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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:35 PM ET
Hall-Nuge-Eberle
Jagr-Antropov-Hemsky
MPS-Gagner-Yakupov
Joensuu-Gordon-Jones

It's a speculative thought...

- Morris

This aint bad.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:36 PM ET
They are kind of interchangeable. ES time accounts for about 48 mins a game, so:

Line 1 gets 15
Lines 2 and 3 get 13
line 4 gets 7

- Morris


Fair enough.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
as much as this line has scored, its way to soft and they get beat up a tonne, otherwise we would have made the playoffs one of the last two yrs, cuz they r that good.

hall gags and yaks is not big but feisty and can handle it better

that's why we so desperately need a tough LW to play with Nuge and Ebs. most likely penner or Vanek or fail.

jagr refuses LW duties, even tho he's left shot

- DrinkOil

Why the poop did he ever want to play with Hemmer then?

yeah I like the Hall-Gags-Yaks line myself, but only if we truly do have the big tough 2LW.

What about

Hall-Gagner-Yaks
Antro-Nuge-Ebs
Hemmer-Gordon-Jagr
Joensuu-Smyth-Jones

Antropov isn't a meanie per se, but he's a handful because of sheer size.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
So...you're not in favor of the new arena?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

U missed his point completely. Moron.

He loves maximumbone. Thinks he's an intelligent poster and loves oiler fans and wishes he had more in common with us.
Is a huge fan of katz and the plum deal the city got for that arena.

He also wants to bang ryan jones
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
So...you're not in favor of the new arena?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
U missed his point completely. Moron.

He loves maximumbone. Thinks he's an intelligent poster and loves oiler fans and wishes he had more in common with us.
Is a huge fan of katz and the plum deal the city got for that arena.

He also wants to bang ryan jones

- hugefemale dog77



really....... I I mean who doesn't.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
U missed his point completely. Moron.

He loves maximumbone. Thinks he's an intelligent poster and loves oiler fans and wishes he had more in common with us.
Is a huge fan of katz and the plum deal the city got for that arena.

He also wants to bang ryan jones

- hugefemale dog77

Which is funny because I'm pretty sure maximumbone hates jonesy
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
Why the poop did he ever want to play with Hemmer then?

yeah I like the Hall-Gags-Yaks line myself, but only if we truly do have the big tough 2LW.

What about

Hall-Gagner-Yaks
Antro-Nuge-Ebs
Hemmer-Gordon-Jagr
Joensuu-Smyth-Jones

Antropov isn't a meanie per se, but he's a handful because of sheer size.

- Morris


I'm ok with antropov on many level, but he's no lw either... C/RW and this guy will play like hemsky always be sulking, about this or that..... the more I think, the more I realize... a big lw is a must... which is why we went hard on Clarkson, why we want lucic, why we wanted bickell, and why we jus may end up with penner, or a vanek trade.

Edit: right now it prv's or jones wit injury, or Eager jus cuz we may have to give him a chance, for protection, cuz apparently NUGE needs it bad
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
Which is funny because I'm pretty sure maximumbone hates jonesy
- Morris


Still, hard to turn down that 3 way.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:49 PM ET
I'm ok with antropov on many level, but he's no lw either... C/RW and this guy will play like hemsky always be sulking, about this or that..... the more I think, the more I realize... a big lw is a must... which is why we went hard on Clarkson, why we want lucic, why we wanted bickell, and why we jus may end up with penner, or a vanek trade.
- DrinkOil

Gosh I don't want Penner back to be honest. I might rather take a chance on a younger guy like Dwight King or try to squeeze a little more game out of a temporary solution like Malone, Chimera or Pyatt
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
So it sounds like jones got reamed out for announcing the resigning before the oilers.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
Gosh I don't want Penner back to be honest. I might rather take a chance on a younger guy like Dwight King or try to squeeze a little more game out of a temporary solution like Malone, Chimera or Pyatt
- Morris


yup, i don't want penner back, nor trade the system for vanek. trade is probably the option mact has to acquire that top 6 left wing.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:52 PM ET
St. Louis Blues ‏@StLouisBlues 3m

BREAKING NEWS: The Blues have agreed in principle on a one-year deal with Derek Roy pending a physical.

i am confident gagner will be resigned. don't need to bother seeking a 2c replacement.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
So it sounds like jones got reamed out for announcing the resigning before the oilers.
- HouseArrest187

Wonder if he gets the Ryan Dittrick treatment.
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
Gosh I don't want Penner back to be honest. I might rather take a chance on a younger guy like Dwight King or try to squeeze a little more game out of a temporary solution like Malone, Chimera or Pyatt
- Morris




yup, i don't want penner back, nor trade the system for vanek. trade is probably the option mact has to acquire that top 6 left wing.




