Speaking of old dud jerseys, had 1 I unearthed recently, the liberty jersey with Jan Hlavac #27.
- B2B76

I still have a Nedved #93

I can't remember, so maybe someone can help me out, but did Moore see any time on the 2nd PP unit?
- MeanestOfTimes

Yea, eventually he started playing the PP.

I still have a Nedved #93
- beuka23

i have a brashear jersey.....PSYCH. i'd probably burn that if i did.

I can't remember, so maybe someone can help me out, but did Moore see any time on the 2nd PP unit?
- MeanestOfTimes

Yes, toward the end of the year, he started to get mixed into the PP, especially when Torts was trying anything to get that unit going. I have expected them to recall Stu Bickel to try him on the power play point. I think Moore has some potential on the PP. Maybe not a top unit guy, but certaintly a potential second unit guy.

What's taking so long to sign all these UFAs throughout the leauge? There is a bunch of guys that are pretty good still available
- Slimtj100

It's like that break that everyone takes after Thanksgiving Dinner, before they start devouring the pie and leftovers.

It's like that break that everyone takes after Thanksgiving Dinner, before they start devouring the pie and leftovers.
- Pete V

Yep, those teams that didnt eat anything all day before dinner and binged once that big turkey hit the table are laid out on the couch.

I still have a Nedved #93
- beuka23

Ooh that's bad

I can't remember, so maybe someone can help me out, but did Moore see any time on the 2nd PP unit?
- MeanestOfTimes

He averaged about 0:46 per game of PP time with the Rangers.

Ooh that's bad
- Slimtj100

I wonder if anyone bought a Mike Rupp jersey.

Yes, toward the end of the year, he started to get mixed into the PP, especially when Torts was trying anything to get that unit going. I have expected them to recall Stu Bickel to try him on the power play point. I think Moore has some potential on the PP. Maybe not a top unit guy, but certaintly a potential second unit guy.
- Pete V

Moore certainly seemed to have potential as an offensive defenseman, but then what do our PP D corps consist of? DZ, Mcdonaugh, Staal, Moore? What if Staal is still a no go, sub in Stralman and worry about our long term bigger problems..

Anyone have an idea of how AV ran the 5 on 3 PP the past few years in Van in terms of forward nd defense combinations?

Moore certainly seemed to have potential as an offensive defenseman, but then what do our PP D corps consist of? DZ, Mcdonaugh, Staal, Moore? What if Staal is still a no go, sub in Stralman and worry about our long term bigger problems..

Anyone have an idea of how AV ran the 5 on 3 PP the past few years in Van in terms of forward nd defense combinations?
- MeanestOfTimes

we should run a PP of Staal and McDonagh at the points with moore and DZ in the circles and girardi in front of the goalie.

we should run a PP of Staal and McDonagh at the points with moore and DZ in the circles and girardi in front of the goalie.
- rangerdanger94

Actually, I dont mind Boyle in front of the net from time to time.

we should run a PP of Staal and McDonagh at the points with moore and DZ in the circles and girardi in front of the goalie.
- rangerdanger94

My worry on the pp is the personnel is the same. I was one not to blame the coaches so much for it and still feel that way. We still lack 2 imperative things for a successful pp:

1. A booming point shot
2. A net presence to screen and reek havoc for a goalie

Perimeter passing is our best attiribute on it and we'll be screaming at the tv to shoot, but the fact may remain we don't have a shooter. Nash is that guy but as Boston showed, he will be the pks focus

My worry on the pp is the personnel is the same. I was one not to blame the coaches so much for it and still feel that way. We still lack 2 imperative things for a successful pp:

1. A booming point shot
2. A net presence to screen and reek havoc for a goalie

Perimeter passing is our best attiribute on it and we'll be screaming at the tv to shoot, but the fact may remain we don't have a shooter. Nash is that guy but as Boston showed, he will be the pks focus
- Slimtj100

Actually, it looks like Moore has a deceptively good shot from the point.

My worry on the pp is the personnel is the same. I was one not to blame the coaches so much for it and still feel that way. We still lack 2 imperative things for a successful pp:

1. A booming point shot
2. A net presence to screen and reek havoc for a goalie

Perimeter passing is our best attiribute on it and we'll be screaming at the tv to shoot, but the fact may remain we don't have a shooter. Nash is that guy but as Boston showed, he will be the pks focus
- Slimtj100

it seems AV has the PP down to a science. he's been dropping stats like over 80% of all PP goals in the NHL are scored with 2 right handed shooters in certain spots and what not so hopefully he'll figure something out. i don't think torts ever researched or knew that much about the PP so we'll see.

i don't necessarily think a booming point shot is required. i think it's more important to have an accurate shot from the point, which is what staal and moore possess. the net presence certainly helps and we for sure lack anyone that can do that so far.

the PP is a funny thing. boston has one of the worst PPs in the league and they have the guy with the hardest and best shot from the point and arguably one of the most talented and skilled teams in the entire nhl along with lucic in front of the net, while chicago also has an extremely talented team and a brute in front of the net in bickel with keith and seabrook ripping shots and an equally crappy PP.

