Healthy is the big question on this signing. Too many years, too much money, he'll never come close to that contract but Devils needed somebody and had plenty of cap space (well, at the time )
- Gambi99

never come close?

Is it far fetched to think a player will play in this league for 10 years?

XxNYIxX

I think it's been 2-3 yrs since Marty hasn't missed time due to injury and Schneider is going to have to learn a whole new conference of players. Plus east west hasn't played for over two years.

But I will say devils seem to always have a couple of rabbits that get pulled out of a hat (minors)
- special_k1074

I think the reason Marty gets hurt so much is the massive workload...he won't be working like that this year...I see a 60/40 split in Marty's favor regular...Marty 100% in playoffs (if we make it)

Dunno if it was just argumentative or what but it wasn't me...I won't speak for him
- Xnightwish

I'm not trying to start anything up, one of the Devils posters in this thread was trying to break our balls by making an asinine statement that didn't even make any sense. Unless you're talking about the long gone Milbury years, or the early Snow years when we had to plug draft picks in because we couldn't get anyone to play here.

I think the reason Marty gets hurt so much is the massive workload...he won't be working like that this year...I see a 60/40 split in Marty's favor regular...Marty 100% in playoffs (if we make it)
- Xnightwish

Nabby is poor man's Marty, in my eyes. The Sharks always did the same poop, and the Isles did the same thing last year. Marty is a hall-of-famer though and in his prime could still perform at that high end level whereas Nabby was an all-star caliber goalie but not good enough to maintain that level of play for another month, let alone 2.

I think the reason Marty gets hurt so much is the massive workload...he won't be working like that this year...I see a 60/40 split in Marty's favor regular...Marty 100% in playoffs (if we make it)
- Xnightwish

I agree but will he be happy with a reduced role. He is one of those players that wants to play every day.

Nabby is poor man's Marty, in my eyes. The Sharks always did the same poop, and the Isles did the same thing last year. Marty is a hall-of-famer though and in his prime could still perform at that high end level whereas Nabby was an all-star caliber goalie but not good enough to maintain that level of play for another month, let alone 2.
- potvin05

I think nabby could be like Marty...mediocre in the regular season but a beast in the playoffs...I think if you didn't run into the 'we're buying a cup this year' team in the first round you could've gone deep...I could see Nabokov getting you to the conference finals...don't think he could handle Boston though.

I agree but will he be happy with a reduced role. He is one of those players that wants to play every day.
- special_k1074

He's in his 40s and probably wants another Cup in what will be his last season. He's already a Hall-of-Famer, he'll step back and swallow his pride if Schneider performs up to the caliber a lot of people think he can.

Massive overpayment. Should have signed him to a 3 year 5.5-6m deal. Signing players based on potential, when they've done nothing, is a recipe for disaster.
- Scooby_Doo

i guess being the best defenseman on the team at 22 is doing nothing..but hey a canucks fan would know a lot about over paying someone

I agree but will he be happy with a reduced role. He is one of those players that wants to play every day.
- special_k1074

I think his ego will be put on the shelf for the good of the team...he knows if we did make it to the cup again he would be center stage over Cory

The mediocre defense led the league in shots against last year. It will look a lot better now that we have a goalie who can occasionally make a big stop.
- BarryB1124

Trapppp defenseeee

I meant to post this before FA, but do you think it would be worth seeing what it would take to get Fleury out of Pitt? Pitt needs cap relief and is he even their starter anymore? Or is he sitting in the fetal position in the shower somewhere and now a head case?

Harmonics deal is a good one. He's going to be 30 at the end of the deal. He's getting paid under $4m per. There were deals out there yesterday that were absurd and Healy is ripping the isles for the Hamonic deal? How about ripping Lou for 5 years at $5M per for Clowe? Or Clarkson getting over $5M per for seven years from TOR? Or maybe he should criticize CBJ for seven years at over $5M per for Horton? It goes to show that some in the media will truly never let go of that BS "Isles circus" nonsense.

The Isles signed a true top four talent level, home grown, 22 year old d-man, with a real high ceiling to a deal for 7 years averaging less than $4M per Ina league when those same level d-men are getting more than that on the UFA market and those other d-men are in their early 30s, not early 20's. the only thing stupid here is any criticism of the deal and those making the criticism.

And I think it's histerical that the radio guy asked if Dee was Hammer's mom!

Same here, I watched the cup years with the Isles and still upset that we had to play a 2-3-2 with Edmonton...still think we could of got 5!!! .....
- Gambi99

Still pissed about that.

Harmonics deal is a good one. He's going to be 30 at the end of the deal. He's getting paid under $4m per. There were deals out there yesterday that were absurd and Healy is ripping the isles for the Hamonic deal? How about ripping Lou for 5 years at $5M per for Clowe? Or Clarkson getting over $5M per for seven years from TOR? Or maybe he should criticize CBJ for seven years at over $5M per for Horton? It goes to show that some in the media will truly never let go of that BS "Isles circus" nonsense.

The Isles signed a true top four talent level, home grown, 22 year old d-man, with a real high ceiling to a deal for 7 years averaging less than $4M per Ina league when those same level d-men are getting more than that on the UFA market and those other d-men are in their early 30s, not early 20's. the only thing stupid here is any criticism of the deal and those making the criticism.

