It clears st Louis cap problem, gets rid of one of their 3 starting goalies, a superstar winger, a top 4 d man, top prospect and a first rounder. I think that deal would be ideal for both teams.
- Snagglepuss

Although I am not fond of trading Eberle- a player like AP does not come around often- if you can you get him and keep him- like Weber IMO... as for the 2nd line wingers not all would be lost you simply sign Jagr to play with Hemsky on the 2nd line and done... as for the 4th line - we got smyth brown and eager if need be...

What if it was eberle smid klefbomb or nurse and a first for AP, stewart and halak.
- Snagglepuss

Further why is Halak in the trade- ?cap space or??- I bet they would elect to keep him and throw in one of the others

"Kids aren't getting you anywhere. who's dubnyk? You obviously need a goalie. How about Eberle and a 1st for Liles and the rights to Ben Scrivens?"

- Morris

I have never seen that or anything like that.

What I have seen is Oiler fans discussing trading a small center who is marginally better than Bozak, maybe, for the Leafs best young D man.

Leaf Fan Angry.
- Jeropotato

It's pretty special.

People jump on trade proposals and summarize their concluding thoughts with a get'er done, like it is entirely uncomplicated for a team to acquire or deal top assets. Brian Murray said it took a year for Anahiem and Ottawa to work out the details of the Bobby Ryan trade.

There is enough smoke to suggest that Winnipeg might deal Evander Kane at some point. He is worth more than what Ottawa paid for Ryan. But, Kane has been notionally available for awhile. So, do we see a deal for him sometime in the next 3 months? Maybe.

MacT came in and clearly let it be known that changes are coming. Some people got upset because there were no major deals in the first couple of weeks of the new regime. But they will come.

I believe one if the super kids will be dealt. But it will not be for a guy who is on the downside of his career (Vanek). For example, would you do Hall straight up for Pietrangelo? Most big deals are usually upsetting to fans on both side. St. Louis fans would hate the deal.

If your Winnipeg, would you do Kane straight up for Pietrangelo. It is so much easier to be objective and analytical when you don't have a dog in the fight.
- spatso

It is much easier when you don't have a dog in the fight.

If I am Edmonton, I do Hall for Pietrangelo every day.

If I am St. Louis, I do not even consider the deal.

What's the exchange rate on Omarks to Rupees?
- Reveen

I'm totally calling my money Omarks from now on.

Got new tires, only cost me 400 Omarks.

Quite amazing that players like Jagr, Mueller, Antropov, Brunner, Boyes, and Morrow remain on the list for days... any one of these players could help an NHL team...

I would take any one of them... for a 1-2 year deal tho...

WTH would TOR want Shytny for??

Quite amazing that players like Jagr, Mueller, Antropov, Brunner, Boyes, and Morrow remain on the list for days... any one of these players could help an NHL team...

I would take any one of them... for a 1-2 year deal tho...
- saskoil21

maybe, maybe

It is much easier when you don't have a dog in the fight.

If I am Edmonton, I do Hall for Pietrangelo every day.

If I am St. Louis, I do not even consider the deal.
- Aetherial

I agree with this sentiment because they're chock full of guys that play the approximate style that Hall plays (I think Hall would be their best forward offensively), while Pietrangelo would be pretty much unique on Edmonton.

From Edmonton's perspective: it makes our team more balanced, but I'm not so sure that we leap forward into playoff success as some have suggested. Hall is a cornerstone of our team and we could not easily replace him.

I have never seen that or anything like that.

What I have seen is Oiler fans discussing trading a small center who is marginally better than Bozak, maybe, for the Leafs best young D man.
- Aetherial

Not literally, but the amount of people who come in claiming that we're already in a corner and won't improve without immediately moving one of the kids for defenseman (or worse) goalie du jour is pretty overwhelming. It's also not worth speculating about, because teams rarely deal the best player in a given deal from a perceived position of weakness. If we were trading a young gun, we'd wait until they weren't lowballed.

As for Gagner/Gardiner, fans do their best to interpret how important players are to their teams/futures. Sometimes they totally misinterpret things. Wouldn't be the first or last time and it goes each direction.

maybe, maybe
- deks1

three somewhat balanced lines?

Hall-Gagner-Jones
Morrow-Nuge-Ebs
MPS-Antropov-Yakupov
Joensuu-Gordon-Brown

Just an FYI, if you want Vanek its gunna cost a super forward+1st for vanek and a 2nd or 3rd. Nurse or schultz wont do it because of buffalo's already great young d prospects. Myers, Pysyk, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Ruhwedel, Mcnabb, Mccabe on top of ehrhoff.
- Djtyczy

They signed Labarbera for 1m one way for him to backup Dubnyk. For better or for worse it looks like Dubnyk is the guy in Edmonton, at least this year. Good luck.
- TheLeafsInsider

This

Its not even worth discussing getting another nhl goalie.
Labarb to back up dubs it is...

maybe, maybe
- deks1

I would totally take Boyes- yes he is 6'0" but he has had "6" 40+pt seasons- (frank)ing 6 out of 9 NHL seasons!! further he remains unsigned yet last year he had 35 pts... I know he is getting older but Clarkson is 6'1" 29 years and had 1- (frank)iing 1-40pt season in 7 NHL Seasons and this year got 24 pts... What do people see in Clarkson that they dont see in Boyes??? cause for mathematics Boyes is by FAR and WIDE the better player

I agree we are not in a point to compete for a cup but we are in a place to compete for a playoff spot. We were close last year and we had a terrible schedule and injuries to deal with. This year we have some fresh faces, Hall and Ebs just got back from the worlds with the experience playing with guys like Duchene and Stamkos, RNH will be a little late but he should be healthy, Yak found his confidence at the end of the year and most teams will give us their backup goalies to play against.

