xcheckmajor
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Of course we can... first of, its expected for the salary cap to increase by atleast 5%, meaning 3 to 4 million guaranteed. Secondly, we buy out Richards freeing up 6.66 million. Thirdly, only Nash, Staal and Dorsett have contracts that extend after next year. - aecliptic
I think you missed my whole long post that calculates all of this in it. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I think that would be a terrible mistake. Too many teams are falling for the "top heavy" build where 3-4 players eat up 50% of the teams cap. Thats a terrible recipe for having holes the roster then with an uneven build. If we have to shell out 12-14M for the Sedin Twins, there is no way we can keep guys like Girardi, Brassard, and Del Zotto. We would have like an amazing top 6 and a terrible bottom 6, a great top 3 or 4 dmen, then complete liabilities in 5 & 6. It would blow up the core. - xcheckmajor
I don't think it would be bad at all. We need a top flight LW and with Richards gone we'd need another center. Now, if we deal a brassard it could make more sense before we possibly lose him as FA
But I'm all in for the twins in NY. Hank may even take less money to stay because they are swedes |
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aecliptic
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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I think you missed my whole long post that calculates all of this in it. - xcheckmajor
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($4.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.000m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m)
Jesper Fasth ($0.900m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($3.325m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $69,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,927,500; BONUSES: $1,362,500
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $5,735,000
Heres a breakdown with current salaries, and a $5 million increase in the cap. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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This is about 40M in only 10 Forwards right here. Add 8M for Hank, 4.7 for McD, 4M for Staal and you have about 57M tied up. That leaves about 10M to sign 3 more forwards and 5 more defensemen. There is no way you can put this type of roster together. - xcheckmajor
You figure out a way when players like the sedins are available. At what point do we say fk it, lets win a cup. This core needs to win soon, or before you know it they are to old |
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xcheckmajor
New York Rangers |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.28.2013
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If Stralman has a good year this season, the Rangers wont be able to re-sign him. He'll be 27 and with an increasing cap I could see a team playing him close to or more than 3 million AAV on the open market. Brassard has to be signed at 4 million. Due to him being a RFA and his actually salary of 3.7 million this season. The Rangers if they intend on keeping have to qualify him at 4 million. Forget about Girardi and Lundqvist. They will get big time $$$, whether it be with the Rangers or on the open Market. - tomburton99
Lundqvist I factored in my post with a 1.5M dollar raise, that puts him at 8M per season. That would be the highest paid goalie in the league. Girardi, I factored 1.5M raise as well, that puts him a little above McDonagh's salary. Strahlman, I can see him getting a little raise to maybe 2.5M, but he doesn't play enough minutes to get over 3M. Look at our current defensemen breakdown. I think it will be fine. Brassard has to really have a breakout year to substantiate a 4M dollar salary. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($4.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.000m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m)
Jesper Fasth ($0.900m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($3.325m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $69,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,927,500; BONUSES: $1,362,500
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $5,735,000
Heres a breakdown with current salaries, and a $5 million increase in the cap. - aecliptic
Brassard has to be qualify at 4 million. Girardi will not sign for the same amount he's making now. Other team officials would cream themselves over Girardi. Adrew Ference got a increase of 1 million AAV from Edomonton, Girardi would get the same if not more. |
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xcheckmajor
New York Rangers |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.28.2013
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FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($4.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.000m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m)
Jesper Fasth ($0.900m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($3.325m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $69,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,927,500; BONUSES: $1,362,500
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $5,735,000
Heres a breakdown with current salaries, and a $5 million increase in the cap. - aecliptic
You aren't factoring in any raises for Girardi, Lundqvist, Callahan, Moore, Strahlman, Kreider, Del Zotto. If you think we will resign them all at the same exactly salary they receive now, your nutty! And the Sedins will command 7M or more in UFA. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Lundqvist I factored in my post with a 1.5M dollar raise, that puts him at 8M per season. That would be the highest paid goalie in the league. Girardi, I factored 1.5M raise as well, that puts him a little above McDonagh's salary. Strahlman, I can see him getting a little raise to maybe 2.5M, but he doesn't play enough minutes to get over 3M. Look at our current defensemen breakdown. I think it will be fine. Brassard has to really have a breakout year to substantiate a 4M dollar salary. - xcheckmajor
For the Rangers to qualify him, he has to be making 4 million. If the Rangers don't qualify him at 4 million they lose him to UFA. |
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aecliptic
New York Rangers |
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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Brassard has to be qualify at 4 million. girardi will not sign for the same amount he's making now. Other team officials would cream themselves over Girardi. Adrew Ference got a increase of 1 million AAV from Edomonton, Girardi would get the same if not more. - tomburton99
If we do go for the Sedins, Brassard or MDZ might get traded. |
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aecliptic
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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You aren't factoring in any raises for Girardi, Lundqvist, Callahan, Moore, Strahlman, Kreider, Del Zotto. If you think we will resign them all at the same exactly salary they receive now, your nutty! And the Sedins will command 7M or more in UFA. - xcheckmajor
I know Im not, thats why I said that lay out was with current salaries so everyone can see it and do the mental math. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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You aren't factoring in any raises for Girardi, Lundqvist, Callahan, Moore, Strahlman, Kreider, Del Zotto. If you think we will resign them all at the same exactly salary they receive now, your nutty! And the Sedins will command 7M or more in UFA. - xcheckmajor
If you factor in the contracts off the books, possible hank discount, cap raising, some more kids infused that's alot of money available. Hey maybe even the sedins hunger to win makes them say we' ll take a discount too.
