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Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 12:51 PM ET
So no one is worth more than 6?
- robin_steele264


Look at the wings, one of the best if not the best defencemen to play the game didn't make over $7 million, Now you want to give some guy that doesn't even come close to Nick when he was over the hill $7 million Plus. Your team would have cap issue every year.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 12:53 PM ET
Severely doubt we put Horcoff on the 4th line.

Whitney-Benn-Nichuskin
Peverley-Seguin-Cole
Eakins-Horcoff-Chiasson
Roussel-Fiddler-Garbutt/Macdermid

- mochoson

We? Just how many teams do you have?
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
Look at the wings, one of the best if not the best defencemen to play the game didn't make over $7 million, Now you want to give some guy that doesn't even come close to Nick when he was over the hill $7 million Plus. Your team would have cap issue every year.
- Heavyd17




Go research what Lidstrom got paid.


Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
Your out to lunch.

Pietrangelo is a player that 29 teams never even get to sniff. Your saying it like every team has a player of that caliber and over-pays them, which is why teams are having trouble operating under the cap.

He is a guy you throw the bank at and call it a day. You should google Nicklas Lidstroms life time earnings as a hockey player and than divide it by the number of years he played. Ill be thoroughly surprised if it's less than 7 million.

- mochoson


he made over $7 million 4 years oof 21 years in the NHL

Learn MATH buddy
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 12:57 PM ET
they would be better for a year then the team would be ripped apart in front of your eyes, the Nuge and Yaks and J Shultz will need contracts in a couple years. can't afford them all with $7 or $8 million offers to fill a hole. Typically arm chair GM.
- Heavyd17

The cap is going up next year and a lot of teams still seem to manage the cap just fine with one large cap hit on the books. He is an elite defenseman.
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 12:58 PM ET
We? Just how many teams do you have?
- Ihatebrianburke


Nichuskin hasn't played a game in the NHL and he is on your First line. hahahahaha

Good one buddy
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
Look at the wings, one of the best if not the best defencemen to play the game didn't make over $7 million, Now you want to give some guy that doesn't even come close to Nick when he was over the hill $7 million Plus. Your team would have cap issue every year.
- Heavyd17

He was making 7.8 million a year to be exact if you want to bring him into this
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:00 PM ET
We? Just how many teams do you have?
- Ihatebrianburke


I literally probably come on this blog everyday and say the only two teams I give a (frank) about are the Stars and the Flyers.

Born in Philly, live in Jersey. My entire extended family are die-hard Flyers fans. I am as well, but I was the oddball who was obsessed with Sergei Zubov and Mike Modano when I started playing hockey when i was like, 6.

There. You guys got my life story. And no, I dont like the Thrashers.
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
The cap is going up next year and a lot of teams still seem to manage the cap just fine with one large cap hit on the books. He is an elite defenseman.
- Ihatebrianburke



Weber, Chara, Pronger (was, to old and is a cyclops with head issues) yes elite and tough, No to Pietrangelo is elite but he is also soft as butter.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
I literally probably come on this blog everyday and say the only two teams I give a (frank) about are the Stars and the Flyers.

Born in Philly, live in Jersey. My entire extended family are die-hard Flyers fans. I am as well, but I was the oddball who was obsessed with Sergei Zubov and Mike Modano when I started playing hockey when i was like, 6.

There. You guys got my life story. And no, I dont like the Thrashers.

- mochoson

I couldn't stand to be around those trashy Jersey accents all day. How do you do it? Or have you developed one yourself?
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
He was making 7.8 million a year to be exact if you want to bring him into this
- Ihatebrianburke



Wrong


2006-07 $7,600,000 $7,600,000 $0 — $7,600,000
2007-08 $7,600,000 $7,600,000 $0 — $7,600,000


2008-09 $7,450,000 $7,450,000 $0 — $7,450,000
2009-10 $7,450,000 $7,450,000 $0 — $7,450,000
2010-11 $6,200,000 $6,200,000 $0 - $6,200,000
2011-12 $6,200,000 $6,200,000 $0 - $6,200,000
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
Weber, Chara, Pronger (was, to old and is a cyclops with head issues) yes elite and tough, No to Pietrangelo is elite but he is also soft as butter.
- Heavyd17

Every team in the league would love to have him. Even at 7.5. You make cap room for somebody that good
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
he made over $7 million 4 years oof 21 years in the NHL

Learn MATH buddy

- Heavyd17


Actually, he was paid over 7 million dollars in salary 9 years of his NHL career and made over 100 million in his career.

http://www.hockeyzoneplus.com/salaries/2226

And that took me all of 3 seconds to find on google. You should learn how to internet, "buddy".

If you start at 97-98 (as far back as NHL.com stats go), Lidstrom was playing 27 minutes a night. Safe to say he was the top defender on the team (Pietrangelo).

