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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:53 PM ET
Well...

Horton and Clowe are both off the board..

Alfie is gone too...

Weiss, Clarkson, Bozak, and Iginla are all that are left really..
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl 2m
PM Bouchard 1 yr @2 M to New York Islanders #TSN
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Is Holtby still not "f'n rock solid" compared to Miller? Are the Caps, a team which just saw their 2C walk because of cap space, still a team who needs Miller?
- Blackstrom2


WSH should be more focused on either Vanek or Ennis, not miller.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
This is ridiculous. Miller will have value before or on the deadline regardless of what happens today. All it takes is one injury or one unexpected contending team to give him value. People are willing to take a risk on one of these average goalies now, when everyone in the league is tied for first place.

Does the Islanders' Nabby signing all the sudden make them a serious contender? No. Does Philly finally have it's goaltending situation figured out with Mason/Emery? Hell no. Do the Caps still have no talent between the pipes? Absolutely. There will be a market for Miller at some point this season.

- BuffaJoe


Which contending teams paid big for a goalie at last years trade deadline again? Pretty sure it was none. The year before? Same story. When is the last time there was a big deal for a goalie at the deadline?
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Is Holtby still not "f'n rock solid" compared to Miller? Are the Caps, a team which just saw their 2C walk because of cap space, still a team who needs Miller?
- Blackstrom2

We half lots of cap space and a owner with money. We can retain 50% of Millers cap hit. Money isn't a issue.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
I'd be willing to be almost anything Miller does not get a Pominville like return.
- ImThatGuy



Agree. He will get more. During the season.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Nill and Kekolainain shows why Darcy should be fired
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Nill and Kekolainain shows why Darcy should be fired
- Beezer33


that deal to Horton is not good.
jacketsfan0649
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Nathan Horton's deal with CBJ is 7 years, $37.1 ($5.3 AAV) but he gets $30M in first 5 years.

Not a bad cap hit at all
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
Clarke MacArthur looks like he's closing in on a deal with OTT. Stay tuned.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Looks like Detroit is going to get even better. Stephen Weiss close to deal.

Tad bit of an upgrade over Brunner and Cleary

- CaptPantalones

Always thought Weiss would be incredible as a complementary player. Now maybe he gets to be...it'll suck to have to watch it up close.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
WSH should be more focused on either Vanek or Ennis, not miller.
- ImThatGuy



The Caps are not focused on a goaltender at all. Holtby put up better numbers than most of these "elite" guys for the past 3 years. Holtby is younger. Holtby is cheaper.

CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Alfie's replacement in Ottawa.......


Clarke MacArthur!
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Agree. He will get more. During the season.
- RynoBull

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Nathan Horton's deal with CBJ is 7 years, $37.1 ($5.3 AAV) but he gets $30M in first 5 years.

Not a bad cap hit at all

- jacketsfan0649


he is out untiil December too...
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
Always thought Weiss would be incredible as a complementary player. Now maybe he gets to be...it'll suck to have to watch it up close.
- nfph

jacketsfan0649
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
that deal to Horton is not good.
- JVince11


Will be fine, especially if cap is back up to 70 million next year. Still have good enough cap room this year too
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
We half lots of cap space and a owner with money. We can retain 50% of Millers cap hit. Money isn't a issue.
- Smittyx36


Everyone keeps saying that, but when Pegula was asked that question by Sylvester, he did not sound like he would be open to paying for players to play for other teams
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
I don't know why everyone is mad Darcy isn't doing anything, it's an hour into signing and we all know how Darcy is.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Nathan Horton's deal with CBJ is 7 years, $37.1 ($5.3 AAV) but he gets $30M in first 5 years.

Not a bad cap hit at all

- jacketsfan0649

Agreed, maybe some injury assurance. I'd like to see you guys get into the post season on the reg.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
that deal to Horton is not good.
- JVince11

5m isn't terrible. He is much better then Leino and only .5m more.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
I don't know why everyone is mad Darcy isn't doing anything, it's an hour into signing and we all know how Darcy is.
- SABRES 89

I'm not big on ufas this year anyhow
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
We half lots of cap space and a owner with money. We can retain 50% of Millers cap hit. Money isn't a issue.
- Smittyx36


So instead, we absorb a cap hit we still can't fit, albeit smaller, and then also likely send out one of our younger, cheaper goaltenders out.

What a great plan for the Capitals moving forward.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
The Caps are not focused on a goaltender at all. Holtby put up better numbers than most of these "elite" guys for the past 3 years. Holtby is younger. Holtby is cheaper.
- Blackstrom2


So lets talk Vanek.

Vanek-Backstom-Ovechkin line sounds nice, no?

BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
How often do "star" goalies get traded at the dealine or during the season for that matter?
- ImThatGuy


The frequency of those moves happening has nothing to do with Miller having more value to a contending team than he will on the Sabres. It's also has nothing to do with Miller as an asset needing to be moved for something rather than being allowed to walk for nothing.
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