Same might be said about Eager, though its a bit of a reach.
- Jeropotato

Todd Nelson said Eager was playing great in the playoffs for OKC. Sometimes it takes guys a long time to recover from a concussion. If we had the Eager of old it would go a long way towards this team climbing the standings from where we were last year.

Todd Nelson said Eager was playing great in the playoffs for OKC. Sometimes it takes guys a long time to recover from a concussion. If we had the Eager of old it would go a long way towards this team climbing the standings from where we were last year.
- Ihatebrianburke

Eakins um "restored" Colton Orr. He showed him how to change his habits and get him back in the NHL. Orr had one of if not his best nhl season. Maybe the same can be done with Eager.

Gosh darn those hackers!
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Sounds like the Stars don't even believe him!!!

Sounds like the Stars don't even believe him!!!
- laughs2907

the stars don't give a (frank)... they just have to pretend too so they don't get in poop

What a joke Seguin is. This is why people were calling the Kessel trade the worst ever? LOL.

What a joke Seguin is. This is why people were calling the Kessel trade the worst ever? LOL.
- RogerRoeper

seguin's a great player. Very underappreciated. He'll put up 90P next season.

Kessel trade was bad because they traded what ended up being a 1C, and a potential 1D which are two things TO needs dearly.

Rask trade was way worse though

seguin's a great player. Very underappreciated. He'll put up 90P next season.

Kessel trade was bad because they traded what ended up being a 1C, and a potential 1D which are two things TO needs dearly.

Rask trade was way worse though
- TheNugeIsHuge

Your post is a joke. seguin doesn't even play centre, was terrible this year, and you're calling him a #1 centre? LOL. He was a 2nd/3rd line winger.

And how is Seguin underappreciated? All people have done is kiss his butt his entire career. Even this year, he got no criticism despite playing bad.

4 years after the trade Kessel is by far the best player.

Kessel is the player that's not appreciated enough. 4th highest scorer in the NHL the last two seasons with Bozak as his centre.

The issue with the Kessel trade has always been people calling every player in that deal a "Franchise Player" before they ever played a game and acting like Kessel was useless.

Was about to say the same thing. No offer sheeting two at once. Consecutive offer sheets would make MacT a real persona non grata around the league, and again I contest he'd then have to start scrambling to lock up our RFAs (ignoring team needs in the process) to prevent someone from poaching them, and he'd have little cap flexibility when they did. I would bet in the end adding Stewart and AP would necessitate moving one of Nuge, Yaks, Eberle or Schultz AND maybe also one of PRV and Gagner.

Stewart and Pietrangelo are great players and they fill a need, but I'm not so enamoured with them that I want to sacrifice our existing core and four picks for one of them. If we do move one of the core guys, I want it to be on our own terms, and not out of panic.

It's a bold strategy for NHL 13, but not one I like in real life.
- Morris

Well (frank)ing put.

What a joke Seguin is. This is why people were calling the Kessel trade the worst ever? LOL.
- RogerRoeper

Seguin is young and has a tonne of money. He'll mature and be an allstar in this league. On top of that Dougie Hamilton is a beast and will be competing for the Norris trophy in a couple years. Jared Knight as of right now wasn't a great pick but it was still a horrible trade. Not to mention if you guys didn't have Kessel on your team you probably wouldn't have ended up 2nd and 8th. You wouldve been dead last and wouldve most likely had the 1st overall both seasons

the stars don't give a (frank)... they just have to pretend too so they don't get in poop
- Killbot460

Sounded like they didn't buy the hacker story to me. Not that I give a crap... None of it affects me. He's a tool who makes millions for playing a sport, and the owner (I don't know who he is) probably sh1ts diamonds/gold.

Seguin is young and has a tonne of money. He'll mature and be an allstar in this league. On top of that Dougie Hamilton is a beast and will be compteting for the Norris trophy in a couple years. Jared Knight as of right now wasn't a great pick but it was still a horrible trade. Not to mention if you guys didn't have Kessel on your team you probably wouldn't have ended up 2nd and 8th. You wouldve been dead last and wouldve most likely had the 1st overall both seasons
- Ihatebrianburke

Please spare us these lame predictions. You guys never in a million years thought the Bruins would dump Seguin by age 21.

