wings, I hope MacT is pressing on it.

- Morris


^this
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:44 PM ET
Me too. Dubby is good. He puts up decent numbers with a crappy defensive team in front of him. If he can stop letting in the easy goal every game he'll be awesome. He will definitely be given the chance this year to get it together. If not we'll upgrade next offseason
- Ihatebrianburke


i'd give it 30-40 games and see what happens, i would consider pulling the trigger mid season if it's a poop show. otherwise there is a decent crop of ufa goalies available next frenzy.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:44 PM ET


Insanely funny episode.....not so great for my image as a Jersey resident though



edit: But seriously, it's like night and day here. Half the people living in South Jersey have super thick, italian-style, South Philadelphia accents. A lot of business owners in Philadelphia and parts of Pennsylvania live in New Jersey

- mochoson

Its a jersey thing
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
Benn isn't playing center. He's not a center. He's going back to LW

The lines will probably look like this

Benn-seguin-chassion
Whitney-peverly-nichuskin
Cole-Eakins-?
Rousell-horcoff-Garbutt

I'm hoping we find a 2/3 RW. If not Rousell has shown the ability to slide up in the lineup and put mcdermic 4th line.

- NoobasaurusRex


I disagree wholeheartedly. Jamie Benn is fine at center and I think he still plays there unless they do something like this.

Benn-Seguin-Chiasson
Whitney-Eakins-Nichuskin
Peverley-Horcoff-Cole
Roussel-Fiddler-Garbutt/Macdermid

And looking at this, I actually might like this better. Jamie Benn is definitely a capable center though, just gotta work on face-offs a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the wing for this reason though. Seguin is a natural center and Horcoff and Peverley are both much better at face-offs. Its been an Achilles heal of this team for far too long.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:51 PM ET
No no no we should be looking for the NEXT Pietrangelo not the current Pietrangelo.

As for the 2LW, what about Hemsky -half his salary and Nick Schultz for Oshie?

- TomKlassen

wouldn't this still add up to them ADDING salary?
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:51 PM ET
I disagree wholeheartedly. Jamie Benn is fine at center and I think he still plays there unless they do something like this.

Benn-Seguin-Chiasson
Whitney-Eakins-Nichuskin
Peverley-Horcoff-Cole
Roussel-Fiddler-Garbutt/Macdermid

And looking at this, I actually might like this better. Jamie Benn is definitely a capable center though, just gotta work on face-offs a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the wing for this reason though. Seguin is a natural center and Horcoff and Peverley are both much better at face-offs. Its been an Achilles heal of this team for far too long.

- mochoson


Dallas fans here have been begging for benn to be moved back to LW. His game fits it better and we all saw that the last few seasons after forcing him into C. Both ruff and nill have come out and said benn will be playing wing now. And the whole reason we just got 3 centers, including a center to play with benn.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
Lou for segiun is a wash, so don't tell me they got more scoring. They just got a young version and some better quality bottom 6 guys
- Heavyd17

From my perspective, Lou for Seguin and Peverley is an improvement to the current squad's scoring. Tough to argue that imo.

That's all I was saying - Horcoff is a good piece in a quality bottom 6 who's only real downside is that he's overpaid.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
i'd give it 30-40 games and see what happens, i would consider pulling the trigger mid season if it's a poop show. otherwise there is a decent crop of ufa goalies available next frenzy.
- deks1

I think he'll be improved this year as our D is already better with Ference in and Whitney out. It will be crazy to see how much King Henrik will receive if he hits the open market next year
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
wouldn't this still add up to them ADDING salary?
- hugefemale dog77


about $6m (half hemsky + n.schultz) vs $4.175m...not doing blues any favors. it's a no go.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
I think he'll be improved this year as our D is already better with Ference in and Whitney out. It will be crazy to see how much King Henrik will receive if he hits the open market next year
- Ihatebrianburke


he goes to philly.

if dub fails, then i would considering signing a 1a and 1b next season.
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
From my perspective, Lou for Seguin and Peverley is an improvement to the current squad's scoring. Tough to argue that imo.

That's all I was saying - Horcoff is a good piece in a quality bottom 6 who's only real downside is that he's overpaid.

- Morris



agree
but not much of an upgrade
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
You might see Horcoff with the bottom line ES, but factoring in special teams I sincerely doubt Eakin will come close to being the 3rd centre in terms of TOI. Even at ES I see them getting similar time.

And the 4Cs are no slouch. Fiddler/Garbut are good enough in the bottom 6 that you can "risk" putting at least one of Peverley, Benn and Seguin on the wings.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Dallas fans here have been begging for benn to be moved back to LW. His game fits it better and we all saw that the last few seasons after forcing him into C. Both ruff and nill have come out and said benn will be playing wing now. And the whole reason we just got 3 centers, including a center to play with benn.
- NoobasaurusRex



So which one of you 2 are talking out of your ass???? tick tock tick tock...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
haha way less impactful?? not part of the core?? OKAY GUY! We clearly have a difference of opinions when it comes to BOLD moves and hockey in general. I hope PRV isn't a part of your "fab 5"
- nanook82


Easy there trucker. Boston is a very deep team. They can absorb the loss of Seguin. Ericsson replaced Horton more or less. We only have 5 top 6 forwards, trading away one without a replacement ready would have a huge negative impact. Go ahead, trade one of the kids. I'm sure you can fix this team way quicker than Mac T.
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