It might be Penner... he really is the easiest choice, and a proper fit.
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:56 PM ET
St. Louis Blues ‏@StLouisBlues 3m

BREAKING NEWS: The Blues have agreed in principle on a one-year deal with Derek Roy pending a physical.

i am confident gagner will be resigned. don't need to bother seeking a 2c replacement.

- deks1



a solid pick up for the blues....
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
Wonder if he gets the Ryan Dittrick treatment.
- Jack-artist


Doesn't ring a bell, explain.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:00 PM ET
Doesn't ring a bell, explain.
- HouseArrest187

Dittrick got fired yesterday for accidentally leaking that Curtis Hamilton was going to Dallas in the Horcoff trade, and then removed it because it wasn't true.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
Not a big fan of Jones but him on a 1 year deal is infinitely better than Nystrom or Hendricks for 4 years.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
I like how you not only put words in my mouth, but also insult me for said words.

Oh so lets run him out of town then. When you have this many holes on a team, finding serviceable isn't a bad thing. Plus why shouldn't he get 15 goal/year a guy money. How many Oilers have scored 15 goals or more in the past 3 years. Go back past his injury and the same bone heads where wanting to trade him too because he didn't do something that they wanted.
- Oilnutz

Who in the (frank) said anything about running him out of town?! I said that I'd prefer not to resign him!

Yes you are an idiot. Not because you don't think like me but because like most Oilers fans, you haven't had the privilege of watching many ACTUAL HOCKEY PLAYERS play in such a long time, that you know don't know what one is, unless he is named Hall, and even then you want to make him a center.
- Oilnutz

I have the privilege of watching boatloads of ACTUAL HOCKEY PLAYERS all the time. I just so happen to also structure my opinion on hockey players based on their ability to play the finer points of the game. You know? Defense? The thing Jones isn't particularly good at. I don't even know where you get off insinuating that Hall is the only player I appreciate because there are plenty of others.

Good luck to the players on this team. As for the management, ownership and most of the fans, you deserve a losing team just because you don't know how to appreciate the good things. Jones has been one of the moves that actually worked out for this team and dumb asses like you have wanted to skid him since he got here.
- Oilnutz

Yeah, I'll admit that he's worked out reasonably well all things considered. That being said, I still don't like the player.

Why you jealous because he had some success? He a better hockey player then you? Better hair? Actually can do something with his life.
- Oilnutz

I can't believe you'd even suggest this. Yeah, he's miles better than me at hockey, and he's got some pretty greasy flow, but I have nothing to be jealous about. Jealousy is a stupid emotion that does nothing for anyone.

Yes I'm calling you and fans, more specifically Oilers Fans, like you idiots. Why. Because I'm sick of hearing you rip anything that is good about this team while you drink the kool-aid and fight like crazy to help a billionaire completely rip off the city, because it's good for THE TEAM.
- Oilnutz

Do you know what I'm sick of hearing? Self-righteous wieners like you who think they can prance about the internet insulting others with little regard for anyone but themselves. What? I can't express my disdain for a player on a hockey discussion board? (frank) you, that's what this is here for!

Talk to me in 10 years when Katz has Edmonton by the nuts again, the stars of today are long gone because the got sick of IDIOTS like you in the stands and KLowe has lead Edmonton to the bottom of the standings again.
- Oilnutz

Completely irrelevant to what we're debating, but OK.

On a final note, I'd like to revise what I said in the comment that sparked this whole sh!tstorm. When I siad"he's a bad hockey player", I should've instead stated that he was, in my opinion, the wrong type of player for what we should be looking for. Whether I like it not, though, he's back on a 1-year deal. Hopefully he can work on his defensive game a bit more and show better under a stricter coach.

P.S. Suck a bag of Richards.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
Not a big fan of Jones but him on a 1 year deal is infinitely better than Nystrom or Hendricks for 4 years.
- Jack-artist

This
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
Not a big fan of Jones but him on a 1 year deal is infinitely better than Nystrom or Hendricks for 4 years.
- Jack-artist




Jones sucks


HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
Dittrick got fired yesterday for accidentally leaking that Curtis Hamilton was going to Dallas in the Horcoff trade, and then removed it because it wasn't true.
- Jack-artist


Ya just looked it up.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
yup, i don't want penner back, nor trade the system for vanek. trade is probably the option mact has to acquire that top 6 left wing.




It might be Penner... he really is the easiest choice, and a proper fit.

- DrinkOil


i think i was implying i wouldn't trade a whole lot for vanek, for someone else, absolutely. have to give up to get back. penner wouldn't cost edm any assets.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
Jones sucks



- robin_steele264

I dont think he's particularly good either, but a 4th line role could suit him better and if he stops cherry picking and focuses on his own end, then he could be of use. At worst, he's an extra forward that you can walk away from next summer.
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