Major Healy is not smart enough to understand what you wrote Potvin. The Clowe contract was just brutal and Healy goes after the Hammonic deal?
- ses111

no kidding. That clowe contract is hilariously bad, same with clarkeson. There were about 8 deals yesterday I was shaking my head at. Teams that just bought out similar type contracts signed players who weren't worth it to even worse contracts. Just disgusting and irresponsible. But yes, rip on the Isles for locking up their top defenseman through his prime years at less than 4mil per. We couldn't sign him until he was 40, which seems to be what teams figure are the player's prime years...wtf.

Yes, I believe that too, but I think its more length than amount. I'm a Ranger fan, so I ask you, does Hamonic deserve the same length contract as McDonagh? Would you classify Hamonic as the same tier of shutdown Dman as McDonagh? I think 30 GM's would say no. The price is okay, but the amount of commitment is that of DiPietros. DP's actual pay is not bad, he's a discount if he wasn't injured all the time. THAT is the problem, the length of contract and the unknown for that duration, you only take that kind of gamble on players that are in the top of the league in their respective positions.
- xcheckmajor

Since when is 7 the same as 15 years? I'm very happy with the deal. McDonagh is fine dman as well. I'm not a GM but I do not see a huge gap between them.

Well, Healy made the comparison to DP. Is DP's cap hit not friendly? Sure it is. DP is actually considered a discount among starting goalies. So DP's issue clearly isn't price or cap hit. What is it then? Ahhh, he's hurt all the time, doesn't play, and he's digressed and not dominant anymore. He's unmovable because of this contract length, and in the end, needed to be bought out. Those are the issues long term contracts gamble with. And like I said, you only should take on that gamble if your dealing with a world class talent player.
- xcheckmajor

regressed is the word you're looking for.

We can argue this all day, fact of the matter is NOT ONE UFA of any value came here, nobody. I will believe that Garth was working the phones, yet none, DO NOT, try to tell me how PMB will play on JT's wing. Please...NO Ryder, or any other, for that matter. And our D, Ference? or any other there. You could have doubled what the Flyers gave Emery. How is this team making it to the floor, Ek is observant enough to notice how much better the east got, we stayed in place or possibly got weaker. The routine grows old.

Hamonic blocking shots even as a younger kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW1TzLQ_AVA

Massive overpayment. Should have signed him to a 3 year 5.5-6m deal. Signing players based on potential, when they've done nothing, is a recipe for disaster.
- Scooby_Doo

You're an incredible idiot...so you want to pay him like $18mil for 3yrs rather than $27mil for 7yrs? Just when I think Canucks fans say anything dumber, you say something like this...and completely redeem yourselves...

Well, Healy made the comparison to DP. Is DP's cap hit not friendly? Sure it is. DP is actually considered a discount among starting goalies. So DP's issue clearly isn't price or cap hit. What is it then? Ahhh, he's hurt all the time, doesn't play, and he's digressed and not dominant anymore. He's unmovable because of this contract length, and in the end, needed to be bought out. Those are the issues long term contracts gamble with. And like I said, you only should take on that gamble if your dealing with a world class talent player.
- xcheckmajor

Except that DP's contract had another 8 years compared to Hamonic

We can argue this all day, fact of the matter is NOT ONE UFA of any value came here, nobody. I will believe that Garth was working the phones, yet none, DO NOT, try to tell me how PMB will play on JT's wing. Please...NO Ryder, or any other, for that matter. And our D, Ference? or any other there. You could have doubled what the Flyers gave Emery. How is this team making it to the floor, Ek is observant enough to notice how much better the east got, we stayed in place or possibly got weaker. The routine grows old.
- Sec111

Not getting into this again. The time you can be disappointed with the lack of activity by Snow over the summer is AFTER the summer.

You're an incredible idiot...so you want to pay him like $18mil for 3yrs rather than $27mil for 7yrs? Just when I think Canucks fans say anything dumber, you say something like this...and completely redeem yourselves...
- BoBBeR56

Except that DP's contract had another 8 years compared to Hamonic
- Vukota

Oh Vukota you and your fancy numbers.

Who would know about marginal players better than Glenn Healy?

Its taking a little risk from both sides. Hamonic may be leaving money on the table to get that long of a term. Isles may be risking locking him up that long if he doesn't live up to it.

Its not even close to the worst deal signed yesterday. Under 4 mill long term for a top4 dMan. Decent.

Filpulla, Clarkson, Bozak, Horton, Clowe, Weiss, are all by far worse contract signings.

Who would know about marginal players better than Glenn Healy?
- dcb1

That's not fair. Who did a better job sitting on the bench during the 94 Cup?

