I was thinking Boyle and some B level prospect for Paajarvi. He is the Oiler's equivalent of Dylan McIlrath at this point. Good prospect, but time is running out.
- Pete V

chill out with this mcilrath running out of time stuff yo. when he was drafted, it was well understood he'd be a 3-4 year project. he's right on track as bad as that sounds

petry > MDZ
- rangerdanger94

No way

Delzotto was like +20 two years ago. He had a bad shortened season.

No way
- Slimtj100

yea man petry is like their travis hamonic. unless i'm thinking smid. it's one or the other lol.

although i do think it's petry:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...IPerGame&viewName=summary

he's their top defender and highly, highly underrated. he's better than MDZ at this current stage in time.

No way

Delzotto was like +20 two years ago. He had a bad shortened season.
- Slimtj100

you should know +/- is more of a team stats than an individual stat.

petry > MDZ
- rangerdanger94

IDK about that.. But with 4 LHS it makes tough, either Staal or MDZ will be odd man out.

IDK about that.. But with 4 LHS it makes tough, either Staal or MDZ will be odd man out.
- tomburton99

haha went from i know to idk about that

but yea petry > mdz. he's really underrated guys and is their #1 defenseman. MDZ has a higher ceiling though and more potential which is why they might accept a mdz for petry trade straight up (maybe with like a 4th rounder going our way idk) but petry AND paajarvi for mdz is a no go for sure

haha went from i know to idk about that

but yea petry > mdz. he's really underrated guys and is their #1 defenseman. MDZ has a higher ceiling though and more potential which is why they might accept a mdz for petry trade straight up (maybe with like a 4th rounder going our way idk) but petry AND paajarvi for mdz is a no go for sure
- rangerdanger94

Typing on my S3, missed the don't on quick type. But Petry is not their number one guy. Schultz and Smid was their top pair last year.

Typing on my S3, missed the don't on quick type. But Petry is not their number one guy. Schultz and Smid was their top pair last year.
- tomburton99

petry had more TOI than both of them.

haha went from i know to idk about that

but yea petry > mdz. he's really underrated guys and is their #1 defenseman. MDZ has a higher ceiling though and more potential which is why they might accept a mdz for petry trade straight up (maybe with like a 4th rounder going our way idk) but petry AND paajarvi for mdz is a no go for sure
- rangerdanger94

I trust you. I just was replying to flyers guy saying that paajarvi for dz was fair. I'm not intrested in that at all. DZ probably has lower value then ever right now so trading him may be a bad idea

I trust you. I just was replying to flyers guy saying that paajarvi for dz was fair. I'm not intrested in that at all. DZ probably has lower value then ever right now so trading him may be a bad idea
- Slimtj100

Which is probably why he wont be traded until the trade deadline nears and his stock goes back up... assuming AV can bring in a system that is to MDZ's strengths.

I trust you. I just was replying to flyers guy saying that paajarvi for dz was fair. I'm not intrested in that at all. DZ probably has lower value then ever right now so trading him may be a bad idea
- Slimtj100

yea no thx to that. paajarvi is decent but i always thought he was a bit overrated. granted, i've only watch like 1 or 2 oilers games in my life.

I trust you. I just was replying to flyers guy saying that paajarvi for dz was fair. I'm not intrested in that at all. DZ probably has lower value then ever right now so trading him may be a bad idea
- Slimtj100

yea idk if u should trust me tho cuz i'm not 100% sure haha. what i do know though is that petry's value to their defense is similar to what mcdonagh's is to ours. he's the backbone and their go-to guy at only the age of 24. maybe MDZ is better, maybe not. can't say i've watched him enough to 100% say for sure but what i can say for sure petry is their most valuable dman and underrated.

Which is probably why he wont be traded until the trade deadline nears and his stock goes back up... assuming AV can bring in a system that is to MDZ's strengths.
- aecliptic

At this point Id be happy with the team right now. Let the coaching staff work with what they have. Even I'd be happy with Boyle traded and MZA brought back, seeing it as an upgrade offensively to the team

At this point Id be happy with the team right now. Let the coaching staff work with what they have. Even I'd be happy with Boyle traded and MZA brought back, seeing it as an upgrade offensively to the team
- Slimtj100

yea i'm with you on that. unless theres a deal that makes too much sense, i think we should just ride with what we've got. last season, it seemed like literally nothing went our way all season unlike the season before that. if it's just 50/50 next season, we'll be so much better. we'll already be so much better because of how young our team is and what that extra year of experience and development does to make them better and now that we have a new coach that will utilize the strengths of this squad.