Dougie Hamilton's skating is not good. Stop with the Norris predictions.

And the Leafs never would have been last overall the second season. Reimer was the reason they did better, not Kessel.

Your post is a joke. seguin doesn't even play centre, was terrible this year, and you're calling him a #1 centre? LOL. He was a 2nd/3rd line winger.

And how is Seguin underappreciated? All people have done is kiss his butt his entire career. Even this year, he got no criticism despite playing bad.

4 years after the trade Kessel is by far the best player.

Kessel is the player that's not appreciated enough. 4th highest scorer in the NHL the last two seasons with Bozak as his centre.

The issue with the Kessel trade has always been people calling every player in that deal a "Franchise Player" before they ever played a game and acting like Kessel was useless.
- RogerRoeper

He played on the 2nd and 3rd lines because he was on a stacked roster that has gone to the cup final 2 of the last 3 years.

Your post is a joke. seguin doesn't even play centre, was terrible this year, and you're calling him a #1 centre? LOL. He was a 2nd/3rd line winger.

And how is Seguin underappreciated? All people have done is kiss his butt his entire career. Even this year, he got no criticism despite playing bad.

4 years after the trade Kessel is by far the best player.

Kessel is the player that's not appreciated enough. 4th highest scorer in the NHL the last two seasons with Bozak as his centre.

The issue with the Kessel trade has always been people calling every player in that deal a "Franchise Player" before they ever played a game and acting like Kessel was useless.
- RogerRoeper

not many 3rd liner wingers with 32P this year. He had 67P last year, it takes a special 19/20YO to do that. He's a natural centre, victim to there being 127 Cs in BOS. Wait til he's older than 21 to peg this as a win for TO

Kessel's a great player, one of the best in the league and I agree that Bozak drags him down but if presented with the choice of Seguin+Hamilton or Kessel, I'll take seguin+hamilton 9 times out of 10.

It's not a terrible trade as lots peg it to be, but BOS won it. Seguin's under appreciated because he barely scored in the playoffs (1 goal off 70 shots), so people ragged on him for being put in a role position

Please spare us these lame predictions. You guys never in a million years thought the Bruins would dump Seguin by age 21.

Dougie Hamilton's skating is not good. Stop with the Norris predictions.

And the Leafs never would have been last overall the second season. Reimer was the reason they did better, not Kessel.
- RogerRoeper

Not many 19YO D men make it in the league, especially on a cup contender.

Hamilton'll be a top pairing D man at some points in his career IMO

Your post is a joke. seguin doesn't even play centre, was terrible this year, and you're calling him a #1 centre? LOL. He was a 2nd/3rd line winger.

And how is Seguin underappreciated? All people have done is kiss his butt his entire career. Even this year, he got no criticism despite playing bad.

4 years after the trade Kessel is by far the best player.

Kessel is the player that's not appreciated enough. 4th highest scorer in the NHL the last two seasons with Bozak as his centre.

The issue with the Kessel trade has always been people calling every player in that deal a "Franchise Player" before they ever played a game and acting like Kessel was useless.
- RogerRoeper

Your response is an even bigger joke. Seguin is listed as and was drafted as a Center. Is the 25 year old with 6.5 full seasons in the NHL who began play in the 06 season, currently the better player than the 21 year old who has only 2.5 seasons and began play in the 2010 season currently the better player? Probably. Kessels first two seasons - 152gp, 66pts, Seguins first two seasons- 155gp, 89pts. Who will turn out to be the better player at the end of their careers remains to be seen, Seguin already has a cup, and been to the finals twice. Perhaps before calling someone else's post a joke, you could think before making yours.

not many 3rd liner wingers with 32P this year. He had 67P last year, it takes a special 19/20YO to do that. He's a natural centre, victim to there being 127 Cs in BOS. Wait til he's older than 21 to peg this as a win for TO

Kessel's a great player, one of the best in the league and I agree that Bozak drags him down but if presented with the choice of Seguin+Hamilton or Kessel, I'll take seguin+hamilton 9 times out of 10.

