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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:02 AM ET
I know. But the idea isn't for it to be worse. It's to improve.
- PLindbergh31


It's an improvement because it wont be worse. Spin it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:03 AM ET
He did this year. He carried the load for awhile with Crawford out I believe.
- stveshdy


Shortened season. Emery only started 19 games. And wasn't he injured at the end of the season? IIRC he was.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:03 AM ET
Mason/Emery won't be any worse than Bryz/Leighton/Boucher.
- phillydentist

He went 17-1 in a "half season". I will take 34-2 in an 82 game season and let Mason have the other 46 games.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 5 @ 9:03 AM ET
Really, might want to take another look at that.

I added to my post above on Parise.

- MJL


Man, you are a double talker. In the same post you say to look at the salary and not the cap hit and later proceed to give an example that is a cap hit.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:04 AM ET
Here is my thing with Mason. Sometimes people dont like to be in the spotlight. They dont like added pressure, and they do terrible when they are the central figure.


And sometimes its the exact opposite. Look at Mason his rookie year... coming into a new city, playing under the spot light. Calder Trophy. Look at Mason in his WJC games.. outstanding. Maybe playing in a city that loves hockey, and being the central figure is exactly what a person like Steve Mason needs to succeed. Maybe he wasnt able to get into games in CBJ... I dont know. What I do know is that he was outstanding in his small showing here last season.

Crossing my fingers....

- jak521


Very fair points jak. Hopefully this is the case.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:05 AM ET
Shortened season. Emery only started 19 games. And wasn't he injured at the end of the season? IIRC he was.
- PLindbergh31


He was ready to play. Crawford got the nod for the playoffs. Emery did a great job. I'm not worried the Flyers doctors are great.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:05 AM ET
Shortened season. Emery only started 19 games. And wasn't he injured at the end of the season? IIRC he was.
- PLindbergh31


That was a knee injury that may/may not have been related to his flesh-eating-diseased hip.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:05 AM ET
I don't know about the records in total revenue. All I know is that hasn't translated into an increase for top tier players in the last decade. And it is wrong to assume the next decade will be any different.
- phillydentist

But it absolutely has... the only problem is that the cap has changed things. Terms have been stretched and GM's have found ways to spread things out.

Right now I could probably (off hand) think of about 30 players that are making north of 6 mill per season on long term deals. 10 years ago, guys didnt need to worry about 8 year deals because they could sign a contract for whatever the GM decided to pay them. The cap changed that.

So instead of seeing individual players getting 12 million dollar contracts, you are seeing a huge jump in guys getting long term high dollar deals.

section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:06 AM ET
I am the same exact way.. As soon as I read about Hall, I thought about Couts. Everyone else at the party was talking about Laughton going back...
- jak521

I think a package with a d man for an upgrade at d. Although, they would be better off trading b. Schenn to shed mor cap.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:06 AM ET
No reason you cant get the same production that Bryz gave you. Odds are it could be better with the goalie situation.
- stveshdy


Bryzgalov posted a .905 save % in 2 years. Quality chances against or not, that's basically replacement level numbers.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 5 @ 9:06 AM ET
He was ready to play. Crawford got the nod for the playoffs. Emery did a great job. I'm not worried the Flyers doctors are great.


- stveshdy

Think they have Mr. Miyagi back there giving slaps?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 5 @ 9:07 AM ET
How is David Clarkson worth 6m a year
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 5 @ 9:07 AM ET
How is David Clarkson worth 6m a year
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:07 AM ET
Shortened season. Emery only started 19 games. And wasn't he injured at the end of the season? IIRC he was.
- PLindbergh31

Knee injury, but was back in the playoffs.

I think if we get Emery and give Mason the lion's share.. he will be fine. If we are relying on Emery playing 30 games.. it will be a mistake. Give Mason 60 games.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:07 AM ET
I think trading Couturier would be a mistake. While I'm not ready to proclaim him a future Selke winner, I do think a consistent 20 goal scorer and a very solid defensive game is pretty much a certainty with him. Think J. Staal light.

My concern is since Couturier currently has a very small cap hit, if the Flyers do trade him how do they get equal value? I suppose they could package Coburn with him.

- PLindbergh31

Is it a mistake if you can move Couts and Coburn ++ for Alex Pietrangelo and Halak??? About the only trade that makes sense for the Flyers.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:08 AM ET
I think a package with a d man for an upgrade at d. Although, they would be better off trading b. Schenn to shed mor cap.
- section32

I dont think cap is an issue at all tbh
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:08 AM ET
How is David Clarkson worth 6m a year
- Winning


Got me.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:09 AM ET
Is it a mistake if you can move Couts and Coburn ++ for Alex Pietrangelo and Halak??? About the only trade that makes sense for the Flyers.
- Flyers1218

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:09 AM ET
Is it a mistake if you can move Couts and Coburn ++ for Alex Pietrangelo and Halak??? About the only trade that makes sense for the Flyers.
- Flyers1218


Not at all. However, don't think Pietrangelo is traded.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:10 AM ET
How is David Clarkson worth 6m a year
- Winning


I like Clarkson, but I don't think he's worth that much. Dreger is saying 7 years at 6 per. That's nuts.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:10 AM ET
Think they have Mr. Miyagi back there giving slaps?
- FlyersGrace

Something is telling me no...

http://www.legacy.com/NS/...bituary.aspx?pid=15750717
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 5 @ 9:11 AM ET
Bryzgalov posted a .905 save % in 2 years. Quality chances against or not, that's basically replacement level numbers.
- PLindbergh31


You sure its even that high?

He was ranked 37th last season and there are only 30 starting goalies.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:11 AM ET
Knee injury, but was back in the playoffs.

I think if we get Emery and give Mason the lion's share.. he will be fine. If we are relying on Emery playing 30 games.. it will be a mistake. Give Mason 60 games.

- jak521


Hmmm... if the idea is to only play Emery 20 games or so, I'm afraid his cap hit is going to be too high.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:12 AM ET
I like Clarkson, but I don't think he's worth that much. Dreger is saying 7 years at 6 per. That's nuts.
- PLindbergh31


Absolutely ridiculous.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:12 AM ET
https://twitter.com/tsnbo...status/353137268845854724
McKenzie tweets Emery is IN Philly?
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