I hear you. But there is something to be said for loyalty. It's like in Football, where they say, you don't lose your spot in the lineup due to injury. Wellwood was in the mix before the injury. So why should they dump him because he got injured?
- MJL

I understand. Very serious injury we are talking about here. Is there any guarantee he will be able to play again? His achilles was severed. I'm not sure if there is any examples of a player coming back from this. Obviously Karlsson's injury was much less severe than this.

If it's a core guy, I completely agree that you keep him on the roster, since Wellwood is sort of a fringe NHL'er I'm not so sure I would have brought him back. I know it would be cruel, but as stated it is a business.

j play, sir
- BulliesPhan87

haha i know, i know. youre still A-okay to me

I think Lindros in all honesty has a decent chance of getting in tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed.

I understand. Very serious injury we are talking about here. Is there any guarantee he will be able to play again? His achilles was severed. I'm not sure if there is any examples of a player coming back from this. Obviously Karlsson's injury was much less severe than this.

If it's a core guy, I completely agree that you keep him on the roster, since Wellwood is sort of a fringe NHL'er I'm not so sure I would have brought him back. I know it would be cruel, but as stated it is a business.
- PLindbergh31

yeah it is cruel. i always pulled for wellwood. such a shame. hope he makes it in the league somewhere

I understand. Very serious injury we are talking about here. Is there any guarantee he will be able to play again? His achilles was severed. I'm not sure if there is any examples of a player coming back from this. Obviously Karlsson's injury was much less severe than this.

If it's a core guy, I completely agree that you keep him on the roster, since Wellwood is sort of a fringe NHL'er I'm not so sure I would have brought him back. I know it would be cruel, but as stated it is a business.
- PLindbergh31

I'm not so sure I would have brought him back either. Especially since they have to carry him on the NHL roster. Which I think is a stupid rule, but hey, it's the NHL we're talking about.

So I have been backreading a bit and I have to chime in on the movie talk... No more batman reboots, they finally got it right even tho I didn't totally like the story in the third one... But they need to never make another one or continue it with dude from loopers being the new Batman like batman beyond... There I've been dying to geek out about that for a while... Carry on

Does anyone else we should take a chance and sign Jonathan Blum? His offensive upside is intriguing, and I'm guessing he'd be relatively inexpensive.
- Girouxsalem90

If they're going to dump Mesz for nothing it's a solid quick fix. He needs to play more NHL games and getting a guy like that helps ensure guys like Lauridson stay down in the AHL where they can continue to develop before being thrown into the fire again.

So I have been backreading a bit and I have to chime in on the movie talk... No more batman reboots, they finally got it right even tho I didn't totally like the story in the third one... But they need to never make another one or continue it with dude from loopers being the new Batman like batman beyond... There I've been dying to geek out about that for a while... Carry on
- JoeRussomanno

I think if they're ultra careful with it they could pull it off. I didn't think a batman reboot would be any good (let's be honest, most reboots suck), but they did something very good there, and if any team could make Joseph-Gordon Levitt work in a batman beyond/robin thing, it'd be that team of movie makers. If they made one, I would at least go into it with an open mind about it.

If they're going to dump Mesz for nothing it's a solid quick fix. He needs to play more NHL games and getting a guy like that helps ensure guys like Lauridson stay down in the AHL where they can continue to develop before being thrown into the fire again.
- hereticpride

Ya but then Gus won't get any time

Ya but then Gus won't get any time
- JAKEw1234

In Gus we Trust!

So I have been backreading a bit and I have to chime in on the movie talk... No more batman reboots, they finally got it right even tho I didn't totally like the story in the third one... But they need to never make another one or continue it with dude from loopers being the new Batman like batman beyond... There I've been dying to geek out about that for a while... Carry on
- JoeRussomanno

They're going to reboot it, it's inevitable. All I know is I'm looking forward to the dark gritty Wonder Woman movie

So I have been backreading a bit and I have to chime in on the movie talk... No more batman reboots, they finally got it right even tho I didn't totally like the story in the third one... But they need to never make another one or continue it with dude from loopers being the new Batman like batman beyond... There I've been dying to geek out about that for a while... Carry on
- JoeRussomanno

Hard to think Christopher Nolan will be back for any more Batman movies, but they are a money maker for studios, so they will make ones eventually.

But you are right, these were definitely the best Batman movies ever. I liked the Tim Burton ones, but they feel more like a comic book and are not too serious. No comment on the Joel Schumacher ones aside from the awesome villains in them.

Anyway, hard to follow up with Nolan's trilogy, no matter who's directing.

