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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
I'm not trying to fight about FA. What I wanted as a fan was solid movements to sure up the team. Things like not getting Schneider or Ryan. Things that will drastically improve a team not only on the ice but also with the league, their reputation, their own fans who are always skeptical because they play with the least amount of money year in and year out.
I'm not jumping off a bridge here. There is an entire summer. It just looks from the naked eye, the Isles lose pieces and they filled them with more crap pieces.
I have no idea what their plan is. No idea what direction they are looking to, I just feel after watching these last few weeks, a lot has gone by that I felt the Islanders should have been in on. I paid good money for season tix and was finally happy with the result last season. But, I said to my buddy, I want to wait this year before renewing because I want to see if they jump in and go after trades, FA, whatever to make that splash to move forward or do they just ride the wave they were on and coast into next season. They have a crap ton of pieces, I just hope they use them before someone realizes 1/2 of these pieces are worthless.

- brodydog29


after six years of drafting prospects and signing relatively inexpensive fa's, and picking up some bargins on waivers, you don't know what their plan is? LOL.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
looks like 1 of 2 have signed elsewhere... Jesee Joensuu two year deal with Oilers.

get that location box ready!!

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



they'll be joking in EDM about Jesse's production, dubbing it "Colder than a JJ's Witchtits"
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:30 PM ET
quoted your post:


who else was available as a UFA when noon est hit? Poulin/Nilsson need to play more than 10 games to get an idea of what we have.

Point out where I'm incorrect and I'll own it. And calm the hell down, it's a discussion, not a personal attack.

- Isles_since_6


Quoted what? Your not even on topic.

What the hell has that got to do with me not wanting to playing prospects??????????

Your %$^$ obsessed.



brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:30 PM ET
after six years of drafting prospects and signing relatively inexpensive fa's, and picking up some bargins on waivers, you don't know what their plan is? LOL.
- Isles_since_6

Is that their ultimate plan? To pile draft picks and waivers for the entire tenure of Snow and Wang???
Because if it is, then we are wasting our time and money.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
Is that their ultimate plan. To pile draft picks and waivers for the entire tenure of Snow and Wang???
Because if it is, then we are wasting our time and money.

- brodydog29



you're like talking to a brick. They're developing from within, making fairly safe trades to shore up positions of weakness and picking up players on safe contracts. We're not cup contenders yet, and one or two stupidly overpriced ufas aren't going to make us one.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
Its only 310 on July 5th and I'm already disappointed. I knew/know they wouldn't spend the necessary money on free agents but I'd hoped Snow would part with some assets in a trade for our 3 glaring weaknesses. What's it going to take? Brought back nabby for a year and signed some scrub. Great. What do u do for an encore Garth?

Turn off the light.

- Mancalledsting


Well, he's been busy all day signing Hammer. It was a tough process, Hammer demanding unlimited dental, free from Obamacare... Garth had to overpay on that one. Charles not happy.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
Quoted what? Your not even on topic.

What the hell has that got to do with me not wanting to playing prospects??????????

Your %$^$ obsessed.

- SCLI


How are Nilsson and Poulin going to play if you don't give them a chance? Nabby is a stop gap to play 50 games and the kids will play the rest. If there's an issue, I'm sure at that point he'll look to fix it, much like when he grabbed Montoya the one year everyone fell in love with the guy.

You're not reading the answers and just reacting to what you think I'm saying.
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
you're like talking to a brick. They're developing from within, making fairly safe trades to shore up positions of weakness and picking up players on safe contracts. We're not cup contenders yet, and one or two stupidly overpriced ufas aren't going to make us one.
- Isles_since_6

Look in the mirror smartass. UFAs is not the point of this meaningless conversation
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:35 PM ET
Look in the mirror smartass. UFAs is not the point of this meaningless conversation
- brodydog29


there's a whole summer to make trades there, chicken little.
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
there's a whole summer to make trades there, chicken little.
- Isles_since_6

As was already stated... Love you too pumpkin
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
you're like talking to a brick. They're developing from within, making fairly safe trades to shore up positions of weakness and picking up players on safe contracts. We're not cup contenders yet, and one or two stupidly overpriced ufas aren't going to make us one.
- Isles_since_6


Most (and I say most because I haven't read EVERY story out there) of the press disagree with you 100%.

Not on the overpayment part but its been said repeatedly the Isles are only a few key pieces away from being serious contenders.

But we won't be contenders with a GM & Coach who are more like pretenders at what they do.

Filppula, Bobby Ryan, Seguin, all TRADED today. Alfie to Detroit. Horton to CLB
I'd say any two of those five would have SERIOUSLY improved this team.

Guess my vacation from giving Garth his due diligence is over.

He sucks.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:41 PM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
Travis Hamonic on his new deal: "We're building something special with the #Isles. I would never have signed this long...

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
"... if I didn't truly believe that. Seven years is a long time -- to me, that's enough time to win a couple Stanley Cups." #Isles

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
More Hamonic: "There's all sorts of talk out there, but I was never looking to hit the jackpot. This is where I want to be." #Isles
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:42 PM ET
Most (and I say most because I haven't read EVERY story out there) of the press disagree with you 100%.

Not on the overpayment part but its been said repeatedly the Isles are only a few key pieces away from being serious contenders.

But we won't be contenders with a GM & Coach who are more like pretenders at what they do.

Filppula, Bobby Ryan, Seguin, all TRADED today. Alfie to Detroit. Horton to CLB
I'd say any two of those five would have SERIOUSLY improved this team.

Guess my vacation from giving Garth his due diligence is over.

He sucks.

- jmo16


So far... So Good!!!