He;drove;me;nuts;and;turned;me;into;the;devil; ;
- Slimtj100

I tried to hold back as much as I could, everyone has an opinion but he really pissed me off that night about why his opinions mattered so much cause of his playing experience and this and that. Thats why i let him have it, I played hockey all my life, I don't need him telling me how much more he knows than me, I'm good.

My worry on the pp is the personnel is the same. I was one not to blame the coaches so much for it and still feel that way. We still lack 2 imperative things for a successful pp:

1. A booming point shot
2. A net presence to screen and reek havoc for a goalie

Perimeter passing is our best attiribute on it and we'll be screaming at the tv to shoot, but the fact may remain we don't have a shooter. Nash is that guy but as Boston showed, he will be the pks focus
- Slimtj100

IMO, the personnel wasn't a problem, the entire mentality of passive play was what killed us. But it was deeper than that, it was a trickle over effect from our normal offensive system. We were not an east west passing team. All our offense relied on chipping the puck along the boards and forcing it to the net with bodies rather than using the pucks speed in passing. No one on the team EVER took a one timer (probably my biggest thorn all year). It was as if they didnt know how. They used the one timer so infrequently, that when they did, it often was shanked. I don't think any of our players are unable to do it, I think 4 years of never practicing a system that keeps you on your toes with quick passing and shooting, changed our players mentality and that's why we never had a great PP.

Actually, it looks like Moore has a deceptively good shot from the point.
- aecliptic

I'm talking about a shot ala macinnis, chara, souray, weber, etc. A shot pkers are deathly afraid of. I know it's hard to come by but that's what it lacks, but there are poorer man versions of them out there. It needs to accurate too

Girardis shot is probably the best back there. Delzotto shoots lollipop ones. Moore and
Mcdonagh are intriguing so they could be the answer for it. Hopefully anyway!

I'm talking about a shot ala macinnis, chara, souray, weber, etc. A shot pkers are deathly afraid of. I know it's hard to come by but that's what it lacks, but there are poorer man versions of them out there. It needs to accurate too

Girardis shot is probably the best back there. Delzotto shoots lollipop ones. Moore and
Mcdonagh are intriguing so they could be the answer for it. Hopefully anyway!
- Slimtj100

skjei has a ROCKET of a shot apparently so we got a guy in the system.

I'm talking about a shot ala macinnis, chara, souray, weber, etc. A shot pkers are deathly afraid of. I know it's hard to come by but that's what it lacks, but there are poorer man versions of them out there. It needs to accurate too

Girardis shot is probably the best back there. Delzotto shoots lollipop ones. Moore and
Mcdonagh are intriguing so they could be the answer for it. Hopefully anyway!
- Slimtj100

As Glen mentioned last night Corvo would have been a good cheap signing. Right handed shot, scores some points, pretty hard shot, 1 yr cheap contract. Much better signing than Aaron Johnson.

it seems AV has the PP down to a science. he's been dropping stats like over 80% of all PP goals in the NHL are scored with 2 right handed shooters in certain spots and what not so hopefully he'll figure something out. i don't think torts ever researched or knew that much about the PP so we'll see.

i don't necessarily think a booming point shot is required. i think it's more important to have an accurate shot from the point, which is what staal and moore possess. the net presence certainly helps and we for sure lack anyone that can do that so far.

the PP is a funny thing. boston has one of the worst PPs in the league and they have the guy with the hardest and best shot from the point and arguably one of the most talented and skilled teams in the entire nhl along with lucic in front of the net, while chicago also has an extremely talented team and a brute in front of the net in bickel with keith and seabrook ripping shots and an equally crappy PP.
- rangerdanger94

A net presence is the most important thing I think. That's why I was so nuts about bickell. Boyle was there some of the time. But like holstrom was in his heyday is a perfect example. He drove goalies to the funny farm out there

skjei has a ROCKET of a shot apparently so we got a guy in the system.
- rangerdanger94

That'd be great. That guy the isles drafted, poluck I think is his name, has 100 mph shot apparently.

A net presence is the most important thing I think. That's why I was so nuts about bickell. Boyle was there some of the time. But like holstrom was in his heyday is a perfect example. He drove goalies to the funny farm out there
- Slimtj100

yea you stick a guy like holmstrom or lucic or someone else with a nasty mindset boyle-sized in front of the net and it turns into a 5 on 3 almost with 1 of the PKers just constantly trying to push the guy out of the crease. cally does pretty well there but he's not big enough to create too much havoc.

As Glen mentioned last night Corvo would have been a good cheap signing. Right handed shot, scores some points, pretty hard shot, 1 yr cheap contract. Much better signing than Aaron Johnson.
- pcjr307

That is a good point. I think Corvo plays D like gilroy tho. It's hard to have in the top 6, but I see what your saying

That is a good point. I think Corvo plays D like gilroy tho. It's hard to have in the top 6, but I see what your saying
- Slimtj100

He get's beat quite often now. I think Johnson will never see ice time with the Rangers this year. Mcilrath and Falk will see more time.