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Glen Healy is knocking this deal What's his argument? - mrhattrick27
Here's the argument: it's not a move made by Toronto. How he can justify the Clarkson signing and bash bringing in McDonagh, who is already a top 20 defenseman in this league at an affordable price, is high comedy.
David Clarkson getting over five million dollars a year for seven years is a flat out travesty to anyone who doesn't root for the Leafs. Healy is clearly one of those rooters. |
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Glenn Healy will not be happy about this... have the Ranger's learned nothing from their past mistakes???
- jimmc7722
Please don't ever compare Travis Hamonic to Ryan McDonagh ever ever again. Not even in the same category of defensemen even though he is a top pair for YOU guys. |
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Slimtj100
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We should still be okay to sign all the remaining RFA's. 6.5M is the capspace when we don't include Asham and Powe going to the AHL. We should have about 1M more when that happens. If Stepan can accept a deal for 4.5M and Zucc reportedly would accept an offer around 1.35M, Hags could be signed for around 1.5-1.75M on a bridge deal. Unfortunately, it looks like we will be trading away someone. Hopefully its Pyatt and not Boyle. What doesn't factor in is, Miller and McIltrath if either are gonna start with the Rangers. We'll probably be over for the summer cap and have to trim before the season starts. - xcheckmajor
All indications are he's gonzo |
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mrhattrick27
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We should still be okay to sign all the remaining RFA's. 6.5M is the capspace when we don't include Asham and Powe going to the AHL. We should have about 1M more when that happens. If Stepan can accept a deal for 4.5M and Zucc reportedly would accept an offer around 1.35M, Hags could be signed for around 1.5-1.75M on a bridge deal. Unfortunately, it looks like we will be trading away someone. Hopefully its Pyatt and not Boyle. What doesn't factor in is, Miller and McIltrath if either are gonna start with the Rangers. We'll probably be over for the summer cap and have to trim before the season starts. - xcheckmajor
We have a little more than that, $8.4 according to cap geek. Need to get Hags, Step, and Falk signed. Zuccs if he comes cheap. 1.35M? I think even TJ signs up for that because even for an extra forward that's a good rate. |
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We should still be okay to sign all the remaining RFA's. 6.5M is the capspace when we don't include Asham and Powe going to the AHL. We should have about 1M more when that happens. If Stepan can accept a deal for 4.5M and Zucc reportedly would accept an offer around 1.35M, Hags could be signed for around 1.5-1.75M on a bridge deal. Unfortunately, it looks like we will be trading away someone. Hopefully its Pyatt and not Boyle. What doesn't factor in is, Miller and McIltrath if either are gonna start with the Rangers. We'll probably be over for the summer cap and have to trim before the season starts. - xcheckmajor
Word is Zucc might not get re-signed after all. The Pouliot signing puts a damper on that. |
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All indications are he's gonzo - Slimtj100
I think thats a big mistake. Zuccarello will be even more dangerous in AV's system. He's still one of our top 3 playmakers. |
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Please don't ever compare Travis Hamonic to Ryan McDonagh ever ever again. Not even in the same category of defensemen even though he is a top pair for YOU guys. - xcheckmajor
Hamonic is pretty (frank)ign good though. Not Mac good but a guy I lock up (as they did) if I am the isles. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Who's gonzo? - xcheckmajor
Zuccarello |
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Zuccarello - Slimtj100
I'm hoping we waive Pyatt and someone picks him up so the entire 1.55M gets removed. |
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Zuccarello - Slimtj100
Would you bring him back at that $1.35 proposed price tag? To me that's too good of value to pass up to be one of your top 14 forwards. |
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We have a little more than that, $8.4 according to cap geek. Need to get Hags, Step, and Falk signed. Zuccs if he comes cheap. 1.35M? I think even TJ signs up for that because even for an extra forward that's a good rate. - mrhattrick27
I'm resigned to the team as is. So I can't argue with him here cheaply. But I think he's not coming back, been a topic for a bit. Not sure how true it is tho |
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We have a little more than that, $8.4 according to cap geek. Need to get Hags, Step, and Falk signed. Zuccs if he comes cheap. 1.35M? I think even TJ signs up for that because even for an extra forward that's a good rate. - mrhattrick27
I'm seeing 6.55M on capgeek. I have a feeling we may be using LTIR on either Cally or Hags or both. I'm also not sure why we needed both Johnson and Falk and now potentially McIlrath. D depth is good, but you don't need 3 7th dmen at the cost of not being able to sign someone like Zuccarello. |
