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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 8 @ 6:59 PM ET
Facepalms all around
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
if you get freshly bought out gilbert to a cheap contract at say 4M over 2 years(2M AAV). You've improved your team for an absolute steal
- TheNugeIsHuge


I'm not saying he isnt a good player,at all. But I think he has long displayed the best he has to offer. I think Petry is already as good as Gilbert ever was, and I would hate to not get a really good look at Belov because the coach has to make room for Gilbert.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
I think there are better options. If not better,fresher. Both Penner and Gilbert, you know what you get, mediocracy. We shoot aim a bit higher I think, even if its a miss.
- Jeropotato

im not interested in recycling players from a time when we decided we were so bad and going nowhere that we tore it down and got rid of them.

I think this rebuild was as much about completely changing the culture and moving forward as it was about building a cup champion.
or more to the point; the two go hand in hand
bigdaddyneil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 8 @ 7:03 PM ET
It's bad when bloggers speculate...it's pathetic when they make poop up. It's no wonder the respect he craves from the MSM has eluded him so far.
- Jeropotato

It always will elude him. He is more of a fan than a serious blogger. Got way too mad for no reason during the draft. Too much wishful thinking.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
Facepalms all around
- mochoson

come in and save us
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:12 PM ET
I'm not saying he isnt a good player,at all. But I think he has long displayed the best he has to offer. I think Petry is already as good as Gilbert ever was, and I would hate to not get a really good look at Belov because the coach has to make room for Gilbert.
- Jeropotato


Gilbert>N Schultz.
Deal N Schultz for a 2nd.
Play Belov-Gilbert as the bottom pairing
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:13 PM ET
Gilbert>N Schultz.
Deal N Schultz for a 2nd.
Play Belov-Gilbert as the bottom pairing

- TheNugeIsHuge


Yeah, I'll give you that, but I bet Minni feel the opposite.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 8 @ 7:14 PM ET
come in and save us
- Morris


Too late for most of you

(unless you wanna help me since your one of the few here with a brain)
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jul 8 @ 7:20 PM ET
Being as Penner only shows up in the playoffs, you would never know he was on the Oilers.
bluenatic411
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 01.14.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:40 PM ET
Smells like bullpoop. source?
- Jeropotato

Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe, on Twitter.

"@eklund: Marchand? Wow. That would be a shocker. interesting. RT @GlobeKPD: Also would not be surprised to see Marchand and/or Kelly traded."
crazywolf
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 7:51 PM ET
Penner is free people... If we are not doing a bold trade and not wanting to give something up then why not sign him??? give him a 1 year deal or even 2 - not the end of the world... if people were talking about turnover machine Gilbert- then Penner should get mentioned too...
- saskoil21


We can't sign him as he won't sign to come here. The Penner ship has sailed and sunk.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:55 PM ET
Being as Penner only shows up in the playoffs, you would never know he was on the Oilers.
- StayTunedMTC


good one. Clever. Still gloating about the single cup win in franchise history I see
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 8 @ 7:57 PM ET
It's bad when bloggers speculate...it's pathetic when they make poop up. It's no wonder the respect he craves from the MSM has eluded him so far.
- Jeropotato

If this was a Facebook status, I would hit the like button. Since it is not, it qualifies for 3 of these and 3 of these
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:01 PM ET
hey guys just wondering...how good are petry and smid? how underrated/perfectly rated are they? what's their value compared to a kid like MDZ?
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 8:03 PM ET
if you get freshly bought out gilbert to a cheap contract at say 4M over 2 years(2M AAV). You've improved your team for an absolute steal
- TheNugeIsHuge


Can't argue that.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
Facepalms all around
- mochoson

ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
hey guys just wondering...how good are petry and smid? how underrated/perfectly rated are they? what's their value compared to a kid like MDZ?
- rangerdanger94

Smid isn't gonna score ya many goals, but will put his face in front of the puck to keep it from going in the net. Neither of those two have near as cool initials as MDZ.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 8 @ 8:10 PM ET
hey guys just wondering...how good are petry and smid? how underrated/perfectly rated are they? what's their value compared to a kid like MDZ?
- rangerdanger94


Not a fan of MDZ. Love McD, Staal, n Girardi, but don't see MDZ as a fit.

