It's sad that it's come to this, is it not? Our starting goalie got traded for a prospect and the new starting goalie may not even report and we're now cheering that his cap hit wouldn't count in that scenario.






- Nucker101

Is this picture before the first heart attack or the second?

Well, Boyd Gordon is off the market. One of the guys I was hoping MG would kick the tires on.

Figured he'd get better offers than the Canucks could realistically afford.

If both sides agree to void the contract I think it is. Just like a divorce only both could benefit from this divorce.
- thundachunk

The CBA is just too long and the language is difficult to decipher, but there is a statement that says that teams/players under no conditions can re-negotiate the terms of an existing deal. And, there is concern that voiding a contract could be construed as cap circumvention. It's not like a standard employment contract in the private sector, the CBA governs SPC's. Again, I am not certain, but I don't think its as easy as hey, lets decide to void the contract. That's why the NHL put two compliance buyouts into the new CBA.

Enjoy the day guys, wouldn't hold your breath watching TSN's FA frenzy. I'm out.
- Nucker101

Looks like its a liquid lunch day. But to be honest, I have only seen 3 or 4 deals that I wouldn't consider overpayment so far today, and some of them are just a joke.

Clowe, 5 at 4.75
Clarkson, 7 at 5.something
Bozak, 5 at 4.2
Horton, 7 at 5.3

Good grief

The CBA is just too long and the language is difficult to decipher, but there is a statement that says that teams/players under no conditions can re-negotiate the terms of an existing deal. And, there is concern that voiding a contract could be construed as cap circumvention. It's not like a standard employment contract in the private sector, the CBA governs SPC's. Again, I am not certain, but I don't think its as easy as hey, lets decide to void the contract. That's why the NHL put two compliance buyouts into the new CBA.
- 1970vintage

If he walks and doesn't play here, essentially voiding the contract, he should not be able to sign another deal in the NHL till the term is over.

So its KHL, AHL or SEL.

But that is only my thoughts, not the rule.

If he walks and doesn't play here, essentially voiding the contract, he should not be able to sign another deal in the NHL till the term is over.

So its KHL, AHL or SEL.

But that is only my thoughts, not the rule.
- moondawg

I think Gillis is stubborn enough that he would never let Lu walk for nothing. Remember Radulov? Wanted to renegotiate, was not allowed / Nashville refused to sign an extension and he left for KHL. When he came back he picked up where he left off with a year remaining on his contract (turned out to be only a few games and playoffs).

If Lu refuses to report I think Gillis would simply suspend him without pay until Luongo finally sucked it up and came back.

Boyd Gordon got $3 million PER?!?!?!?

wow Boyd Gordon 3 mil per for 3 yrs.

The CBA is just too long and the language is difficult to decipher, but there is a statement that says that teams/players under no conditions can re-negotiate the terms of an existing deal. And, there is concern that voiding a contract could be construed as cap circumvention. It's not like a standard employment contract in the private sector, the CBA governs SPC's. Again, I am not certain, but I don't think its as easy as hey, lets decide to void the contract. That's why the NHL put two compliance buyouts into the new CBA.
- 1970vintage

Voiding the contract would not be a re-negotiation. He just wouldn't be allowed to re-sign with Vancouver. It wouldn't be cap circumvention because his cap hit wouldn't count if the team suspended him.

The NHL allowed compliance buyouts to allow players to still get their money. If Luongo decided he wanted to void the $40M he is still owed he'd be allowed to do it if the team let him. It has to be mutual.

You do realize that the Aquilins played a huge part in the Luongo situation, right?

I'm not a fan of Gillis's recent moves either, and he should have traded Lou for the best offer last summer, but if the Aquilinis were willing to pony up and buy out the ridiculous contract they apparently made Gillis offer Lou, they wouldn't be in this mess.
- Fosco

Lu should have waived his NTC last summer.

Um no, you don't terminate a contract because someone doesn't show up for work. He's suspended without pay.
- LeftCoaster

If they mutually decide to terminate they can.

Boyd Gordon got $3 million PER?!?!?!?
- DrChristianTroy

EDM will be more interesting to play against next year. I still think they are going to try and trade Hemsky to a team that lost out on a forward they wanted.