You must have missed last season...
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:44 PM ET
So far... So Good!!!
- jimmc7722



Actually, I caught a peek of Garth's diary.
You should see his plan for 2018-2019. I'm PUMPED!

Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:45 PM ET
Most (and I say most because I haven't read EVERY story out there) of the press disagree with you 100%.

Not on the overpayment part but its been said repeatedly the Isles are only a few key pieces away from being serious contenders.

But we won't be contenders with a GM & Coach who are more like pretenders at what they do.

Filppula, Bobby Ryan, Seguin, all TRADED today. Alfie to Detroit. Horton to CLB
I'd say any two of those five would have SERIOUSLY improved this team.

Guess my vacation from giving Garth his due diligence is over.

He sucks.

- jmo16


*sigh*.

filppula was a 5 year 25 mil signing as a ufa. Segiun brought back 3 young prospects plus Erickson, Bobby Ryan would have cost us Strome plus. Alfie wasn't going to sign here as a UFA and CBJ bought 7 years of Horton with a big risk of concussions at a huge dollar amount.

Do you think we had the pieces to give up in the Seguin trade or Ryan trade? maybe, would it make us better? I don't know.

I certainly am not going to bury Snow because Horton got massive money elsewhere and Alfie wanted to go to Detroit. Boston tried to sign him and failed, what chance did we have?

It's not NHL 13, you can't just force these guys to sign and signing bad contracts leads to losing good players off your roster 2-3 years later when you don't have the money to resign them. Our owner is cheap and we have an internal budget that's right around the floor. Keep blaming Snow.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
Actually, I caught a peek of Garth's diary.
You should see his plan for 2018-2019. I'm PUMPED!


- jmo16



2nd Cup Parade!!!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
Damien Brunner testing the free agent market...
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
2nd Cup Parade!!!
- jimmc7722


He showed you TOO?!?!?!?
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:52 PM ET
Quote from Hamonic:

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 10m
"... if I didn't truly believe that. Seven years is a long time -- to me, that's enough time to win a couple Stanley Cups." #Isles
Yea right...if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you...wouldn't be suprised if the Islanders are a top 5 entry draft team again...they should have gotten Scuderi and went for Ryan...and that's it...Who are the tops picks in next year's draft...I've had it with Snow...
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Quote from Hamonic:

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 10m
"... if I didn't truly believe that. Seven years is a long time -- to me, that's enough time to win a couple Stanley Cups." #Isles
Yea right...if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you...wouldn't be suprised if the Islanders are a top 5 entry draft team again...they should have gotten Scuderi and went for Ryan...and that's it...Who are the tops picks in next year's draft...I've had it with Snow...

- kear20


Considering in a couple of years they will be playing in the shadow of the Brooklyn Bridge but I'm sure he's planning to win at least one before they leave NVMC.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:56 PM ET
*sigh*.

filppula was a 5 year 25 mil signing as a ufa. Segiun brought back 3 young prospects plus Erickson, Bobby Ryan would have cost us Strome plus. Alfie wasn't going to sign here as a UFA and CBJ bought 7 years of Horton with a big risk of concussions at a huge dollar amount.

Do you think we had the pieces to give up in the Seguin trade or Ryan trade? maybe, would it make us better? I don't know.

I certainly am not going to bury Snow because Horton got massive money elsewhere and Alfie wanted to go to Detroit. Boston tried to sign him and failed, what chance did we have?

It's not NHL 13, you can't just force these guys to sign and signing bad contracts leads to losing good players off your roster 2-3 years later when you don't have the money to resign them. Our owner is cheap and we have an internal budget that's right around the floor. Keep blaming Snow.

- Isles_since_6



Yes, we have the assets, just not the person who can get the deal done.
This is how team's do business in this league.
Garth is not smarter than everyone. And it shows.

Looking forward to tomorrow's big news of Josh Bailey resigning.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
Considering in a couple of years they will be playing in the shadow of the Brooklyn Bridge but I'm sure he's planning to win at least one before they leave NVMC.
- Fan101


I love the spirit from Travis but let us see the team built of last year and win a playoff round first.
BattleLevel
New York Islanders
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jul 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
Scuderi and Ryan could have brought this team to the next level. JT needs a better supporting cast, Ryan would have been perfect....even Seguin would have made sense. We need another scoring punch on the top six.....and Snow should still want another threat on defense...Im still hopeful he has a trade in the works.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 5 @ 5:06 PM ET
Yes, we have the assets, just not the person who can get the deal done.
This is how team's do business in this league.
Garth is not smarter than everyone. And it shows.

Looking forward to tomorrow's big news of Josh Bailey resigning.

- jmo16


anaheim looks like they wanted a young roster player, a solid prospect and a 1st. Ryan under contract for 2 more years. So we'd likely have to give up Okposo, Strome and a 1st. Does that make us better? I don't like that deal to be honest.

Teams sometimes don't want players you're offering, players sometimes want to play in a certain city, sometimes want a hell of a lot more money than you'd want to give.

There are a ton of teams out there today who have not cashed in on a ufa or a big trade. Not everyone gets one. Would I like to see something? Not sure TBH. I think I'd rather see Donovan, Strome and Nelson get a shot next year and see where we're at.

Not saying I wouldn't like Ryan, I'm saying I'm not sure we're at the point where one guy like that puts us into the playoffs or a cup contender, and I'm sick of watching our prospects develop somewhere else.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 5 @ 5:06 PM ET
The contracts we're seeing handed out today are borderline assinine. Clowes contract is a joke. As for the trade, unless you were willing to part with Strome, Nelson and a 1st, there was no need to pull the trigger.
This team will be better simply by adding more of our prospectsto the mix. Bouchard and Clutterbuck are solid additions. More importently, we're doing this without over committing financially.

Xxkeaner17xX
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