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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
An elbow and a cheap shot on Coots.
- PhillySportsGuy

Exactly. I believe Davies/DFT and I have that memory etched into our psyches.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
Dude you're greatly in favor of putting a sizeable packge together for anyone
- Giroux_Is_God

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
Poor Gagne - always the bridesmaid...
I knew it would stay quiet over the weekend. Hoping it livens up today though.

Sorry I haven't been around, works been insane, the dog hospice has been in full swing, and to top it off my fiancee's mom is in ICU... GREAT week for me!

- FlyersGrace



it's been a busy week for all of us last week...
add the heat to the mix, it's just awful.

now it's just wait and see time with the Flyers.

hope your mom in law to be gets well soon...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
I'd rather make "John Leclair is fat" jokes than debate "When does the middle of the first round of the draft start?".
- johndewar

That's exactly why I left it at "oh boy"
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Pronger went right onto the Whalers' roster

- Flyskippy


Didn't Holmgren draft Pronger when he was GM of the Whalers?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
jagr cracks me up

i picture him turning down all sorts of offers lol

- Crimsoninja


He doesn't seem to care about the actual money. He wants a certain amount because he feels it will assure him a top 6 role.
wtfd103074
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: turnersville, NJ
Joined: 02.20.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Ditto. Was happy that it became relevant again when he was re-acquired. I also have a Team Sweden Renberg in storage somewhere.
- Flyskippy



if not for Brodeur he is rookie of the year.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Conversely, one of the building blocks in Dallas' firing of Joe Nieuwendyk.
- Flyskippy

very true my friend. although he certainly got the pens back in the morrow swap. yikes
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
So just getting caught up... what have I missed (if anything)
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
He doesn't seem to care about the actual money. He wants a certain amount because he feels it will assure him a top 6 role.
- PhillySportsGuy


After putting up zero goals in 22 playoff games, he should demand a top 3 role.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
jagr cracks me up

i picture him turning down all sorts of offers lol

- Crimsoninja



oh man i wish it was being filmed and made into a jagr-offseason montage
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
as noted...don't bother...
it's another post a comment and see a question in return
Hockeybuzz Law and Order

Bryz is lost in space
Gagne waiting to see if cap space is made

- phi1671

The last sentence should say it all about Gagne. If he's willing to wait for a contract.just to stay, why wouldn't you want such a player on this team? Simon Gagne still makes sense and a contract between 2-2.5 million is more then fair. Anything less then 3 years is also fair. I would only go 2 years myself.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
So just getting caught up... what have I missed (if anything)
- jak521


Leclair is a slob yo.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
Exactly. I believe Davies/DFT and I have that memory etched into our psyches.
- Flyskippy



i get angry just thinking about it


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
Didn't Holmgren draft Pronger when he was GM of the Whalers?
- PLindbergh31


I think so.

Guess who one of Pronger's first coaches was in the NHL?

Hint: Just about every rational hockey fan (and some former players) can't stand the guy today.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
I'd like to see some nunbers to back this up.

Regardless, it really doesn't have anything to do with the conversation. However you want to rate them, they are still more infinitely qualified then we are in players avaluations. So I don't know how a any poster can think that they know better then the professional talent evaluators who work for the Flyers.

- MJL


I know you will jump all over this, but based on the numbers, I half-believe that there are a bunch of posters and certainly someone like Bill that could likely do as well armed with ISS rankings and reading scouting reports. Call it MoneyPuck, but it suggests that the "gut" feel of our professional scouts might not be any better than a good analyst a la Theo Epstein.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
I only asked that because I could see snider and most of fan base going bezeerk if we miss playoffs next 2 years. Me personally wouldn't care as long as core Was improving and there were factors such as injuries contributing to us missing playoffs. But could see people calling fir heads and team getting blown up
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think so.

Guess who one of Pronger's first coaches was in the NHL?

Hint: Just about every rational hockey fan (and some former players) can't stand the guy today.

- johndewar


Pee-Air
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
very true my friend. although he certainly got the pens back in the morrow swap. yikes
- stayinthefnnet


With the addition of Nicushkin and Seguin, the Stars are now a team i'd like to watch. They were pretty much the opposite before that.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
So just getting caught up... what have I missed (if anything)
- jak521



skippy likes ellio's
the middle of the first round is picks 11-20
leclair is a little chubby
flyergrace is having a rough week
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
So just getting caught up... what have I missed (if anything)
- jak521

nothing... it's your typical day around here except for the golf pictures of no longer in playing shape Flyers of yore.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
After putting up zero goals in 22 playoff games, he should demand a top 3 role.
- PLindbergh31



and that's after a shortened season when he still had something left in the tank
what's he going to do next year after 70 something games?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
Pee-Air
- PLindbergh31


That's a bingo!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
oh man i wish it was being filmed and made into a jagr-offseason montage
- Don'tForgetTocchet


It would be funny watching him negotiate with french canadians. They are probably bickering over whether Jags should be allowed to have a key to the practice facility for his late night workouts.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
oh man i wish it was being filmed and made into a jagr-offseason montage
- Don'tForgetTocchet

i picture his agent on the phone

"jaromir, this is a really good deal, im serious, please cons--"

then jagr just puts his finger to his mouth "shhhh" takes the phone and gently hangs it up
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