You're an incredible idiot...so you want to pay him like $18mil for 3yrs rather than $27mil for 7yrs? Just when I think Canucks fans say anything dumber, you say something like this...and completely redeem yourselves...
- BoBBeR56

I think you missed the point. Everything is proportional to how the rules of the league currently are. So thats why its comparable to the risky Dipietro contract. You have to restrategize under every CBA. 8 years is the max, and he is correct, if that is the max, then everything falls proportionally under it. 22 year old promising, good budding Dmen should NOT get the league maximum, it sets the wrong precedent for everyone else. Again, you need to work under the confines of the new system of rules. Hamonic is good, but what happens if he doesn't peak? What if he is as good as he's gonna get, or worse, what if he digresses? Look at Del Zotto. Kid was drafted in the 1st round, has had some really good seasons, lead the league in +/- for most of the year 2 seasons ago. But its unclear whether we will really reach his full potential even at this point. Again, its not a knock on how good or bad Hamonic is, its about GM'ing and contracting. If Hamonic digresses, how will they move him with 6-7 years remaining on his contract? I think Healy makes a valid point. RFA's that are in their early 20's do not earn the league max contract length unless they are proven dominant players. At 22, especially as a dman, he is not proven.
- xcheckmajor

Not sure if I understand why his apparent propensity to go off topic during a discussion has anything to do whether or not he's worth the money.

Healy and the nuck head on page 1 are wrong

THIS WAS THE BEST DEAL OF THE SUMMER

Hamonic is outstanding, and so is the contract

He's not elite, but there's no holes in his game. Every other team in the league is salivating over this deal

I don't like the isles. But i don't hate then

Congrats isle fans on the BEST DEAL THIS SUMMER


Sometimes former players are just that and have no concept of asset management

no kidding. That clowe contract is hilariously bad, same with clarkeson. There were about 8 deals yesterday I was shaking my head at. Teams that just bought out similar type contracts signed players who weren't worth it to even worse contracts. Just disgusting and irresponsible. But yes, rip on the Isles for locking up their top defenseman through his prime years at less than 4mil per. We couldn't sign him until he was 40, which seems to be what teams figure are the player's prime years...wtf.
- Isles_since_6

Honestly anybody who supported the owners in the lockout should have their self checked into a mental hospital, because its obvious they have no brains.

Worst contract of yesterday

Clowe?
Clarkson
Bozak
Weiss
Gordon(hands down my choice)

Healy and the nuck head on page 1 are wrong

THIS WAS THE BEST DEAL OF THE SUMMER

Hamonic is outstanding, and so is the contract

He's not elite, but there's no holes in his game. Every other team in the league is salivating over this deal

I don't like the isles. But i don't hate then

Congrats isle fans on the BEST DEAL THIS SUMMER


Sometimes former players are just that and have no concept of asset management
- Just5

2nd
Best deal, Shattenkirk deal with blues is hands down #1

Honestly anybody who supported the owners in the lockout should have their self checked into a mental hospital, because its obvious they have no brains.

Worst contract of yesterday

Clowe?
Clarkson
Bozak
Weiss
Gordon(hands down my choice)
- Bieksa#3

I'm not sure. A lot of bad ones but I think I have to go with Clowe. Signing that type of contract to a guy that has concussion issues

- Isles_since_6

that could be Burke, no nuts, Gilles, Feester the list is long. Pathetic how easily they throw in the NTC

Honestly anybody who supported the owners in the lockout should have their self checked into a mental hospital, because its obvious they have no brains.

Worst contract of yesterday

Clowe?
Clarkson
Bozak
Weiss
Gordon(hands down my choice)
- Bieksa#3

I was anti owner big time. Instead of being partners, they are so busy trying to screw over each other.

I'm not sure. A lot of bad ones but I think I have to go with Clowe. Signing that type of contract to a guy that has concussion issues
- NYI44

3 mill per for Boyd Gordon, that's shameful. I'm not sure he's worth half that

Honestly anybody who supported the owners in the lockout should have their self checked into a mental hospital, because its obvious they have no brains.

Worst contract of yesterday

Clowe?
Clarkson
Bozak
Weiss
Gordon(hands down my choice)
- Bieksa#3

Gordon had more goals than Clowe

Honestly anybody who supported the owners in the lockout should have their self checked into a mental hospital, because its obvious they have no brains.

Worst contract of yesterday

Clowe?
Clarkson
Bozak
Weiss
Gordon(hands down my choice)
- Bieksa#3

completely agree, Gordon was unbelievable. How does that guy get more than 1.5 a year? Filppula's deal looks a whole lot like Leino's deal to me too.

On a side note, your signing of Brad Richardson was a good pick up. He's going to add speed, grit and a nasty forecheck to your bottom six, which is much needed. Very good value pick up. Weber could turn into a pleasant surprise as well and if not, he's very cheap depth on defense.

Honestly anybody who supported the owners in the lockout should have their self checked into a mental hospital, because its obvious they have no brains.

Worst contract of yesterday

Clowe?
Clarkson
Bozak
Weiss
Gordon(hands down my choice)
- Bieksa#3

Neither side has a brain. The Owners continue to sign stupid deals and shoot themselves in the foot and the players held out and lost $800 million in revenue when if they would have just done a deal they continue to make out like bandits. You say anyone that supported the owners is an idiot. Well anyone that supported the greedy players is too.