I see Petry has a good #3D man n Smid as a 3/4 tweener lean to 4.

I think MDZ can be a top pairing but'll probably be a #3
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:11 PM ET
Smid isn't gonna score ya many goals, but will put his face in front of the puck to keep it from going in the net. Neither of those two have near as cool initials as MDZ.
- ruttager17

well the reason i ask is because someone in the rangers thread brought a trade proposal of paajarvi + petry for MDZ and i thought it was kinda ridiculous cuz i always thought petry was your #1 guy and one of the must underrated guy in the league and good enough for MDZ straight up. thought hes a better nhl player at the moment than MDZ but MDZ has more potential and a higher ceiling. but i can't remember if that's petry or smid or both?
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 8 @ 8:16 PM ET
well the reason i ask is because someone in the rangers thread brought a trade proposal of paajarvi + petry for MDZ and i thought it was kinda ridiculous cuz i always thought petry was your #1 guy and one of the must underrated guy in the league and good enough for MDZ straight up. thought hes a better nhl player at the moment than MDZ but MDZ has more potential and a higher ceiling. but i can't remember if that's petry or smid or both?
- rangerdanger94

I don't watch enough of the Rangers to comment on MDZ with any kind of objectivity. Petry has improved leaps and bounds the last few years and think the Oilers would be foolish to trade him as his value to the team is huge right now. Smid as well is a shutdown guy the Oil need and will drop the gloves to defend a teammate and that is something that is needed with the small forwards. Maggy really improved this year, but still has no real value and is IMO a prospect who could get better or maybe just plateau. That trade is cool for the purposes of trading MDZ for MPV from an acronym standpoint. . Don't really think giving up Petry for MDZ improves the Oil though.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:19 PM ET
I don't watch enough of the Rangers to comment on MDZ with any kind of objectivity. Petry has improved leaps and bounds the last few years and think the Oilers would be foolish to trade him as his value to the team is huge right now. Smid as well is a shutdown guy the Oil need and will drop the gloves to defend a teammate and that is something that is needed with the small forwards. Maggy really improved this year, but still has no real value and is IMO a prospect who could get better or maybe just plateau. That trade is cool for the purposes of trading MDZ for MPV from an acronym standpoint. . Don't really think giving up Petry for MDZ improves the Oil though.
- ruttager17

ight thx
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
ight thx
- rangerdanger94

Just read your location. Did some pen's fan actually write this?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
well the reason i ask is because someone in the rangers thread brought a trade proposal of paajarvi + petry for MDZ and i thought it was kinda ridiculous cuz i always thought petry was your #1 guy and one of the must underrated guy in the league and good enough for MDZ straight up. thought hes a better nhl player at the moment than MDZ but MDZ has more potential and a higher ceiling. but i can't remember if that's petry or smid or both?
- rangerdanger94


petry
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Just read your location. Did some pen's fan actually write this?
- ruttager17

yea what a clown
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
well the reason i ask is because someone in the rangers thread brought a trade proposal of paajarvi + petry for MDZ and i thought it was kinda ridiculous cuz i always thought petry was your #1 guy and one of the must underrated guy in the league and good enough for MDZ straight up. thought hes a better nhl player at the moment than MDZ but MDZ has more potential and a higher ceiling. but i can't remember if that's petry or smid or both?
- rangerdanger94

we probably wouldn't trade petry straight up for mdz. let alone add prv.

petry is our number 1 guy, but that has as much to do with our lack of depth than how great he is. imo, he could be a true #2 at some point, but right now is probably closer to a 2nd pairing guy that's solid both ways.

smid is a much lesser talent, and is prob somewhere between a 4 and a 5 guy. a tough, defensive guy with little to no offensive skills, but a warrior and will do anything he can to help the team.
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