And I think it's histerical that the radio guy asked if Dee was Hammer's mom!
- Jethro09

Healy is an equal critic of all teams, and just as dumb with all his opinions. He once said datsyuk isn't that talented. Don't really know how he still holds a job as a hockey analyst after that one.

Trapppp defenseeee
- Danformo

Lemaire isn't our coach anymore...

It didn't start with the islanders fans themselves...it started with that guy that's horny for Forbes jumping into Todd's blog spouting about how the devils can't afford to buy gum and snowballed from there. Some people got sucked into it here.
- Xnightwish

let's do this then, let's agree to disagree on the financial situation of the Devils.

Let's talk hockey, how in the world do you defend the clowe contract and the term on elias?

Half of your forwards are making less than 1 mil, and you still have to sign Henrique. Kovalchuk's contract arguably cost the Devils a better player (IMO) in Parise. How can you possibly be happy with the term and dollars for Elias and Clowe knowing it could very well cost you a younger and better player later due to lack of cap space?

Healy is an idiot. Wish HNIC would fire his ignorant ass.

let's do this then, let's agree to disagree on the financial situation of the Devils.

Let's talk hockey, how in the world do you defend the clowe contract and the term on elias?

Half of your forwards are making less than 1 mil, and you still have to sign Henrique. Kovalchuk's contract arguably cost the Devils a better player (IMO) in Parise. How can you possibly be happy with the term and dollars for Elias and Clowe knowing it could very well cost you a younger and better player later due to lack of cap space?
- Isles_since_6

Clowe contract is what it is...we needed a grinder to replace Clarkson and he fit the bill...you almost always gotta overpay in free agency, Elias deserves every penny he's getting...he's THAT important to us and an incredibly consistent player...kovy is better than parise. Henrique SHOULD be ok since Lou is probably gonna move tallinder out to free up some cap space.

Clowe contract is what it is...we needed a grinder to replace Clarkson and he fit the bill...you almost always gotta overpay in free agency, Elias deserves every penny he's getting...he's THAT important to us and an incredibly consistent player...kovy is better than parise. Henrique SHOULD be ok since Lou is probably gonna move tallinder out to free up some cap space.
- Xnightwish

elias at the dollar level I'm not surprised, the term for a guy who's already very close to 40 is shocking. Clowe and Douglas Murray were both moved out by San Jose when it became apparent they'd lost any foot speed they had and for clowe especially, couldn't score.

Ryder I don't mind, he'll add to their offense, but Clowe was a ridiculous overpayment on both dollars and term.

these two quotes probably sum up him best IMO

Ryane Clowe simply hasn't been the same player since sustaining a ferocious bodycheck at the hands of Niklas Kronwall in the 2011 playoffs. Particularly in the regular season prior to that hit, Clowe was one of the most effective players along the boards in the NHL, consistently winning one-on-one puck battles to help the Sharks sustain possession and create scoring chances.
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he's been an utter liability at even-strength when not attached at the hip to Logan Couture. Even at his best, he never truly had the puck skills to drive play through the neutral zone or the hockey sense to trigger clean exits out of the defensive end, with superior linemates like Joe Pavelski and Couture routinely expected to mask his deficiencies.

and to think the Devils owner can't even afford to pay all these stupid contracts Lou is signing for him.
- Isles_since_6

please keep up, and dont read the post and reference them


how come you didnt answer the rest of the questions that were asked earlier?


do you think the isles have a good chance of making the playoffs?

please keep up, and dont read the post and reference them


how come you didnt answer the rest of the questions that were asked earlier?


do you think the isles have a good chance of making the playoffs?
- dmarsden2988

keep up yourself and go back and read the rest of my replies.

and what questions were those that you're referring to? Copy and paste them here so I can tell what exactly you're asking about.

As far as the Isles, if you go back to yesterday's blog by Dee, you'll see I said the moves we made were possibly slight improvements, and if you go back further blogs, you'll see I also said I would rather not pay out to stupidly overpriced UFA's in one of the worst markets for quality in years, and would even take a step back this year to let our NHL ready prospects (strome, nelson, donovan) get their feet wet this year.

I'd call that being realistic, so what's your question? Or did you just get all pissy and come in here looking for an argument?

Clowe was not a bad signing, it was a disaster of a signing. The guy had 2 goals last season. NJD are a mess. They should be trying to save money and rebuilding, instead they trade for a goalie who will likely walk in 2 years. (They already have Marty for another year). Time for Luuuu to go. Devils with their payroll will finish in tenth or eleventh next year.
- mighty13duck

yeah coz getting a goalie that many think is a top and/or will be a top goalie is just terrible

if by better, you mean declining at 30, 3 goals last season (prorated to 5! woot!) then good work!
- Isles_since_6

so lets base it on 1 season, a shortened one at that

yeah coz getting a goalie that many think is a top and/or will be a top goalie is just terrible
- dmarsden2988

I have zero issue with the Devils deal for Schneider, I've been on record for months I'd much rather have him as a young goaltender and I think they got him at a steal. My criticisms have all been directed at the horrible contracts Lou has signed recently.

To further add to that, in my post just above where you posted, I said to another Devils fan we'd agree to disagree on the Devils financial situation and talk hockey. Are you trying to start it up again?

so lets base it on 1 season, a shortened one at that
- dmarsden2988

nope. I base it on how he played. Slow, ineffective and unproductive. Enjoy it, this is similar to the Rolston signing for you except at that time Rolston actually looked productive. Clowe doesn't.