I think if they're ultra careful with it they could pull it off. I didn't think a batman reboot would be any good (let's be honest, most reboots suck), but they did something very good there, and if any team could make Joseph-Gordon Levitt work in a batman beyond/robin thing, it'd be that team of movie makers. If they made one, I would at least go into it with an open mind about it.
- JAKEw1234

I'd find it hard to believe a director like Nolan wants to do more than 3 Batman movies. And I remember reading/hearing that after the 3rd one, he was finished with Batman. As good as they were, a director like him should not spend all his talent on one franchise.

Contract slots are a valuable commodity. Do you agree that Wellwood is a waste of a contract slot this year? I understand the Flyers wanted to do right by the kid, but hockey is a business, and Wellwood won't be able to contribute anything this season.
- PLindbergh31

I'd rather spend a contract slot retaining a guy they drafted (and like) in Wellwood (at least there's a chance he'll be back this season) than waste slots on a couple of the guys they decided to sign as UFAs.

Yann Danis is probably the best example... if he's only there to stabilize the Phantoms and provide some emergency insurance, why spend an NHL contract slot on that? There's going to be an abundance of AHL-level starters who will be willing to accept an AHL SPC (or PTO) later in the summer... why not just go that route? If either Emery or Mason then goes down, you'd still have a slot open to trade for another team's backup, or at worst, sign the starter in Adirondack to a pro-rated one-year deal. If the need never arises, you'd have that precious slot in your back pocket to use toward other needs.

Adam Hall is another example... they already have Ben Holmstrom under contract and they just traded for Kris Newbury... both guys are good at the dot, above-average defensively, and have NHL experience. It's nice to have a guy available who is a high-50's faceoff guy, but Hall is not going to be on the ice for critical late-game, defensive draws against the other teams' top lines.... that's Giroux's territory. So if we're just talking about a guy who can win draws consistently against other teams' 3rd-4th lines, Holmstrom and/or Newbury seem to be perfectly capable of doing that.

I'd rather spend a contract slot retaining a guy they drafted (and like) in Wellwood (at least there's a chance he'll be back this season) than waste slots on a couple of the guys they decided to sign as UFAs.

Yann Danis is probably the best example... if he's only there to stabilize the Phantoms and provide some emergency insurance, why spend an NHL contract slot on that? There's going to be an abundance of AHL-level starters who will be willing to accept an AHL SPC (or PTO) later in the summer... why not just go that route? If either Emery or Mason then goes down, you'd still have a slot open to trade for another team's backup, or at worst, sign the starter in Adirondack to a pro-rated one-year deal. If the need never arises, you'd have that precious slot in your back pocket to use toward other needs.

Adam Hall is another example... they already have Ben Holmstrom under contract and they just traded for Kris Newbury... both guys are good at the dot, above-average defensively, and have NHL experience. It's nice to have a guy available who is a high-50's faceoff guy, but Hall is not going to be on the ice for critical late-game, defensive draws against the other teams' top lines.... that's Giroux's territory. So if we're just talking about a guy who can win draws consistently against other teams' 3rd-4th lines, Holmstrom and/or Newbury seem to be perfectly capable of doing that.
- Tomahawk

I don't know if I can trust Holmstrom coming off a serious knee injury just yet. And Hall has the same cap hit, and you already know what you are getting there.

I'd find it hard to believe a director like Nolan wants to do more than 3 Batman movies. And I remember reading/hearing that after the 3rd one, he was finished with Batman. As good as they were, a director like him should not spend all his talent on one franchise.
- feelingkettle

I found an interview with bale somewhere that he said he would be in it even if Nolan doesn't comeback. Argh it just feels like there's more there for that story. Yea I know they seemingly killed off batman and Wayne went underground into anonymity but ... That's not the batman character... Hell I'll throw them a bone to get the story rolling... Kill Selena Kyle... Ill even give them another freebie idea, make it so one of the villains still alive (possibly) does it, scarecrow never got it. Watched the last 49 minutes twice in the past 24 hours to make sure of that too. It's just so doable and I hate when actors and directors leave their masterpieces seemingly unfulfilled cause that's how I feel with this. Besides the real batman could never ride off into the sunset, that's not batman.

Hard to think Christopher Nolan will be back for any more Batman movies, but they are a money maker for studios, so they will make ones eventually.

But you are right, these were definitely the best Batman movies ever. I liked the Tim Burton ones, but they feel more like a comic book and are not too serious. No comment on the Joel Schumacher ones aside from the awesome villains in them.

Anyway, hard to follow up with Nolan's trilogy, no matter who's directing.
- feelingkettle

I actually think this trilogy had awesome villains. The acting was just so good. I think Heath Ledger raised the bar for acting in general with his Joker roll. I liked him so much in it I thought the 3rd one would suck just cause it didn't have him. But it didn't, cause Tom Hardy played Bane amazingly.