I don't care about the cup but at some point in time these kids need a win and that "win" can come from just competing in what will be most of their first playoffs. Now that is not worth trading for vanek but it is a good enough reason to sign Grab to a short term deal and maybe a fifth center.

Also Bryz and theodore are out there. They might sign for emery salary right now and allow us to move Labarbera to OKC. It is never a bad thing to have a back up that could technically start. Labarbera is a back up that we will have to start occasionally.
- Hall Fan

Not anymore... Last year it was the Flames and Blue Jackets that had the dubious honour

three somewhat balanced lines?

Hall-Gagner-Jones
Morrow-Nuge-Ebs
MPS-Antropov-Yakupov
Joensuu-Gordon-Brown
- Morris

Hall and yak is a pair that shouldn't be broken up, especially for a 3rd line winger at best

Hall and yak is a pair that shouldn't be broken up, especially for a 3rd line winger at best
- CrustyRooster

Further Jones is 4th line material...

I would totally take Boyes- yes he is 6'0" but he has had "6" 40+pt seasons- (frank)ing 6 out of 9 NHL seasons!! further he remains unsigned yet last year he had 35 pts... I know he is getting older but Clarkson is 6'1" 29 years and had 1- (frank)iing 1-40pt season in 7 NHL Seasons and this year got 24 pts... What do people see in Clarkson that they dont see in Boyes??? cause for mathematics Boyes is by FAR and WIDE the better player
- saskoil21

Mostly Boyes is bunk without the puck and doesn't have great physicality or one-shot scoring like Clarkson can.

His offense is great though, esp. vis a vis the contract that he'd get. He might thrive here as a natural center, but we're not getting a PWF by any means.

I have never seen that or anything like that.

What I have seen is Oiler fans discussing trading a small center who is marginally better than Bozak, maybe, for the Leafs best young D man.
- Aetherial

Uve never seen 'u have to trade the kids if u ever wanna get a good player back'?
Or
'Uve got the wrong mix, whats wrong with those kids? How come you're not winning yet'?

Whether it be selective vision, or you just flat out dont care, i dunno.
But for every post thst says clouts is a homer and hates on the oilers, there's prob 2 or 3 of those retarded posts that dont have an ounce of intelligence or truth to them.
In other words, alot of them

I am not really worried about the kids - as they are moving from kids to men... each year more mature... I bet they all come back with more weight and muscle... ESP Nuge- he better be eating double downs all summer... I doubt we have to break them up to perform on that top line... Either keep hall and Ebs or Hall and Yaks together... either way keep that elite scoring line as we tried in the past to break up and it did not work.

Hall and yak is a pair that shouldn't be broken up, especially for a 3rd line winger at best
- CrustyRooster

I was conflicted. I really liked the look of the MPS-Antro-Yaks line, and while much less skilled Jones was the next best winger to fit that mold of player on that line. As I say, my target was having a 3-line balanced attack which may not be what Eakins is going for.

In any case, this was just to demonstrate the opportunities that Morrow and Antropov could open up for us. Smyth/Joensuu-Gordon-Brown/Jones is a solid 4th line.

I was conflicted. I really liked the look of the MPS-Antro-Yaks line, and while much less skilled Jones was the next best winger to fit that mold of player on that line. As I say, my target was having a 3-line balanced attack which may not be what Eakins is going for.

In any case, this was just to demonstrate the opportunities that Morrow and Antropov could open up for us. Smyth/Joensuu-Gordon-Brown/Jones is a solid 4th line.
- Morris

Gordon is paid like a good third liner, but hes more of a true 4th liner

I am not really worried about the kids - as they are moving from kids to men... each year more mature... I bet they all come back with more weight and muscle... ESP Nuge- he better be eating double downs all summer... I doubt we have to break them up to perform on that top line... Either keep hall and Ebs or Hall and Yaks together... either way keep that elite scoring line as we tried in the past to break up and it did not work.
- saskoil21

It's on them. This is a big year for finding out what our "core" guys can do. Nuge and Gagner will have to shoulder the load of top 6 centres defensively. Gordon will be a workhorse for them, but he won't get the ludicrously difficult assignment they've been giving Horcoff over the last couple of years. There will be some tougher assignments for Eberle, Gagner, Yakupov etc. then they've yet had.

Uve never seen 'u have to trade the kids if u ever wanna get a good player back'
Or
'Uve got the wrong mix, whats wrong with those kids? How come you're not winning yet'

Whether it be selective vision, or you just flat out dont care, i dunno.
But for every post thst says clouts is a homer and does some oiler hating, theres prob 2 or 3 of these retarded posts that dont have an ounce of intelligence or truth to them.
- hugefemale dog77

yeah poop I wasn't bringing up a specific incident.

Just the irritating idea that we should trade 1-2 of our core players, and expect a lesser return because "we have soooo many holes in our lineup".

Again, Seguin is a league-wide joke right now. If we put Nuge/Eberle on the market, teams wouldn't line up their best players for a trade that helps both teams. They'd say "what's wrong with your young gun?" and try to lowball us.

Even if some of the posters that come in here don't know the Oilers that well, surely they understand good asset management?