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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:13 PM ET
We've had this conversation many times before. No it doesn't stop it from happening. But someone is going to have to stand up for teammates and fight on occasion. Montreal doesn't want Prust doing it as much as he had to last Season. 10 fighting majors in 48 games. That's too much. That's why they acquired Parros. And that's why the Flyers have Rosehill.
- MJL


Rosehill signing doesn't bother me bc of the price. Doesn't hurt the club.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:13 PM ET
Thank goodness for the new CBA and the lowering of the cap. Maybe it will finally stop all of these absurd signings.
- 77rams


The last lockout will solve absolutely nothing.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 5 @ 8:14 PM ET
CapGeek ‏@capgeek 49s

The #Bruins have $5.2M in cap space with Iginla signed, factoring in the bonus cushion. Rask left to sign. http://www.capgeek.com/bruins/
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:14 PM ET
When he hit Free Agency!
- MJL

That's terrible. He's a 3.5m per year play IMO.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:15 PM ET
I don't doubt it -- desperation of continuous losing in a city where players don't want to go is just as inflationary to salaries as large-market teams.

I'm always amazed at how people curb-stomp the Flyers for deals they make when maybe the single-biggest salary escalator in the last CBA was Edmonton offer-sheeting Thomas Vanek.

- AllInForFlyers


The Flyers got crucified for the Lecavalier and Streit deals. Same people praised Dupuis and Iginla moves and were fine with Clarkson, Horton and Clowe.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:15 PM ET
Thank goodness for the new CBA and the lowering of the cap. Maybe it will finally stop all of these absurd signings.
- 77rams


Don't worry about it. Salaries for top players have not gone up! It's just your imagination.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:15 PM ET
The last lockout will solve absolutely nothing.
- Jsaquella


Maybe I should've added a to my last observation.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
Don't worry about it. Salaries for top players have not gone up! It's just your imagination.
- MJL

If that were only the case. We would be loaded with talent at a cheap price.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:17 PM ET
Maybe I should've added a to my last observation.
- 77rams


I knew you were being facetious...just still pisses me off. The lockout and artificial cap reduction will hurt the Flyers for a year and then see the cap jump like Spudd Webb within a few years
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:18 PM ET
The Flyers got crucified for the Lecavalier and Streit deals. Same people praised Dupuis and Iginla moves and were fine with Clarkson, Horton and Clowe.
- Jsaquella

Im fine with the Vinny contract. Streit was not good. Other contract you mention are terrible. Of course every UFA season we say the same thing. I can't believe they paid so and so that much. That's just the UFA game.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
Im fi e with the Vinny contract. Streit was not good. Other contract you mention are terrible. Of course every UFA season we say the same thing. I can't believe they paid so and so that much. That's just the UFA game.
- coffee junkie

how was streit bad? has he played a game yet?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
@WojYahooNBA: Y! Sources: Houston trades 2012 first-round pick Royce White to the Philadelphia 76ers.

Hinkie at it again. Great job! Back to hockey.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
CapGeek ‏@capgeek 49s

The #Bruins have $5.2M in cap space with Iginla signed, factoring in the bonus cushion. Rask left to sign. http://www.capgeek.com/bruins/

- aosplayo

Apparently the deal is up to 6mil in bonuses. Not a 6mil cap hit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:20 PM ET
Apparently the deal is up to 6mil in bonuses. Not a 6mil cap hit.
- hereticpride


If he makes the bonuses it will be
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:21 PM ET
@WojYahooNBA: Y! Sources: Houston trades 2012 first-round pick Royce White to the Philadelphia 76ers.

Hinkie at it again. Great job! Back to hockey.

- stveshdy


Didn;t he have some sort of emotional or mental breakdown?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
@WojYahooNBA: Y! Sources: Houston trades 2012 first-round pick Royce White to the Philadelphia 76ers.

Hinkie at it again. Great job! Back to hockey.

- stveshdy




The Sixers will be irrelevant for the next 5 years.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
Didn;t he have some sort of emotional or mental breakdown?
- Jsaquella

Doesn't like to fly. Needs to drive places.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
how was streit bad? has he played a game yet?
- 2Real

Come on buddy. 1-2 yrs too much and 1m too much. It's clear as day to most folks. I understand why we got him because of a seriuos need. Im not regretting it. Just trying to look at it objectively.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:23 PM ET
For those who don't know this, let me throw out there that I'm black. I just wanted to say that this offseason has been super exciting but today has been incredible for me in the sense that I can now say that the Flyers have had two black hockey players on this team at one time. This to me is bigger then having a black president!!
- dingo8urbaby



congrats, dingroe
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:23 PM ET
If he makes the bonuses it will be
- Jsaquella

But its doesnt mean they only have 5.2 for Rask left right now, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:23 PM ET
I knew you were being facetious...just still pisses me off. The lockout and artificial cap reduction will hurt the Flyers for a year and then see the cap jump like Spudd Webb within a few years
- Jsaquella


Middle class of NHL players will see the crunch. Top Free Agents are still going to get paid. That's both RFA and UFA.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 5 @ 8:24 PM ET
The Flyers got crucified for the Lecavalier and Streit deals. Same people praised Dupuis and Iginla moves and were fine with Clarkson, Horton and Clowe.
- Jsaquella


It makes no sense, man -- I've been railing about this for two days, because it's like the world has gone mad. Totally insane.

I look at some of these deals and I'm just flat-out shaking my head at how the Flyers get brutalized like they do by people, including some of our own fans.

Val Filppula got five years, $25 million today. VAL FILPPULA. Whose career high in goals is 23. Whose career high in points is 66. He's never had more than 40 points in ANY OTHER SEASON HE'S PLAYED.

Meanwhile, some people hate Scott Hartnell -- who has not had fewer than 40 points in seven years, when he was injured and had 39 points in 64 games -- and only makes $4.75 million per season!

That's a horrible deal for Val Filppula! It can't be justified! There is no justification for that contract! NONE!

I know you get it, some others. But I say it again: We will miss Paul Holmgren when he's gone.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:24 PM ET
But its doesnt mean they only have 5.2 for Rask left right now, right?
- hereticpride


Nope, the bonus cushion allows them to off set the hit for a year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
Middle class of NHL players will see the crunch. Top Free Agents are still going to get paid. That's both RFA and UFA.
- MJL


Happens in every capped sport, eventually.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
Apparently the deal is up to 6mil in bonuses. Not a 6mil cap hit.
- hereticpride


Bonus money isn't free on the Cap. It still has to be accounted for. His cap hit is 6M.
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