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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 5 @ 9:50 AM ET
don't know if this was posted...

Rich Smith @ ALLlsportsINTEL NHL - Flyers have been shopping Couturier, source says they are attempting to package him and Meszaros in a deal.

- isaiah520

Sigh... Don't mind the broken defenseman behind the curtain...
I bet they are getting a ton of counter-offers back without Mez...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:50 AM ET
don't know if this was posted...

Rich Smith @ ALLlsportsINTEL NHL - Flyers have been shopping Couturier, source says they are attempting to package him and Meszaros in a deal.

- isaiah520

son of a female dog..

EDIT: Who is Rich Smith, and is he reliable?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
I hope Holmgren isn't using Couturier as a "throw in" in order for someone to take Meszaros. That wouldn't be good.
- PLindbergh31

anything less then a potential top pair D man under 26-27 yo will be a colossal fail
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
couts mezaros to buff for Myers and zadorov
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
It certainly open up some room for speculation for sure!
- MJL


it is peculier that we have 3 new signed centers, that #3 spot is still a ? imo
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
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Jul 5 @ 9:52 AM ET
anything less then a potential top pair D man under 26-27 yo will be a colossal fail
- Marc D

Totally agree.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:52 AM ET
it may be 1 year, homer said he wanted another goalie with only like one year, so maybe with mason/emery on 1 year deals will turn into some great goalie comp
- mydoglicks

1 yr is even better

but I think it will be at least 2 and hopefully not three

I hope to be wrong
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:52 AM ET
it is peculier that we have 3 new signed centers, that #3 spot is still a ? imo
- mydoglicks

Soon as I saw that Homer pulled the 180 and Hall and resigned him, I felt like Couts was on the move.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:53 AM ET
watch Homer trade Cooty for a 30 plus D man
- vejim


I suggested a few days ago that they might need to add a prospect to get someone to take Mesz. Obviously Couts wouldn't be a throw in, but the return will likely be far less than what you guys are thinking if Mesz is in the deal.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 5 @ 9:53 AM ET
I have to go make money now instead of wasting time.

Be back later after Holmgren signs Emery and trades away Couturier.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
1 yr is even better

but I think it will be at least 2 and hopefully not three

I hope to be wrong

- Marc D


has emery been relatively healthy the past 2 seasons? i know last year he went 17-1 and there was contoversy of whom was the starter in chi
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
u know if danny b did reject waiving his ntc at the deadline he is an idiot, because anyone that wanted him would have been for a cup run, and now he is stuck in the smurf village on a not-so good team, i dont see how he will be any help to mtl
- mydoglicks


I'm not a Montreal fan but the Habs I believe were the 2nd best team in the EC last year. I think Briere is far from an idiot. He knew he would get bought out, he gets some money the next few years from the buyout and put himself in a position to choose a team that gave him a nice financial commitment, a chance to win the playoffs, and works for himself and his family.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
anything less then a potential top pair D man under 26-27 yo will be a colossal fail
- Marc D


We'll see what happens. I think your point about Read in your previous post is a good one. If they feel they can't sign him, would make sense to trade him now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
I didn't say salaries aren't escalating on the whole. We were talking salaries of top players like Giroux and Vinny back in the day. The lockout happend because GM's like Holmgren were giving elite money to mediocre players like Bryz and because small market teams can't compete with larger markets. The salary for the average NHL player has escalated for sure. But not much for the top tier which is what we were debating.
- phillydentist



Then I'll simply point to the last year's two big Free Agent signings. Pairese and Suter. Take the first 7 years of their deals. Because 7 years in the max you can get in Free Agency now.

Both players would have cap hits of 10.1M.

The salary for top players has escalated greatly. Weber made 14M last year. He'll make 14M again this year.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
Soon as I saw that Homer pulled the 180 and Hall and resigned him, I felt like Couts was on the move.
- jak521


thats exactly my first thought, he is at the point were he needs more minutes imo, i just dont see schenn on the wing and even if we didnt see hall being signed, putting coots on the 4th lie would never make sense, also i beleive coots is from phoenix
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
couts mezaros to buff for Myers and zadorov
- PhillaBully


What else are we adding? If that tweet is true, it means they can't dump Mesz for a pick. That means he has negative value, and so you might be lucky to get Myers alone for that package.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
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Jul 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 52m
Ray Emery in PHI; Nathan Horton in CBJ; Ryane Clowe in NJ. But lots of intrigue, shouldn't be long after 12 noon that signings get done.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
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Jul 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
son of a female dog..

EDIT: Who is Rich Smith, and is he reliable?

- jak521

i dunno, but i just started following him and others had posted his stuff here. been fairly on target w/o outrageous nonsense so far.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
Well, whatever the Coots rumor is, someone will have to go with him if they expect to get a top tier d-man back. Otherwise salary will still have to go.

We are not getting anything good for him straight up that is NOT going to hamstring this team cap wise.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
What else are we adding? If that tweet is true, it means they can't dump Mesz for a pick. That means he has negative value, and so you might be lucky to get Myers alone for that package.
- TheGreat28

adding Couts to dump Mez makes no sense in any universe
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
So let me get this straight... Free agency opens at noon and here in the United States NHL network starts their coverage at 2pm??? So they can replay Oil change and NHL 36? What the (frank)? This is why I can't stand this sport sometimes.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
I hope Holmgren isn't using Couturier as a "throw in" in order for someone to take Meszaros. That wouldn't be good.
- PLindbergh31


The only way they're gonna find a taker for Meszaros is to package him, but to hear that they're 'shopping' the kid with him is disheartening. I hope the term is inaccurate.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 9:59 AM ET
@ALLsportsINTEL: NHL - Flyers have been shopping Couturier, source says they are attempting to package him and Meszaros in a deal.


Will see if it comes true.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:00 AM ET
So let me get this straight... Free agency opens at noon and here in the United States NHL network starts their coverage at 2pm??? So they can replay Oil change and NHL 36? What the (frank)? This is why I can't stand this sport sometimes.
- Flyers1218


yeah im about sick of 36 and oil change, they need to add more shows or just live coverage all day
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:00 AM ET
So let me get this straight... Free agency opens at noon and here in the United States NHL network starts their coverage at 2pm??? So they can replay Oil change and NHL 36? What the (frank)? This is why I can't stand this sport sometimes.
- Flyers1218


I think NBC Sports is picking up the TSN feed.
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