At this point Id be happy with the team right now. Let the coaching staff work with what they have. Even I'd be happy with Boyle traded and MZA brought back, seeing it as an upgrade offensively to the team
- Slimtj100

I dont think youre going to see much trading, if any, until training camp. AV needs to know what hes dealing with before he starts trading guys away. How does he know what to fix if he hasnt even seen them on the ice together yet. However, in the case of MZA, even though hes a very good playmaker, I can live without him.

I dont think youre going to see much trading, if any, until training camp. AV needs to know what hes dealing with before he starts trading guys away. How does he know what to fix if he hasnt even seen them on the ice together yet. However, in the case of MZA, even though hes a very good playmaker, I can live without him.
- aecliptic

yea i love this little dude but he's no untouchable or irreplaceable. he's a nice option to have on the squad though.

yea i love this little dude but he's no untouchable or irreplaceable. he's a nice option to have on the squad though.
- rangerdanger94

His value is on shoot outs. And here's the thing, our division is gonna be tight so every point could be extremely valuable. Its wierd, I think the thought of losing MZA recently made me realize how he'll be missed

I'm watching summer ice on MSG and they have rangers Philly on from march, and the chemistry this game between step and Nash tells me they need to be linemates

His value is on shoot outs. And here's the thing, our division is gonna be tight so every point could be extremely valuable. Its wierd, I think the thought of losing MZA recently made me realize how he'll be missed
- Slimtj100

with nash, mza, and hank, we should win 8 or 9 out of every 10 shootouts theoretically. and yea that can be the difference between home ice advantage and not by the season's end.

but i still think his value is more than the shootouts. it's been a while since we've watched him play so i think we forget just how much of a spark he was when he came around the deadline. without him, we probably miss the playoffs honestly.

edit: really late on this but i asked in the oilers thread about petry and yea he is their #1 guy and with proper defense depth, will slot in as a good #2 and they wouldn't trade him for DZ straight up

No way

Delzotto was like +20 two years ago. He had a bad shortened season.
- Slimtj100

We're all down on him but every one of knows he has the talent, he was on his way before the playoffs last season

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Brassard-MZA
Pouliet-Richards-Callahan
Pyatt/Boyle-Miller/Boyle/Moore-Miller/Dorsett/Kristo
(With Fast, Lindberg, asham, powe in the mix aswell)

I think this should be our forwards. If Kreider and Richards are better, i think the top 9 is actully really good the more I disect it. And the 4th has options. I hope that who ever the 4th line is, it gets a regular shift more often then it did under torts. I believe ,like in Boston, the depth can make a huge difference. Keeping guys fresh is the main factor. Our top guys were spent by the end of the season

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Brassard-MZA
Pouliet-Richards-Callahan
Pyatt/Boyle-Miller/Boyle/Moore-Miller/Dorsett/Kristo
(With Fast, Lindberg, asham, powe in the mix aswell)

I think this should be our forwards. If Kreider and Richards are better, i think the top 9 is actully really good the more I disect it. And the 4th has options. I hope that who ever the 4th line is, it gets a regular shift more often then it did under torts. I believe ,like in Boston, the depth can make a huge difference. Keeping guys fresh is the main factor. Our top guys were spent by the end of the season
- Slimtj100

Cally wont be playing 3rd line when even strength.

Cally wont be playing 3rd line when even strength.
- aecliptic

Well I don't think it really matters . The 2nd and 3rd line on paper are like 2A and 2B anyway. I just think Kreider should have 2 playmakers with him to maximize his skill set

Well I don't think it really matters . The 2nd and 3rd line on paper are like 2A and 2B anyway. I just think Kreider should have 2 playmakers with him to maximize his skill set
- Slimtj100

Its going to be Kreider, Richards, Cally on the 2nd line.

However, it doesnt matter, AV does line matchups... it probably will look different all the time. But you wont see mid-game line shuffling 1000x.

Its going to be Kreider, Richards, Cally on the 2nd line.

However, it doesnt matter, AV does line matchups... it probably will look different all the time. But you wont see mid-game line shuffling 1000x.
- aecliptic

That'll be a refreshing change no doubt.

Personally I like Callahan pouliet as the grinders/defensive line and not be counted on for offense as much. More to put against the other teams top guys. But AV I'm sure will figure out what's best.

If I was the coach I'd have Stepan Nash together, Kreider with 2 set up men and Callahan with pouliet. Figure the middle 2 centers out based on chemistry