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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:21 AM ET
You also lose a solid young 23 year old RHD as well though. And I agree that anything over 2 million is too much at this point, but what I'm saying is that Gillis should try to get this deal done and avoid losing him for a second round pick.


I'd take a signed Tanev at 2 or 3 years at around 1.5 million over a mid-late 2nd rounder(plus a new roster hole, and a weaker depth chart) anyday of the week.

Corrado would then become the second best RHD on the team, with Yannick Weber being the third, and imagine if Bieksa goes down.

- Nucker101


$1.5m is a no brainier.

Compensation is only a 3rd rounder. It turns to a 2nd rounder over $1.682m.

If it starts getting over $2m on a short term deal Gillis needs to draw the line.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 9:33 AM ET
With all the centers that Gillis brought in I wonder if Schroeder will be offererd a new contract. I can see him being offered 900K but he made 1,025 000 last year. Will he take a pay decrease?
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
With all the centers that Gillis brought in I wonder if Schroeder will be offererd a new contract. I can see him being offered 900K but he made 1,025 000 last year. Will he take a pay decrease?
- VANTEL


Would hate to see Schroeder walk away. Would like to see what he can do if given a fair shot by Torts. What's the point of developing a guy if you are going to let him leave.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:18 AM ET
No team is going to take that risk for Chris Freaking Tanev. As soon as a team would send an offer sheet they're fair game to all other GM's. If a team is going to send an offer sheet, they better be sure that he's a surefire talent.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:19 AM ET
Would hate to see Schroeder walk away. Would like to see what he can do if given a fair shot by Torts. What's the point of developing a guy if you are going to let him leave.
- immature_male



It is crazy I know, but do the Canucks need that money elsewhere , and is he really part of the plan going forward?
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
It is crazy I know, but do the Canucks need that money elsewhere , and is he really part of the plan going forward?
- VANTEL


I do understand the Canucks need money elsewhere. Just not sure who they would spend it on. We are so tight to cap we would be better off trading someone who makes more than 3 mil and keeping Schroeder at around 1.

I don't think anyone knows what the plan is going forward. I think MG is treading water. Get thru this year then the cap is going up again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
I do understand the Canucks need money elsewhere. Just not sure who they would spend it on. We are so tight to cap we would be better off trading someone who makes more than 3 mil and keeping Schroeder at around 1.

I don't think anyone knows what the plan is going forward. I think MG is treading water. Get thru this year then the cap is going up again.

- immature_male




Not disagreeing. I see our four centers this year as Sedin Kesler Horvat Richardson.I have a feeling JS will be packaged off

My prediction

Lu Edler Schroeder Hansen for Vanek Miller
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:28 AM ET
Not disagreeing. I see our four centers this year as Sedin Kesler Horvat Richardson.I have a feeling JS will be packaged off
- VANTEL


I would rather trade him than lose him for nothing. Would even package him with someone.

Not to sure if Horvat makes the team, also worried we might be rushing him into NHL. Would not be upset with him developing a bit more. Worried that the pressure of him being what we got for Cory could be a bit much.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:30 AM ET
I would rather trade him than lose him for nothing. Would even package him with someone.

Not to sure if Horvat makes the team, also worried we might be rushing him into NHL. Would not be upset with him developing a bit more. Worried that the pressure of him being what we got for Cory could be a bit much.

- immature_male



Sounds like because of Cap 3 rd line center may be up for whoever grabs it from within.

I also think kids these days are much more NHL ready these days than they were 10 years ago. With the high salaries and exposure kids start training at 4
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
Not disagreeing. I see our four centers this year as Sedin Kesler Horvat Richardson.I have a feeling JS will be packaged off

My prediction

Lu Edler Schroeder Hansen for Vanek Miller

- VANTEL


Would be nice to get rid of the Luo contract. Vanek would be a nice piece to add, would have to play him with the twins because Kes does not pass.

I would be open with swapping Edler for Myers, try and make him our reclamation project, just a hefty price tag to go with him (5.5 until 2019).

If they take Lu we would probably have to take Leino back.

Vanek and Miller both UFA's and could walk after next season. Doubt we could afford to resign them both.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
Sounds like because of Cap 3 rd line center may be up for whoever grabs it from within.