It's sad that it's come to this, is it not? Our starting goalie got traded for a prospect and the new starting goalie may not even report and we're now cheering that his cap hit wouldn't count in that scenario.
- Nucker101

I'm saying that in jest of course, "this too shall pass".

The point I'm making is that they would not be "ok" without him. It would/will be a disaster.

They can't out score they're problems.

If he's on the books, you do WHATEVER IT TAKES to get him to play.
- Fosco

Obviously better with him...but if he doesn't want to show, IMO, we'll be ok.

Tim Thomas is still available...

The problem with the ongoing Lu saga is that it is still months away until anyone knows for sure, and by then, it will be too late to implement a plan B
- 1970vintage

Gillis might really have a jammer if Lu calls him up on September 1st and says I'm not reporting, deal with it.

A little surprised Vancouver didn't look at Hendricks. 4 years for $1.85M in Nash

Gillis might really have a jammer if Lu calls him up on September 1st and says I'm not reporting, deal with it.
- LeftCoaster

It'd give Canucks fans a shot of reality. Show them how good they've had it in net since Luongo's been here.

If they mutually decide to terminate they can.
- KB3Point0

I don't think so, it's much more convoluted than you're making it out to be. Not legal in NHL language.

Found this gem in the Leafs thread.

yup...

but move Liles to Vancouver for Edler... and threaten Vancouver with a offer sheet for Tanev

Liles for Edler buys the Canucks an additional $1M+ and shorter term.

Vancouver can't really match anything given their cap situation - and they've been talking about dumping Edler - who's not penciled in the top 4 by some fans.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Gillis might really have a jammer if Lu calls him up on September 1st and says I'm not reporting, deal with it.
- LeftCoaster

I dunno... Might be the best thing that could happen.

I'm probably the only person who thinks this (what's new?), but I'll take $5.33 million in cap space and Lack/Eriksson behind a Torts defensively accountable shot blocking system ahead of a mentally fragile & uncommitted Luongo any day.

Voiding the contract would not be a re-negotiation. He just wouldn't be allowed to re-sign with Vancouver. It wouldn't be cap circumvention because his cap hit wouldn't count if the team suspended him.

The NHL allowed compliance buyouts to allow players to still get their money. If Luongo decided he wanted to void the $40M he is still owed he'd be allowed to do it if the team let him. It has to be mutual.
- KB3Point0

Yes, but the Canucks enjoyed cap benefits from the early years of Luongo's contract and have not (would not be able to) pay that savings back, hence the cap circumvention. I haven't found anything in the current CBA that allows for a team and player to void an existing SPC, if you can find such a statement I would be happy to read it.

Found this gem in the Leafs thread.

yup...

but move Liles to Vancouver for Edler... and threaten Vancouver with a offer sheet for Tanev

Liles for Edler buys the Canucks an additional $1M+ and shorter term.

Vancouver can't really match anything given their cap situation - and they've been talking about dumping Edler - who's not penciled in the top 4 by some fans.
- BorjeFan4Ever


- Whiskey-Tango

A little surprised Vancouver didn't look at Hendricks. 4 years for $1.85M in Nash
- KB3Point0

Sportsnet‏@Sportsnet9m
#Predators sign Matt Hendricks. #Canucks were said to be in the running.

Why would a FA want to come here.

Found this gem in the Leafs thread.

yup...

but move Liles to Vancouver for Edler... and threaten Vancouver with a offer sheet for Tanev

Liles for Edler buys the Canucks an additional $1M+ and shorter term.

Vancouver can't really match anything given their cap situation - and they've been talking about dumping Edler - who's not penciled in the top 4 by some fans.
- BorjeFan4Ever


- Whiskey-Tango

I dunno... Might be the best thing that could happen.

I'm probably the only person who thinks this (what's new?), but I'll take $5.33 million in cap space and Lack/Eriksson behind a Torts defensively accountable shot blocking system ahead of a mentally fragile & uncommitted Luongo any day.
- DrChristianTroy

If Luongo decides he wants to come back then I think he'll play great. If he decides he'd rather not then good riddance.