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I'm hoping we waive Pyatt and someone picks him up so the entire 1.55M gets removed. - xcheckmajor
I think Pyatt would get picked up. Indeed, I think you could get something for him. I think Sather will wait on Zucc to see whether he can move Pyatt. One of Zucc, Pyatt or Boyle will need to go. |
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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Slimtj100
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Would you bring him back at that $1.35 proposed price tag? To me that's too good of value to pass up to be one of your top 14 forwards. - mrhattrick27
Ill answer it this way, if we could dump Boyle or pyatt id much rather have a 3 million dollar player whos bigger then zucc and could score more then boyle or pyatt |
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Would you bring him back at that $1.35 proposed price tag? To me that's too good of value to pass up to be one of your top 14 forwards. - mrhattrick27
Zuccarello has been about a .5PPG player for us ever since we got him. He's done this consistently as a 3rd liner with inconsistent minutes. I feel really bad for this kid, he has so much heart AND he has shown time and time again that if you give him top 6 minutes, he can probably do more than .5PPG. Kid lacks size but doesn't show it on the ice, he routinely makes the good play, almost never has a bad turnover, consistently uses his stick to play defense very well. I'm not sure why we keep shafting him for players like Pyatt. |
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the lack of a Henrik contract speaks volumes... - Crimsoninja
Pretty sure the RFA's are little more important right now than Henrik's extension. |
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I think Pyatt would get picked up. Indeed, I think you could get something for him. I think Sather will wait on Zucc to see whether he can move Pyatt. One of Zucc, Pyatt or Boyle will need to go. - Pete V
Got to manage your money correctly in your bottom 6, and Pyatt is not worth his price tag. If you can sneak in a 6th rounder that would be awesome but I'd be fine with waiving him. Zucc brings skill to the lineup and I think we really need to retain him if he really only costs a shade over $1M. Just seems like a no brainer. |
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the lack of a Henrik contract speaks volumes... - Crimsoninja
Rights to Henrik + our 2nd compliance buyout for Giroux + simmonds? |
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I think thats a big mistake. Zuccarello will be even more dangerous in AV's system. He's still one of our top 3 playmakers. - xcheckmajor
Miller and Kreider getting legitimate shots to play and the Pouliot signing put Zuccarello's future here in doubt.
Only way he stays is if another trade is made; otherwise financially it is just too tight. |
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Ill answer it this way, if we could dump Boyle or pyatt id much rather have a 3 million dollar player whos bigger then zucc and could score more then boyle or pyatt - Slimtj100
Got to fill out the roster though. It isn't as simple as dump 2 guys and use their money one 1. You still need 2 guys. |
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the lack of a Henrik contract speaks volumes... - Crimsoninja
Your lack of intelligence speaks volumes. |
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Got to manage your money correctly in your bottom 6, and Pyatt is not worth his price tag. If you can sneak in a 6th rounder that would be awesome but I'd be fine with waiving him. Zucc brings skill to the lineup and I think we really need to retain him if he really only costs a shade over $1M. Just seems like a no brainer. - mrhattrick27
I agree with Zucc over Pyatt. But, they may need to see whether they can move Pyatt before signing Zucc. Also, Pyatt has played for AV, so maybe he likes him. The signing of Dom Moore also means either Boyle plays the Wing or gets moved. He actually has trade value, so perhaps he could be the odd man out. |
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I agree with Zucc over Pyatt. But, they may need to see whether they can move Pyatt before signing Zucc. Also, Pyatt has played for AV, so maybe he likes him. The signing of Dom Moore also means either Boyle plays the Wing or gets moved. He actually has trade value, so perhaps he could be the odd man out. - Pete V
Got to retain Boyle. Just need that center depth. If moore is your 4C he can play a bit of wing, or slide back to 4C to open up wing spots for Rookies and Moore goes to the press box. Just gives us options. Move Pyatt for a low pick or waive him, sign a forward to a < $1M 2-way deal ala Newbury so we add some depth at forward there which can cheaply be put on the roster or sent down. Resign Zucc and call it an offseason. |
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- TimBits
What's interesting to me, is that, right after Gainey made that trade, every hockey savey person on the planet knew what a bad trade it was for the Habs. Except Gainey. |
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