It's not a terrible trade as lots peg it to be, but BOS won it. Seguin's under appreciated because he barely scored in the playoffs (1 goal off 70 shots), so people ragged on him for being put in a role position
- TheNugeIsHuge

Just stop it ok. Just stop using facts, objectivity and critical thinking when responding to a leafs troll. You are wasting your time.

Sounded like they didn't buy the hacker story to me. Not that I give a crap... None of it affects me. He's a tool who makes millions for playing a sport, and the owner (I don't know who he is) probably sh1ts diamonds/gold.
- laughs2907

Ha. I do know the owner. He pretty much got rich cause of the company his daddy started. It was a quote from a movie, so blame hollywood for the tweet.

Just stop it ok. Just stop using facts, objectivity and critical thinking when responding to a leafs troll. You are wasting your time.
- ruttager17

he's not really trolling. Just arguing for his team to be right, I do it all the time.

just telling him from an outside perspective with no horse in the race, I think BOS won the deal. I don't like Seguin too, because people were saying he was better than Hall last year.

Your response is an even bigger joke. Seguin is listed as and was drafted as a Center. Is the 25 year old with 6.5 full seasons in the NHL who began play in the 06 season, currently the better player than the 21 year old who has only 2.5 seasons and began play in the 2010 season currently the better player? Probably. Kessels first two seasons - 152gp, 66pts, Seguins first two seasons- 155gp, 89pts. Who will turn out to be the better player at the end of their careers remains to be seen, Seguin already has a cup, and been to the finals twice. Perhaps before calling someone else's post a joke, you could think before making yours.
- ruttager17

Hate when people say that like he was the reason....come on rutt...you know better

Please spare us these lame predictions. You guys never in a million years thought the Bruins would dump Seguin by age 21.

Dougie Hamilton's skating is not good. Stop with the Norris predictions.

And the Leafs never would have been last overall the second season. Reimer was the reason they did better, not Kessel.
- RogerRoeper

1. Seguin was not a dump at all. Ericsson is a great 2 way player that can put up 30 goals and Joe Morrow is a solid defensive prospect. They desperately needed to shed salary and his new contract is 5.75 million a year.
2. If you knew anything about Dougie Hamilton you'd know that his skating is one of the best aspects of his game. He is an elite defensive prospect.
3. I'm sure Kessel leading your team in both goals and points had nothing to do with their little success that year.

Your comments are uneducated drivel. You don't even know about your own team.

Hate when people say that like he was the reason....come on rutt...you know better
- OilHorse

never said it like he was the reason, you took that out of context. Stated a fact, more importantly, pointing out the value of his playoff experience, and what it will bring to a team.

he's not really trolling. Just arguing for his team to be right, I do it all the time.

just telling him from an outside perspective with no horse in the race, I think BOS won the deal. I don't like Seguin too, because people were saying he was better than Hall last year.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Came to an Oilers thread to rip on seguin, out of the blue, to compare him to kessel, then called your rebuttal a joke. Not sure how that is not trolling but ok.

never said it like he was the reason, you took that out of context. Stated a fact, more importantly, pointing out the value of his playoff experience, and what it will bring to a team.
- ruttager17

but you know what I am talking about, and it was written just the same...
he was minuscule that first year. After that he hasn't really shown up. I am not really gonna put much stock into his playoff XP becasue of the fact he didn't really have to get dirty in any of those runs.

Ha. I do know the owner. He pretty much got rich cause of the company his daddy started. It was a quote from a movie, so blame hollywood for the tweet.
- ruttager17

Ahhh I see... He's a member of the lucky sperm club.

but you know what I am talking about, and it was written just the same...
he was minuscule that first year. After that he hasn't really shown up. I am not really gonna put much stock into his playoff XP becasue of the fact he didn't really have to get dirty in any of those runs.
- OilHorse

Experience is experience. He has an objective view of what it is like, where as players who have never been in the playoffs, are completely subjective in their views and experience. How did he not get dirty? Because he didn't play dirty? It takes a team to win a cup, not individuals. Him being a part of that team that won, as well as the one that just lost in game 6, along with being with those guys and learning from veterans, makes his experience invaluable. It's not like he was a healthy scratch and didn't dress, but was simply on the roster.