It wouldn't shock me at all if the sedins are in NYC next season |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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If we do go for the Sedins, Brassard or MDZ might get traded. - aecliptic
Probably both. The Rangers once again lack depth. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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If we do go for the Sedins, Brassard or MDZ might get traded. - aecliptic
Brassard wouldn't be here no doubt |
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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If we do go for the Sedins, Brassard or MDZ might get traded. - aecliptic
I don't think the Sedins will ever hit the market. They are too important to that franchise for management not to bend over backwards to keep them. |
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aecliptic
New York Rangers |
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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Probably both. The Rangers once again lack depth. - tomburton99
Not at all...
Miller moves to 3rd line center (pretty much the plan they had for him since they drafted him) and Kristo or Fast play the RW on 3rd line.
Our depth is fine because we have a bunch of prospects that are very close to ready for the NHL. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I don't think the Sedins will ever hit the market. They are too important to that franchise for management not to bend over backwards to keep them. - Pete V
Torts factor has to be considered now tho. They could be misrable under him |
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xcheckmajor
New York Rangers |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.28.2013
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If we do go for the Sedins, Brassard or MDZ might get traded. - aecliptic
Nash, Sedin, Sedin, Stepan, Callahan, Lundqvist. Thats a 100pt. player, a 90pt. player, 2 80pt players and a 60pt. player, and the leagues (probable) most expensive goalie. LOL, thats not a feasible build, you would have nothing left to build the rest of the team. Look at Pittsburgh! They weren't even as top heavy, and they were only able to do it at the end of the year with Iginla's prorated cap hit for the playoffs. |
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Not at all...
Miller moves to 3rd line center (pretty much the plan they had for him since they drafted him) and Kristo or Fast play the RW on 3rd line.
Our depth is fine because we have a bunch of prospects that are very close to ready for the NHL. - aecliptic
You could employ the Black Hawks model. Lock in a few core players, move secondary players for draft picks, and replace the guys who get traded with good players on entry level deals. |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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If you factor in the contracts off the books, possible hank discount, cap raising, some more kids infused that's alot of money available. Hey maybe even the sedins hunger to win makes them say we' ll take a discount too.
It wouldn't shock me at all if the sedins are in NYC next season - Slimtj100
Then the guy in your Avatar is gonna have a new home. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Does it sound feasible the AV hiring could have at least a smidgen to do with the sedins FA looming? At least the seed is planted for reuniting them with AV |
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Pete V
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Does it sound feasible the AV hiring could have at least a smidgen to do with the sedins FA looming? At least the seed is planted for reuniting them with AV - Slimtj100
I think if the leave the Nucks, the Rangers are the logical landing spot. |
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mrhattrick27
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.01.2008
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Does it sound feasible the AV hiring could have at least a smidgen to do with the sedins FA looming? At least the seed is planted for reuniting them with AV - Slimtj100
Getting both Sedins with the current roster is unrealistic. This isn't NHL14. An no, AV was hired because he was the best coach out there. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Then the guy in your Avatar is gonna have a new home. - tomburton99
Well something's are worth sacrificing. I love girardi but these twins are game breakers. Imagine them with Nash or even on a seperate line where Nash is on the second line best top 6 in the leauge
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I think if the leave the Nucks, the Rangers are the logical landing spot. - Pete V
Yea that's all I'm saying |
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xcheckmajor
New York Rangers |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.28.2013
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Does it sound feasible the AV hiring could have at least a smidgen to do with the sedins FA looming? At least the seed is planted for reuniting them with AV - Slimtj100
Anything's possible, but I just don't see that kind of rebuild. You are essentially completely dismantling the team again. Rangers went through a makeover between last year and this year already. You would look to basically replace 6 of your forwards again, 3 of your defensemen, just to get the Sedins here. Are they that good that you can guarantee a cup after destroying the team build? Did Vancouver succeed with them? |
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