are we talking about the same player? Horcoff was an offensive liability for multiple years now... he was good on the draws and on the defensive side of the game that is it...
- saskoil21

Look at how he was used. With Hall and Eberle he got 27 points in 44 games. With Moreau/Pisani or Eager/Jones/Petrell playing the other team's best of course he wasnt going to put up more than 30 points. All of this is dumb just because I said Boyd Gordon is a bit overpaid at 3 million per. Belanger got half that, and everyone thought it was the worst contract ever.

With the Bozak and Weiss contracts, Gagner can't be that bad to sign now.
- Lahey

Was just about to post that. My guess is 4 years, 4.33 per with a limited NTC, but that might not be charitable enough to Gagner.

Edmonton media love Horcoff though they won't admit Gordon is better.

Although Tencer on the air saying he's a 3rd liner and Stauffer didn't cut him out.
- Lahey

freaken matheson is on crack. gordon as 4c?!? my goodness.

I know everyone's always jacked to get a job and a raise, but Ference, Labarbera and Gordon have seemed extra jacked to be here.

Jason LaBarbera on Boyd Gordon signing: "I was fist-pumping when I saw that. He's an animal. He will do anything possible to win."

Nick Cotsonika@cotsonika
Weiss to Wings, via @TSNBobMcKenzie. Five years, $4.9M. Big day in Detroit.

freaken matheson is on crack. gordon as 4c?!? my goodness.
- deks1

Keep in mind we were going after Stalberg because Steve Smith was with him in CHI.

That never actually happened, but Matheson thinks so.

Look at how he was used. With Hall and Eberle he got 27 points in 44 games. With Moreau/Pisani or Eager/Jones/Petrell playing the other team's best of course he wasnt going to put up more than 30 points. All of this is dumb just because I said Boyd Gordon is a bit overpaid at 3 million per. Belanger got half that, and everyone thought it was the worst contract ever.
- Jack-artist

No one said it was a bad contract for Belanger- just Clouts kept scapegoating him for the lack of offense which led to endless debates about the actual signing...

freaken matheson is on crack. gordon as 4c?!? my goodness.
- deks1

Well he's not going to play in the top 9. All 9 of those spots have already been taken up by Drew Stafford

Anyone hear Horc? Thinks there is a bigger role for him in Dallas then Edmonton. Got the impression he thinks he's still a top 6 center

No one said it was a bad contract for Belanger- just Clouts kept scapegoating him for the lack of offense which led to endless debates about the actual signing...
- saskoil21

Heh, yeah it was mostly Clouts. But still, context.

Well he's not going to play in the top 9. All 9 of those spots have already been taken up by Drew Stafford
- Morris

+1

Anyone hear Horc? Thinks there is a bigger role for him in Dallas then Edmonton. Got the impression he thinks he's still a top 6 center
- Lahey

Reminds me of Ethan Moreau calling himself a 3rd line power forward.

What's the deal with teams picking up captains? First it was Pittsburgh and now it's Detroit.

Holy (frank) Detroit and Iggy too??? Ek is reporting so that all but quashes that pipedream

4 good seasons from 2006 to 2009 actually. Not 5.5 worth but not far off either.
- Jack-artist

Not when he signed it.

What's the deal with teams picking up captains? First it was Pittsburgh and now it's Detroit.
- nayefj

leadership and experience goes a long way.

Anyone hear Horc? Thinks there is a bigger role for him in Dallas then Edmonton. Got the impression he thinks he's still a top 6 center
- Lahey

Tough to say. They've got a lot of "potential centres" ahead of him on the depth chart, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Seguin and Peverley both remain on the wing.

Cody Eakin still probably beats Horc out for the 2C job, but I'll bet he gets some minutes there.

Matheson is kind of a grump or rubs me that way...

Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty 3m

OK, OIL says goodbye to Peckham, Fistric is UFA. I look at their defence and don't see any big nasty, fighter types. There's a hole there.

Meeeeehhh....

Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty 3m

OK, OIL says goodbye to Peckham, Fistric is UFA. I look at their defence and don't see any big nasty, fighter types. There's a hole there.

Meeeeehhh....
- Morris

when do we wave good bye to hemsky?

when do we wave good bye to hemsky?
- deks1

Never!

Matheson is kind of a grump or rubs me that way...
- saskoil21

He's (frank)ed.

@JoshuaCooper Retweeted by Dan Rosen
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Hendricks to NSH

@JoshuaCooper Retweeted by Dan Rosen
#preds have so far signed Viktor Stalberg, Matt Cullen and Matt Hendricks tnne.ws/17Y0tcQ #nhl
- nayefj

I knew there was a reason I don't like you