I agree. Don't know what I said to make you think otherwise.

But if they're bumped up and start facing tougher competition.. Don't be shocked if they don't look as good as last year.

Not saying they aren't up for it, it's just an unknown is all.
- Dozzer

Phaneuf will always be facing the other teams best. I don't see that changing. Gunnarsson will be back to play with him. Add Whitney to play with Rielly () and Liles at 7.

Jays suck.

Anyone have access to the Dobber Hockey thingy that shows who played with who?

How much did Dion play with Kostka last year at even strength?
- Atomic Wedgie

http://www.leftwinglock.c...ayertype=D&gametype=ALL#A

Nice. So what's your preference? Straight up hangin' or drag em behind the horses for awhile?
- Dozzer

I kinda like draggin' em for a bit muhself

Phaneuf will always be facing the other teams best. I don't see that changing. Gunnarsson will be back to play with him. Add Whitney to play with Rielly () and Liles at 7.
- honesthockey

You are high on life my friend. There's no way Liles is sticking around. We get another compliance buyout if two RFAs get awarded arbitration (three filed) and we'll use the 3rd to dump Liles.

You are high on life my friend. There's no way Liles is sticking around. We get another compliance buyout if two RFAs get awarded arbitration (three filed) and we'll use the 3rd to dump Liles.
- gravyface

Ok great.

I don't see any point of rushing Rielly, let him develop the strength to handle the NHL.

I don't see any point of rushing Rielly, let him develop the strength to handle the NHL.
- Viktory

Word.

Honestly... you guys did great in landing him. I will not bash Philly or Vinny just because I'm jealous we didn't get him. I would have licked his left testicle to get him.

To all delusional Leafers out there I'll put this into perspective...

What would you rather have centering your 1st line?

@4.5 million, A Vet in his early 30's who is a former 1st overall pick who can provide leadership who scored 50+ goals, 100+ points, and has a Stanley Cup ring.

Orrrrr....

For just 300 grand less... Tyler (frank)ing Ballsack?

- Tee-Dot

Vinny hasn't been Vinny for nearly half a decade.

Yeah, he's undoubtedly better than Bozak, but Bozak only has 6 fewer points over the past two seasons.

Bozak's deal will get better with time. Vinny's will get worse. Things will equalize in the end.

Vinny hasn't been Vinny for nearly half a decade.

Yeah, he's undoubtedly better than Bozak, but Bozak only has 6 fewer points over the past two seasons.

Bozak's deal will get better with time. Vinny's will get worse. Things will equalize in the end.
- Leeman4Gilmour

And we were never getting Vinny; I doubt he wanted to play here at all.

For a laugh check out the "Line Combos: It's that time again ..." thread on HF Boards. Wow, some seriously warped line combos and moves in there.

And we were never getting Vinny; I doubt he wanted to play here at all.
- gravyface

And you've got to think he'd struggle here if he really is that averse to pressure. I don't believe he ever wants to be a #1C again.

You are high on life my friend. There's no way Liles is sticking around. We get another compliance buyout if two RFAs get awarded arbitration (three filed) and we'll use the 3rd to dump Liles.
- gravyface

Seriously??

Phaneuf will always be facing the other teams best. I don't see that changing. Gunnarsson will be back to play with him. Add Whitney to play with Rielly () and Liles at 7.
- honesthockey

Listen.. I'd love for rielly to be ready.. Package liles and gardiner together for a big return.. But.. He isn't ready imo.. Looked a bit lost in his first pro games from the highlights I saw

Moments of his ceiling certainly, but I don't know if he's ready yet. We'll see come training camp I suppose

You are high on life my friend. There's no way Liles is sticking around. We get another compliance buyout if two RFAs get awarded arbitration (three filed) and we'll use the 3rd to dump Liles.
- gravyface

So piss off the three rfa's in negotiations just to get another buyout?

Yeah... No. If liles was a buyout target he would of been bought out already. Komi would of been bought out using traditional methods.

Liles is either going to be traded or he'll be in the blue n white again next year

I don't see any point of rushing Rielly, let him develop the strength to handle the NHL.
- Viktory

This this and more this

We need steadiness on the back end.. Not another pmd when there is already two.

Seriously??
- burn

We might find a suitor for Liles, but look at September 4th:
http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/...critical_dates072205.html

So piss off the three rfa's in negotiations just to get another buyout?

Yeah... No. If liles was a buyout target he would of been bought out already. Komi would of been bought out using traditional methods.

Liles is either going to be traded or he'll be in the blue n white again next year
- Dozzer

Where are you getting that from? They filed for arbitration; if it goes that far, and they're awarded arbitration, we get another buy-out.
http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/...critical_dates072205.html

We might find a suitor for Liles, but look at September 4th:
http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/...critical_dates072205.html
- gravyface

but that says nothing of compliance buyouts. I know that there was a second window for buyouts after the arbs are over. But it's not compliance.

So piss off the three rfa's in negotiations just to get another buyout?

Yeah... No. If liles was a buyout target he would of been bought out already. Komi would of been bought out using traditional methods.

Liles is either going to be traded or he'll be in the blue n white again next year
- Dozzer

Really??? Not too sure about that... typically players do well at arbitration.

On Ryan Whitney...

Hearing Maple Leafs are very interested...

We might find a suitor for Liles, but look at September 4th:
http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/...critical_dates072205.html
- gravyface

Thats 2005-06...

but that says nothing of compliance buyouts. I know that there was a second window for buyouts after the arbs are over. But it's not compliance.
- burn

I thought it was, although I can't find anything concrete, because teams would have no control over salary arbitration awards and couldn't possibly address a cap issue before the compliance buyout window ends.

Really??? Not too sure about that... typically players do well at arbitration.
- burn

Yes, but if three rfa's go to arbitration that would signal that the club is low balling all of them after whipping out the cheque books for ufa signings.

That would leave a sour taste in my mouth. Meh.

Either way, it's not something I would deliberately do just to buyout liles.

Thats 2005-06...
- lumlums

Doh

Can't find anything concrete, still looking.

On Ryan Whitney...

Hearing Maple Leafs are very interested...



- burn

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