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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 5 @ 11:04 PM ET
He's running his team like a video game- sign everyone to big contracts.

I'm too lazy to actually google, but he has- what?- 40 mil spread through 4 players? And he's a great GM? Cmon....

- Giroux_Is_God


$32,400,000 in 5 players - Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Martin, and Neal, or about 50% of this year's cap dollars. Yeah, Shero is a magic man. The proof is the cup they won this past season after trading for Morrow, Iginla and Murray.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:04 PM ET
yeah, and even the trapping Devils gave in & signed Kovalchuk, I don't know who's more confusing in their team decisions this summer Nashville or Boston
- puckhead17

I still cant believe Nashville didn't sell Jones to the highest bidder at the draft. And as I mentioned on draft day, I'm sure Weber wasn't too happy about it either. How many times does he have to say he wants significant talent added to the forward lines?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:05 PM ET
I'll drink, wait, I mean I am drinking to that

a 4th? you mean a 7th?

- puckhead17


A 7th will do. But a 4th would be amazing!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:05 PM ET
I still cant believe Nashville didn't sell Jones to the highest bidder at the draft. And as I mentioned on draft day, I'm sure Weber wasn't too happy about it either. How many times does he have to say he wants significant talent added to the forward lines?
- hereticpride


He can say it as often as he wants, he's stuck there, unless he holds out in a demand to get traded.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:07 PM ET
I still cant believe Nashville didn't sell Jones to the highest bidder at the draft. And as I mentioned on draft day, I'm sure Weber wasn't too happy about it either. How many times does he have to say he wants significant talent added to the forward lines?
- hereticpride


Once more this summer at least, Grabovski I think is still available.
at least it's offense

Remember when Suter left for that big $$$, Poile had said, I believe that he offered the same $$$, so, why not offer it to a #1 center, or a power forward? or something up front?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:07 PM ET
He can say it as often as he wants, he's stuck there, unless he holds out in a demand to get traded.
- Jsaquella

Well we al know he signed with the intent to come here. Odd situation down there.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:08 PM ET
Well we al know he signed with the intent to come here. Odd situation down there.
- hereticpride


I'm so glad they matched. I'd love to have Weber, but that contract is terrible under the new CBA
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:08 PM ET
I'm so glad they matched. I'd love to have Weber, but that contract is terrible under the new CBA
- Jsaquella

Wait till you see this new Pietrangelo deal
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:09 PM ET
He can say it as often as he wants, he's stuck there, unless he holds out in a demand to get traded.
- Jsaquella



Weber got paid, his agent did his job. Saw the possible landscape change coming in a new CBA and treated his client as a UFA even though he was restricted. Weber may complain at the rink, but reviewing his bank account on-line should help him cope.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:09 PM ET
A 7th will do. But a 4th would be amazing!!

- MBFlyerfan


One more Molson & I will bite on that 4th
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:09 PM ET
Wait till you see this new Pietrangelo deal
- Winning


It will be better than Weber's. Can't be longer than 8 years, and be anywhere near as front loaded. No cap recapture possibility with Pietrangelo, either.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:10 PM ET
Once more this summer at least, Grabovski I think is still available.
at least it's offense

- puckhead17

I'm still confused as to why they didn't go after Carter either time he was on the block. Or at the very least trade down with Carolina, take Lindholm as your future franchise Center and get a little something extra out of Carolina.

There's also the letting Blum walk for nothing situation....

Poile. I'm not a fan.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:10 PM ET
Wait till you see this new Pietrangelo deal
- Winning


I can't wait to see what Rask signs for!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:11 PM ET
I'm so glad they matched. I'd love to have Weber, but that contract is terrible under the new CBA
- Jsaquella

Agreed. As fans we didn't see that aspect coming. I'm sure Homer and Poile knew that could be an issue going in.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:11 PM ET
I'm so glad they matched. I'd love to have Weber, but that contract is terrible under the new CBA
- Jsaquella


When you have a chance to acquire the best player in the league (at least at his position), you agree to overpay.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:12 PM ET
I can't wait to see what Rask signs for!
- puckhead17


Gotta figure Bob and Bernier helped him out.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:13 PM ET
I'm still confused as to why they didn't go after Carter either time he was on the block. Or at the very least trade down with Carolina, take Lindholm as your future franchise Center and get a little something extra out of Carolina.

There's also the letting Blum walk for nothing situation....

Poile. I'm not a fan.

- hereticpride


I forgot about the Blum walking thing, I used to root a little for the way Poile ran things, very hard job being competitive with the financial restraints, but now it seems he has no interest in offense at all, baffling!!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 5 @ 11:15 PM ET
Nah. I'm really a Rangers fan that watches 75+ Flyers games a year.
- PLindbergh31

I knew it!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:15 PM ET
Agreed. As fans we didn't see that aspect coming. I'm sure Homer and Poile knew that could be an issue going in.
- hereticpride


I'm sure the GMs figured the loophole of front loading contracts would be closed, but I find it unlikely GMs thought the league would in turn punish teams for contracts they deemed as acceptable. It really is kind of a bush league move.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:15 PM ET
When you have a chance to acquire the best player in the league (at least at his position), you agree to overpay.
- jmatchett383


Agreed. Under the last CBA it was workable. But basically he's on an over 35 deal. Say he destroys his knee in a year or two. If he retires, they have 12 years of a $1.67mm cap penalty to deal with.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:16 PM ET
I forgot about the Blum walking thing, I used to root a little for the way Poile ran things, very hard job being competitive with the financial restraints, but now it seems he has no interest in offense at all, baffling!!
- puckhead17

I honestly have no idea why they didn't move down a spot for Lindholm. Then you have something to build around on offense for once.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:16 PM ET
A 7th will do. But a 4th would be amazing!!

- MBFlyerfan


Once he clears you trade him for a conditional pick.

a 2nd if 60 games, 1000+ minutes
a 3rd if 45 games, 800 minutes
...
5th or 6th if he plays little
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:16 PM ET
Gotta figure Bob and Bernier helped him out.
- jmatchett383


He's getting a Rinne wallet for sure
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:17 PM ET
Agreed. As fans we didn't see that aspect coming. I'm sure Homer and Poile knew that could be an issue going in.
- hereticpride


doubt they expected punishment for legal contracts.

It's like getting a ticket on a highway for doing 65 before they drop the limit to 45
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:17 PM ET
Agreed. Under the last CBA it was workable. But basically he's on an over 35 deal. Say he destroys his knee in a year or two. If he retires, they have 12 years of a $1.67mm cap penalty to deal with.
- Jsaquella


To me, it's a risk worth taking. If you could have had Crosby for 14 years at $8M, you take it, you don't worry about all the possible negatives.
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