So lets see if you know math, "buddy". Average Lidstrom's salary from 97-98 and tell me if it's over 7 million. Hell, if your so good at math, you can do his whole career and apply inflation as well. You know, since your so good at math.

Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
Every team in the league would love to have him. Even at 7.5. You make cap room for somebody that good
- Ihatebrianburke



Not at $7.5 million, yes to $6 million
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
Actually, he was paid over 7 million dollars in salary 9 years of his NHL career and made over 100 million in his career.

http://www.hockeyzoneplus.com/salaries/2226

And that took me all of 3 seconds to find on google. You should learn how to internet, "buddy".

If you start at 97-98 (as far back as NHL.com stats go), Lidstrom was playing 27 minutes a night. Safe to say he was the top defender on the team (Pietrangelo).

So lets see if you know math, "buddy". Average Lidstrom's salary from 97-98 and tell me if it's over 7 million. Hell, if your so good at math, you can do his whole career and apply inflation as well. You know, since your so good at math.

- mochoson



He started in 91 not 97
He also put 60 points in 91 so elite, so try again with your math BUDDY
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
I couldn't stand to be around those trashy Jersey accents all day. How do you do it? Or have you developed one yourself?
- Ihatebrianburke


Very, very common misconception of the state of New Jersey. I cannot explain to you how annoying it is that the entire country think's the entire state is like one big episode of Jersey shore. Far from it.

New Jersey should be two completely different states. South Jersey might as well be apart of Philadelhphia. NOBODY down here likes the Devils, to give you an idea from a hockey stand point. It's lots of really nice suburbs built up over time, and a large section of South Jersey is to pricey for 90% of the country to even live in. NJ overall is one of the most expensive states in the US.

Go up north? Its the boondocks, than Newark (Devils). Completely different culture and kind of people, seriously. This is where you'll see more of the trashy Jersey accents and what not.

There was actually a movement to try and get the state separated, if I'm not mistaken. They wanted to make Philadelphia it's own state and include South Jersey, leaving Pennsylvania (minus Philadelphia) and New Jersey (minus South Jersey). THATS how different it is. I don't know how far it got or if it's even still going on, but it's been discussed.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:15 PM ET
He started in 91 not 97
He also put 60 points in 91 so elite, so try again with your math BUDDY

- Heavyd17


I'm very well aware of when he started, I'm the one that sent you his career earnings you (frank)ing retard. Learn to read, I said it's as far back as NHL.com stats go for TOI.

Like I said, apply inflation and than get back to me, since your so good at math.

The fact I'm even having a conversation about whether the best players in the world should make over 7+ million dollars annually with someone who can't even read is beyond asinine.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
Wrong


2006-07 $7,600,000 $7,600,000 $0 — $7,600,000
2007-08 $7,600,000 $7,600,000 $0 — $7,600,000


2008-09 $7,450,000 $7,450,000 $0 — $7,450,000
2009-10 $7,450,000 $7,450,000 $0 — $7,450,000
2010-11 $6,200,000 $6,200,000 $0 - $6,200,000
2011-12 $6,200,000 $6,200,000 $0 - $6,200,000

- Heavyd17

My bad. Don't know where I got that # from but I couldve sworn that's what he made
Heavyd17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sylvan Lake, AB
Joined: 07.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
I'm very well aware of when he started, I'm the one that sent you his career earnings you (frank)ing retard. Learn to read, I said it's as far back as NHL.com stats go for TOI.

Like I said, apply inflation and than get back to me, since your so good at math.

The fact I'm even having a conversation about whether the best players in the world should make over 7+ million dollars annually with someone who can't even read is beyond asinine.

- mochoson



then why did you say 98 dumbass
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
then why did you say 98 dumbass
- Heavyd17


Because for the third time now, 97-98 is as far back as NHL.com stats go for TOI.

Which is irrelevant since you wanna mention he had 60 points his rookie year. Fine. Apply for inflation. Go ahead. Get back to me and tell me if his career earnings averages more than 7mill per.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:21 PM ET
Friend of mine says that "Oil-NYR" Blockbuster rumor keeps popping up on twitter (he only follows the New York writers and such).. Is there anything being reported or rumored in EDM?
- mrhattrick27


Yeah, it's Hemsky + for Staal

just (frank)in' with you
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:26 PM ET
he made over $7 million 4 years oof 21 years in the NHL

Learn MATH buddy

- Heavyd17


I was wrong.

Say it with me.

I was wrong.

Everybody gets things wrong, its the people who cant admit when they are wrong who are infuriating.



laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:28 PM ET
You'd blow him and you know it
- Ihatebrianburke


Already have
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
Dub gets traded if bryz comes to edm. I don't think he is coming.
- deks1


Jesus Christ, that would suck balls, and I would forever consider MacT a (frank)ing moron if that happened.
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