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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:16 PM ET
I like Reinhart too
- jdfitz77

Ekblad and reinhardt are dmen and nystrom is the center right?
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:16 PM ET
Having Miller and Vanek pretty much ensures that this won't happen.
- truthbluth


Why, we were pretty bad with them, no reason to think they will be any better if they decide to keep them.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:16 PM ET
I like Reinhart too
- jdfitz77


Ristolainan is better than many in this draft.

Trade your first for others if we are number 1. I hate that we are getting bad at the worst drafts..

Anyone want a beer?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
Winnipeg is a lot better than us
- Jawallstar1


Probably right. I'm hesitant to book us being a top 2 pick because you really never know what happens during the reg season. Certain players start playing out of their mind and others are huge disappointments.
Jawallstar1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: John Scott gets on a plane: 10 minutes for Boarding, FL
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
Ekblad and reinhardt are dmen and nystrom is the center right?
- JVince11

Reinhart (no d in the name) is a center. nyLANDER is a forward
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
good means. means great shot at #1 and either Ekblad or Nylander
- CaptPantalones



Darcy will draft a goalie....
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
they wont be here IMO
- CaptPantalones


I honestly have a hard time believing that. I want to, but I would almost bet the farm at least 1 of them walks for nothing.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
Ekblad and reinhardt are dmen and nystrom is the center right?
- JVince11


Reinhart C
Ekblad D
Nylander is a winger I think.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
Silferberg and noeseon and their 1st


Is like us trading armia and girgensons isnt it?

Scorer amd a physical forward?


I wouldnt do that deal
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
they wont be here IMO
- CaptPantalones


Didn't you say earlier Vanek wasn't getting moved?
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
Darcy will draft a goalie....
- rapperray


Hahahahahah made me laugh very hard cause this moron could.

Needed that ray thank you lol
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
I honestly have a hard time believing that. I want to, but I would almost bet the farm at least 1 of them walks for nothing.
- Cup Crazy '07


Neither walks for nothing.
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
Why, we were pretty bad with them, no reason to think they will be any better if they decide to keep them.
- druryisclutch

Why would they be worse? The Sabres drafted 8th overall this year. With a young team, why should we expect the team to do worse UNLESS they deal Vanek and/or Miller?
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
Didn't you say earlier Vanek wasn't getting moved?
- druryisclutch


I dont think hell get moved this off-season.

I think hell get moved by the deadline barring a change of heart
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
they wont be here IMO
- CaptPantalones

considering what Ryan was just traded for and that even with Vanek the sabres could still finish last in the division, they should seriously be looking to trade him asap.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
Darcy will draft a goalie....
- rapperray


If there is one in the top, sure why not.

But I would be pretty mad if he did. Regier isnt THAT inept
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
Are you seriously trying to argue that getting something is not better than getting nothing at all?
- Pierceme69


I'll start off by clarifying that I am not advocating letting him walk for nothing as an option. I am saying that making a bad trade for Miller today is just as bad a decision. Here's why:

This is not the last chance the team has to move Miller so just getting something (where something = crap) right now is not better than getting nothing. Making that bad trade is just as bad a decision as letting Miller walk for nothing because you are absolutely foreclosing any chance you have at making a better deal and helping the team.

IF all that's out there today is low picks and/or garbage prospects, then wait. A better deal could possibly emerge as the season progresses that actually helps the team. However, if a better deal doesn't emerge, Darcy will still be able to move Miller for a substantially equivalent package of crap to the one he could have gotten now. Is there a risk involved? Certainly. But I think it's a smart risk to take when you're dealing with an asset of Miller's caliber.

So I do think making a terrible trade for Miller now just for the sake of making the trade is just as bad a decision as letting him walk for nothing. But I don't think the Sabres should let Miller walk for nothing once the trade deadline rolls around.

Of course, my position is based on the hypothetical that the deals out there are crap. I don't know that they are. If Darcy is passing up deals that could help this team because he's not "fleecing" the other team enough, then I'm as pissed as the next guy.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
But neitherof them would have been top 8 in this past years draft...

Even the years we suck we arent lucky enough to get elite talent

- JVince11

No way you know that yet. They still have a full season coming up... Rating the next pool of draftable prospects now and thinking its set in stone is insane.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
Silferberg and noeseon and their 1st


Is like us trading armia and girgensons isnt it?

Scorer amd a physical forward?


I wouldnt do that deal

- JVince11



It's a little bit more than that. A lot of people really like Noeseon. He might turn out to be the biggest piece in this trade.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
I honestly have a hard time believing that. I want to, but I would almost bet the farm at least 1 of them walks for nothing.
- Cup Crazy '07


After today would you want to re-sign with the Sabres? Vanek and Miller will be dealt sometime this summer in my opinion. Maybe Vanek sticks around until the deadline, but Miller is gone
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
Neither walks for nothing.
- CaptPantalones


Well, I just wish I had your optimism...
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
Ekblad and reinhardt are dmen and nystrom is the center right?
- JVince11

So your saying they aren't as good as the top 8 from this draft yet you know nothing about them? Alright...
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
considering what Ryan was just traded for and that even with Vanek the sabres could still finish last in the division, they should seriously be looking to trade him asap.
- Jurco_28


I think the Ryan deal helps Buffalos cause.

Now we know what the bar is. Itll be slightly less then what Ryan cost Ottawa. So 2 very good prospects or a good prospect, mid level and a 1
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:21 PM ET
considering what Ryan was just traded for and that even with Vanek the sabres could still finish last in the division, they should seriously be looking to trade him asap.
- Jurco_28

The difference is that Ryan has a lower cap number and an extra year on his deal.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:21 PM ET
I dont think hell get moved this off-season.

I think hell get moved by the deadline barring a change of heart

- CaptPantalones

Her is the problem.
The last two years vanek has mid season injuries. Is it a risk worth taking
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