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Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
Doesn't that mean his cap hit is $2MM?

Way too high - better alternatives were out there for that much.

- StLBravesFan


Per CapGeek, potential bonuses are factored into the cap hit. They have Alfredsson on the Wings at 5.5 cap hit. 2 mil of that is potential bonuses. So you're right.

On the other hand, Hawks FO might have felt what you just said about not wanting to overwork CC coming off a short summer so they wanted more than just a cheap vet backup. If Khabby is healthy, he is better than the other cheaper backup names being tossed around. Maybe Theodore or one of the older, former number 1's would have been a good choice as well.
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
Doesn't that mean his cap hit is $2MM?

Way too high - better alternatives were out there for that much.

- StLBravesFan



Maybe, like 1 million plus incentives. Makes sense for both parties.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:26 PM ET
I've been kinda busy, haven't checked in in a while, this is is the first post I read, and I laughed my a$$ off. Thank you mr Hemingway, I needed that
- miked23



ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:26 PM ET
Well the Khabby signing probably kills two birds with one stone, a veteran backup and a guarantee Raanta gets NHL time while Khabby is on the IR.
- Hemingways


That's a great way to look at it...

Because you just know that Khabby will pull pull his groin at least once, and throw his back out several times.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:27 PM ET
Does it ever bother you that everyone else on this site thinks you're a total tool?
- darkman


I vote tool!
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:27 PM ET
I'm with you...

...my only disappointment today was Zus returning. Would have preferred someone younger with more speed.

So be it...it's only 1 yr. and 1M.

- ArlingtonRob



I thought Zeus was going to ride off into the sunset, and if anything, play in Europe. Would have preferred Hendricks or even Lapierre. Gordon wasn't going to get 3M from Chicago.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:28 PM ET
Doesn't that mean his cap hit is $2MM?

Way too high - better alternatives were out there for that much.

- StLBravesFan


Indeed. It's looking like a bad deal on paper.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
I thought Zeus was going to ride off into the sunset, and if anything, play in Europe. Would have preferred Hendricks or even Lapierre. Gordon wasn't going to get 3M from Chicago.
- howiehandles


How much did Hendricks sign for?

Nevermind, found it: 4 years, $7.4 million

They might have not wanted to commit money/term like that with McNeil/Danualt hopefully ready in a year or so.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
Couldn't we get Chris Osgoods back up?
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:30 PM ET
I thought Zeus was going to ride off into the sunset, and if anything, play in Europe. Would have preferred Hendricks or even Lapierre. Gordon wasn't going to get 3M from Chicago.
- howiehandles


Moi Aussi - I was calling for Darroll Powe at around 750k for a couple years but Zues at 1 yr for 1 million is manageable.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:30 PM ET
I thought Zeus was going to ride off into the sunset, and if anything, play in Europe. Would have preferred Hendricks or even Lapierre. Gordon wasn't going to get 3M from Chicago.
- howiehandles


I think Handzus will be just fine.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:30 PM ET
Sept 15
- fvineze


Shocker!
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:30 PM ET
Indeed. It's looking like a bad deal on paper.
- EKolb13


Habby got the same deal as Ted Danson.
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:30 PM ET
How much did Hendricks sign for?
- Hemingways


1.75 million for 4 yrs... too rich for Stan.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:31 PM ET
Couldn't we get Chris Osgoods back up?
- TrueGrit


Ty Conklin? I think he's been retired for a couple of seasons now.
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 5 @ 10:31 PM ET
At least you actually know a thing or two about hockey. Q...argh is just a bitter old man that still thinks it's 1970.
- darkman

Next you'll be saying President Nixon isn't on the job saving us from the commies! Danged hippies!
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:31 PM ET
Doesn't that mean his cap hit is $2MM?

Way too high - better alternatives were out there for that much.

- StLBravesFan


Exactly. If his cap hit is 2M, I'd have gone shopping elsewhere.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:32 PM ET
Did I not call it earlier? New offseason, same scheit MO. Worst FA signing of the year.
- Q...argh


Called what? You've definitely been complaining...but you were doing that during the finals.

It's the friggin' backup goalie.

Besides, if Khabby plays part time like he did last year you'll be calling for him to replace CC by New Years.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:32 PM ET
I think Handzus will be just fine.
- EKolb13


Me too. They can spot him with Pirri and the other kids, plus Kruger/Shaw/Smith/Sharp etc. can play C. Just keep Mr. Hand fresh for the playoffs, along with Rozy.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:32 PM ET
Ty Conklin? I think he's been retired for a couple of seasons now.
- EKolb13


And I think a couple of years before that when he was still active.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:33 PM ET
How much did Hendricks sign for?

Nevermind, found it: 4 years, $7.4 million

They might have not wanted to commit money/term like that with McNeil/Danualt hopefully ready in a year or so.

- Hemingways



Yeah, then I'd agree with that. Too rich for a 4th liner. Lapierre was much cheaper, but maybe he wasn't on their list.


Pretty happy with how Stan has done during the off-season. Certainly much more enjoyable than the 2010 off-season.
miked23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:33 PM ET
Doesn't that mean his cap hit is $2MM?

Way too high - better alternatives were out there for that much.

- StLBravesFan

I'm not sure how bonuses affect cap hit. I think they affect it the following year. As long as Khabby stays around 30-40 games, I think he'll be alright. We needed someone with SOME chops- Crow may be an Olympian and won't be able to handle a normal workload given the unusual timing off of lockout/cup year and into Olympic year
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:34 PM ET
Me too. They can spot him with Pirri and the other kids, plus Kruger/Shaw/Smith/Sharp etc. can play C. Just keep Mr. Hand fresh for the playoffs, along with Rozy.
- Hemingways


At this point of his career Zus can't pick up enough speed to feel a breeze.
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 5 @ 10:36 PM ET
Tony 0 would've played cheaper to supplement his Binny's money.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'm not sure how bonuses affect cap hit. I think they affect it the following year. As long as Khabby stays around 30-40 games, I think he'll be alright. We needed someone with SOME chops- Crow may be an Olympian and won't be able to handle a normal workload given the unusual timing off of lockout/cup year and into Olympic year
- miked23


Go to this CapGeek link on Alfredsson, who signed a bonus laden contract with Detroit today....

http://capgeek.com/player/408

If you hover your mouse cursor over the flag next to/under the P. Bonuses section, a little box pops up that says Performance Bonuses are factored into cap hit.

Maybe later in the year near the trade deadline some of those performance bonuses aren't achievable based on playing time and it frees up some cap room. Not sure.

But CapGeek knows the basics of cap hit and performance bonuses better than any of us do. So I have to say Khabby is going to show up at $2 mil once they add him to the roster.
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