Kadri could never win a faceoff till he does he will be mired at second.. I wouldn't put it past him.. but don't think it will happen this season.
- DoctorNHL

Are you nuts!? If Kadri plays a more refined game than he did last year, then the only thing bozak would be better than him at is faceoffs. And I don't see that being a big enough deal not to put him at 1C. I'm sorry, I really don't.
You overrate the importance of faceoffs.

What are y'all looking for Phaneuf? 'Canes are looking for a top pairing guy for sure.
- gocanes0506

We also need a top pairing guy To help pnuff

That's why:

Clarkson-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-JVR

And I don't give a (frank) who plays what wing.

Bozak works with Kessel and Kadri seemed to be good with Lupul.
- honesthockey

i'd flip JVR and Clarkson

but yeah, its not a huge difference... both will be the net guy on their respective line

Are you nuts!? If Kadri plays a more refined game than he did last year, then the only thing bozak would be better than him at is faceoffs. And I don't see that being a big enough deal not to put him at 1C. I'm sorry, I really don't.
You overrate the importance of faceoffs.
- UsernameUnknown

Not to mention Bozak and McClemment aren't terrible face-off coaches in practice either...

Are you nuts!? If Kadri plays a more refined game than he did last year, then the only thing bozak would be better than him at is faceoffs. And I don't see that being a big enough deal not to put him at 1C. I'm sorry, I really don't.
You overrate the importance of faceoffs.
- UsernameUnknown

but a line is 3 guys not one

you dont just jam all your best talent onto one line.. makes a team to easy to defend against

Take off the blue goggles.. besides the intangibles he was a big mistake for the Leafs...

Career minus... says enough...
- DoctorNHL

besides the intangibles? ya ok... build your team without intangibles... stop just reading the stats sheet Urkel

Took us right to the finals.
- honesthockey

Yea, but it was Bozak that won the face-off that got us the cup winning goal

listen, i am no fan of the bozak signing but.. its become moot.

bozak will continue to centre kessel and jvr

i really like the idea of coupling clarkson's grit with kadri's talent.. they could be a dangerous duo.. add lupul on the wing.. look out.. thats a well rounded line

while the top line will have JVR as their net presence, kessel as the major threat and bozak doing the intangibles work.

if everyone sticks to their roles they will be a solid top 6
- Dozzer

Agreed 100%


The onlything this team is missing is a shutdown d man

Are you nuts!? If Kadri plays a more refined game than he did last year, then the only thing bozak would be better than him at is faceoffs. And I don't see that being a big enough deal not to put him at 1C. I'm sorry, I really don't.
You overrate the importance of faceoffs.
- UsernameUnknown

Clearly you have no concept of Carlyle, and puck possession, why do you think Bozak got so much ice time and he rotated players mid play.

That's why:

Clarkson-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-JVR

And I don't give a (frank) who plays what wing.

Bozak works with Kessel and Kadri seemed to be good with Lupul.
- honesthockey

Well see, that's the thing. You talk about grabo having no chemistry. But the only person bozak has chemistry woth is Kessel. And at that point, Kadri will just as much. And will produce more than Bozak. Then wherever bozak goes, production falls.

And no way is hell should Clarkson be a first liner.

You mean a career minus player??? I hope not.
- DoctorNHL

plus minus is more of a team stat than a player stat

its a terrible gauge on a players ability

i'd flip JVR and Clarkson

but yeah, its not a huge difference... both will be the net guy on their respective line
- Dozzer

Stop copYing me

Agreed 100%


The onlything this team is missing is a shutdown d man
- The_Vark

yup, a top 4 shutdown guy who can eat up big minutes

get a guy like that and I really dont mind the leafs for next season

Stop copYing me
- The_Vark

great minds!

besides the intangibles? ya ok... build your team without intangibles... stop just reading the stats sheet Urkel
- DarcyTucker16

He was a career minus lined up next to Sundin... clearly you are missing something... like McCabe he over committed on plays and left gaping holes.. his effort though was noted even if detrimental to the team.

That's why:

Clarkson-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-JVR

And I don't give a (frank) who plays what wing.

Bozak works with Kessel and Kadri seemed to be good with Lupul.
- honesthockey

Clarkson on the first line.
oh gawd.

plus minus is more of a team stat than a player stat

its a terrible gauge on a players ability
- Dozzer

Agreed


Phaneuf has been a minus player every year for the Leafs and no one ever questions his effectiveness.

yup, a top 4 shutdown guy who can eat up big minutes

get a guy like that and I really dont mind the leafs for next season
- Dozzer

But who ?

He was a career minus lined up next to Sundin... clearly you are missing something... like McCabe he over committed on plays and left gaping holes.. his effort though was noted even if detrimental to the team.
- DoctorNHL

yes because his whole career he was lined up next to sundin... even when he was on tampa and montreal for half his career he was line up next to sundin... in junior... he was on next to sundin... did you know tucker and sundin played minor hockey together?
PS his whole career in toronto he was a total -1... nice try though

Agreed


Phaneuf has been a minus player every year for the Leafs and no one ever questions his effectiveness.
- robin_steele264

never

Clarkson would have made Boston's comeback harder for them. I'm not saying Clarkson could take out Chara on his own, but he would've done a better job than anyone we had on the ice. I'm not in love with the term he got, but I seem more willing to give him the chance to succeed than most. People are already assuming failure.

plus minus is more of a team stat than a player stat

its a terrible gauge on a players ability
- Dozzer

Respectfully disagree.. as a player when you are on the ice... you have a job to do.. and that is score and not be scored upon.. sure you can be screwed on a line.. but if your plus minus is much worse than your line-mates than you are the problem.

but a line is 3 guys not one

you dont just jam all your best talent onto one line.. makes a team to easy to defend against
- Dozzer

Fair enough. Thats pretty messed up though.

Its like.. the better Kadri gets, the more he will have to be cuffed to line 2 to keep balance in the top 6. All because we don't have a real number 1.
Don't get me wrong, Bozak works where he is. But that's pretty much it. But to me, that's just too bad.

Take off the blue goggles.. besides the intangibles he was a big mistake for the Leafs...

Career minus... says enough...
- DoctorNHL

lol basing a guys career on +-

Wendel Clark was a real loser to....career minus....terrible for the Leafs.

But who ?
- The_Vark

who's left? lol