I found an interview with bale somewhere that he said he would be in it even if Nolan doesn't comeback. Argh it just feels like there's more there for that story. Yea I know they seemingly killed off batman and Wayne went underground into anonymity but ... That's not the batman character... Hell I'll throw them a bone to get the story rolling... Kill Selena Kyle... Ill even give them another freebie idea, make it so one of the villains still alive (possibly) does it, scarecrow never got it. Watched the last 49 minutes twice in the past 24 hours to make sure of that too. It's just so doable and I hate when actors and directors leave their masterpieces seemingly unfulfilled cause that's how I feel with this. Besides the real batman could never ride off into the sunset, that's not batman.
- JoeRussomanno

I really hope when they do reboot things that they do a lot differently. I think if this current series goes beyond a trilogy, that's when you're going to see it start to suck. That would be a shame.

I actually think this trilogy had awesome villains. The acting was just so good. I think Heath Ledger raised the bar for acting in general with his Joker roll. I liked him so much in it I thought the 3rd one would suck just cause it didn't have him. But it didn't, cause Tom Hardy played Bane amazingly.
- JAKEw1234

This trilogy had the best everything. Always hated Robin anyway, so I'm glad they left him out. Maybe Chris O'Donnell and that terrible poop is still seared in my mind, but I'm glad they basically left Robin (as a superhero) out of the Dark Knight movies.

This trilogy had the best everything. Always hated Robin anyway, so I'm glad they left him out. Maybe Chris O'Donnell and that terrible poop is still seared in my mind, but I'm glad they basically left Robin (as a superhero) out of the Dark Knight movies.
- feelingkettle

Yea I liked how they handled the robin thing. You're right about if it goes beyond a trilogy... But that's a challenge the movie makers IMO

@Tomahawk

I think we more then upgrade at the dot which should have been desperately important to the Flyers by not only signing Hall but Lecavalier as well. These two are NHLers. Both should take key draws at key points in a game and takes some of that pressure off Giroux.

I actually think this trilogy had awesome villains. The acting was just so good. I think Heath Ledger raised the bar for acting in general with his Joker roll. I liked him so much in it I thought the 3rd one would suck just cause it didn't have him. But it didn't, cause Tom Hardy played Bane amazingly.
- JAKEw1234

The thing I didn't like with the whole trilogy was the part with Bruce Wayne going into hiding for 8 years... I know they did that as a backdrop to why bane mops the floor with him, they needed to make him more vulnerable, but they could have done it the way it was in the comic, just have him worn down. But that's not a big deal and I'd have liked the final battle with bane to have been more pronounced. I mean this is a superhero movie... Anyway that's all I got back to hockey

@Tomahawk

I think we more then upgrade at the dot which should have been desperately important to the Flyers by not only signing Hall but Lecavalier as well. These two are NHLers. Both should take key draws at key points in a game and takes some of that pressure off Giroux.
- dingo8urbaby

Schenn and couturier should contribute more there I think

The thing I didn't like with the whole trilogy was the part with Bruce Wayne going into hiding for 8 years... I know they did that as a backdrop to why bane mops the floor with him, they needed to make him more vulnerable, but they could have done it the way it was in the comic, just have him worn down. But that's not a big deal and I'd have liked the final battle with bane to have been more pronounced. I mean this is a superhero movie... Anyway that's all I got back to hockey
- JoeRussomanno

SPOILER ALERT

I didn't like how Bane died. It was to anti-climatic. He was the main antagonist for the entire movie, then right at the end they just quickly switched antagonists and killed off Bane in one shot. Didn't feel right.

I'd rather spend a contract slot retaining a guy they drafted (and like) in Wellwood (at least there's a chance he'll be back this season) than waste slots on a couple of the guys they decided to sign as UFAs.

Yann Danis is probably the best example... if he's only there to stabilize the Phantoms and provide some emergency insurance, why spend an NHL contract slot on that? There's going to be an abundance of AHL-level starters who will be willing to accept an AHL SPC (or PTO) later in the summer... why not just go that route? If either Emery or Mason then goes down, you'd still have a slot open to trade for another team's backup, or at worst, sign the starter in Adirondack to a pro-rated one-year deal. If the need never arises, you'd have that precious slot in your back pocket to use toward other needs.

Adam Hall is another example... they already have Ben Holmstrom under contract and they just traded for Kris Newbury... both guys are good at the dot, above-average defensively, and have NHL experience. It's nice to have a guy available who is a high-50's faceoff guy, but Hall is not going to be on the ice for critical late-game, defensive draws against the other teams' top lines.... that's Giroux's territory. So if we're just talking about a guy who can win draws consistently against other teams' 3rd-4th lines, Holmstrom and/or Newbury seem to be perfectly capable of doing that.
- Tomahawk

gonna have to disagree here
if indeed tney need to put giroux out for a late dzone faceoff at least he hasn't taken every single other faceoff all game long

holmstrom is mid 20s and hasn't ever landed a spot, i'd rather have hall

glad they kept him