I also think kids these days are much more NHL ready these days than they were 10 years ago. With the high salaries and exposure kids start training at 4

- VANTEL


I know we need ELC playing on the team for cap relief. Should be an interesting battle for 3C. I just hope one of the kids don't make the team then get stuck on the 4th line. Would rather they play somewhere else and get minutes. I do like how Torts will let kids play more than AV did.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
Not disagreeing. I see our four centers this year as Sedin Kesler Horvat Richardson.I have a feeling JS will be packaged off

My prediction

Lu Edler Schroeder Hansen for Vanek Miller

- VANTEL


Do you think they would include the rights for CoHo?
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
It is crazy I know, but do the Canucks need that money elsewhere , and is he really part of the plan going forward?
- VANTEL



It's be a public relations nightmare for MG if he doesn't resign JS. The kid is gonna be a solid 2nd liner in his career. If he can't fit him in the top 9 this season then it's in both parties best interest for a deal to be made...

I personally like the kid and hope he's the 3LC this season. Horvat is 2 years away - let's not rush him....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 10:38 AM ET
Do you think they would include the rights for CoHo?
- immature_male



We don't have enough to trade for Jesus.....
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
We don't have enough to trade for Jesus.....
- chompsey


I am glad others are finding out the issues of dealing with CoHo and Co.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
It's be a public relations nightmare for MG if he doesn't resign JS. The kid is gonna be a solid 2nd liner in his career. If he can't fit him in the top 9 this season then it's in both parties best interest for a deal to be made...

I personally like the kid and hope he's the 3LC this season. Horvat is 2 years away - let's not rush him....

- chompsey


Camp should be interesting. Hoping Gaunce shows up ready to battle for a spot, see what Hunter can do, and hoping for some dark horses to push for spots.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:01 AM ET
cammalleri > booth. better hockey iq. gets in those dirty areas. can actually do something in the playoffs. and has that edge in his game that booth lacks. i do realize he makes more (6mill) compared to booths (4.3mill)... maybe calgary would do a straight swap?
- unplugged_boy


Booth absolutely goes to the dirty areas. He drives hard to the net and has no problem going into the corners (it's where he was hauled down and sprained his ankle this season). He's also 6 ft. Cammalleri's 5'9.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:08 AM ET
Of course not. But he is being brought in to battle for it. That is why he signed. I would be surprised if he isnt centering the third line.
- KOS


I think the goal is to have one of the kids center the 3rd line. It makes way more sense to have a more defensively responsible Richardson on the 4th line with one of the kids playing with the more defensively responsible Hansen and Higgins to help limit his mistakes. They also have the offensive ability to contribute with whichever kid gets the call, rather than sticking him with 2 pylons on the 4th line.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:10 AM ET
Canucks are still missing that 3LC.. and its slim pickins out there
- kneughter


They're keeping that spot open for one of the kids to win. Horvat, Gaunce or (yuck) Schroeder.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:13 AM ET
to Calgary

David Booth, Jordan Schroeder, 2nd Round pick. Keep 1 Million dollars of Booth Salary over 3 years.

To Vancouver:

Cammalleri. Calgary Keeps 3.5 Million dollars of his salary over one year. (UFA next season)

Vancouver gets a 3LC with 2.5 caphit for one year, and receive an extra 2.5 million to work with this season. Calgary gets a few pieces to help with their rebuild, and 3 million of their 3.5 million refunded over a 3 year period.

- Gullzy


Booth only has 2 years left.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
We don't have enough to trade for Jesus.....
- chompsey


Thought we already signed a couple depth centers.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:17 AM ET
No to weise. A 4th line position can be better filled.
- bloatedmosquito


Weise has been qualified. He'll very likely be back as 12/13/14 forward.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 8 @ 11:21 AM ET
Do you think they would include the rights for CoHo?
- immature_male


Wait....can't tell if serious.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
Wait....can't tell if serious.
- Boinker


Sorry, I should have put at the end.

KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:25 AM ET
It's be a public relations nightmare for MG if he doesn't resign JS. The kid is gonna be a solid 2nd liner in his career. If he can't fit him in the top 9 this season then it's in both parties best interest for a deal to be made...

I personally like the kid and hope he's the 3LC this season. Horvat is 2 years away - let's not rush him....

- chompsey


Schroeder has virtually no trade value. Might be able to get a 2nd round pick, but likely less.
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