Have to believe Seguin demanded a trade after being publicly bashed by Chiarelli, otherwise this whole trade makes no sense.
- ThePresident

Has no leverage to do that.

I'd take Eriksson over Seguin a million times over.

And Raycroft won the Calder!

Yeah, I know.

Just joshin' with you.

But don't underestimate the ability of a guy to throw it all away.

Seguin has a bit of a gluggity-gluggity reputation in Toronto.
- Atomic Wedgie

You make a good point. Good news for Dallas is I don't think they've given up any rasks to get him.

Have to believe Seguin demanded a trade after being publicly bashed by Chiarelli, otherwise this whole trade makes no sense.
- ThePresident

unless of course seguin is just a douche

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According to @HackswithHaggs Seguin was out late during series with Maple Leafs, showing up to work with the same clothes on 3 straight days


- Dozzer

so what about the close. The kid doesn't know how to do laundry.

Team success since the trade was my measuring stick.

I know that seems crazy right?
- robin_steele264

I guess Gretzky was pretty brutal then, eh?

unless of course seguin is just a douche
- Dozzer

This is more the way I see it, he has an attitude and party problem looking in from the outside.

When have I ever used the term "you are wrong"? That's your problem. You confuse my differing opinion with thinking I'm saying you are wrong.
- honesthockey

Just so you know, telling someone arrogant things like 'if you watched the games you'd know that', is not one freaking shade of difference from saying 'you are wrong'

Use your cap space to offer sheet Pietrangelo! At least inquire about a trade price...

Probably didn't smell too good....
- ThePresident

Eau de Toilet works wonders. Just ask the French about it.....

so what about the close. The kid doesn't know how to do laundry.
- zazzle

its cause he was out partying

I'd take Eriksson over Seguin a million times over.
- honesthockey

you also like bozak tho so we'll take that with a grain of salt

This is more the way I see it, he has an attitude and party problem looking in from the outside.
- LeafMan

right.. douche lol

I hope you're not alluding to the idea that your opinion isn't being respected. That would be pretty ironic considering anyone who opposes bozak and supports gardiner has been beaten to death getting told how wrong they are by you.

Anyone who said the ahl is a developmental league for that matter to.
- joel878

AHL isn't a development league, it's like elite swedish or finland league where young players play 5 minutes a games in bottom 6 and vet plays 18-25 min top 6 and PP.

AHL isn't a development league, it's like elite swedish or finland league where young players play 5 minutes a games in bottom 6 and vet plays 18-25 min top 6 and PP.
- Toball777

Really?

It's a league where players transition from junior to pro hockey, a developmental phase.

I'm almost willing to bet the word development is somewhere on the ahl's website.

you also like bozak tho so we'll take that with a grain of salt
- Sheppy99

Or two.

Just so you know, telling someone arrogant things like 'if you watched the games you'd know that', is not one freaking shade of difference from saying 'you are wrong'
- joel878

Sorry if it hurts your feelings that I don't read the stats sheets. I watch a game so when someone starts posting numbers at me I tell them to watch a game. Same as firing numbers at me to try to tell me Grabovski meant more to the Leaf lineup then Bozak.

AHL isn't a development league, it's like elite swedish or finland league where young players play 5 minutes a games in bottom 6 and vet plays 18-25 min top 6 and PP.
- Toball777

Well for the Leafs with 16 ELC contracts on the Marlies, it will be a developmental season.

you also like bozak tho so we'll take that with a grain of salt
- Sheppy99

I don't know when it became a crime to like Bozak.

He's a decent center who did a decent job for us. In a world of decent (but not great) centers, if he comes cheapest, he can have the job.

its cause he was out partying
- Dozzer

and who has time to the laundry when you're out partying .....

just flick off any puke and you're go to go

Really?

It's a league where players transition from junior to pro hockey, a developmental phase.

I'm almost willing to bet the word development is somewhere on the ahl's website.
- joel878

What the AHL is gonna tell you they aren't a development league?

Sorry if it hurts your feelings that I don't read the stats sheets. I watch a game so when someone starts posting numbers at me I tell them to watch a game. Same as firing numbers at me to try to tell me Grabovski meant more to the Leaf lineup then Bozak.
- honesthockey

too bad where your favorite team finishes at the end of the year wasn't determined by stats as well..... the one flaw in hockey. I agree with you.

Prospect Camp roster
Wednesday, July 10 at 2:45 p.m. and Thursday, July 11 at 10 a.m.

Matt Bellerive F Red Deer (WHL)

Antoine Bibeau G PEI (QMJHL)

Tyler Biggs F Oshawa (OHL)/Toronto (AHL)

Dominik Bittner D Mannheim (GER)

David Broll F Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)/Toronto (AHL)

Connor Brown F Erie (OHL)

Josh Burnside F Mississauga (OHL)

Tony Cameranesi F University of Minnesota Duluth (WCHA)

Teddy Doherty D Boston College (H-East)

Matt Finn D Guelph (OHL)

Frederik Gauthier F Rimouski (QMJHL)

Christopher Gibson G Chicoutimi (QMJHL)

Kevin Goumas F University of New Hampshire (H-East)

Petter Granberg D Skelleftea (SEL)

Fabrice Herzog F EV Zug (Swiss-A)/ EV Zug (U-20)

Andreas Johnson F Vastra Frolunda (SEL)/Vastra Frolunda (J20)

Eric Knodel D University of New Hampshire (H-East)

Mike Kunzle F GC Kusnacht Lions (SUI)

Josh Leivo F Sudbury (OHL)/Kitchener (OHL)/Toronto (AHL)

Mack Lemmon F Niagara (OHL)/Belleville (OHL)

Viktor Loov D Sodertalje (SWE-1)

Andrew MacWilliam D University of North Dakota (WCHA)/Toronto (AHL)

Beau McCue F Tri-City (WHL)

Charlie Millen G Ottawa Jr. Senators (CCHL)

Tom Nilsson D Mora (SWE-1)

Stuart Percy D Mississauga (OHL)/Toronto (AHL)

Kevin Raine D London (OHL)/Sudbury (OHL)

Morgan Rielly D Moose Jaw (WHL)/Toronto (AHL)

Dennis Robertson D Brown (ECAC)

Matt Rupert F London (OHL)

Ryan Rupert F London (OHL)

Garret Sparks G Guelph (OHL)/Toronto (AHL)

Dominic Toninato F Fargo (USHL)

Carter Verhaeghe F Niagara (OHL)

Really?

It's a league where players transition from junior to pro hockey, a developmental phase.

I'm almost willing to bet the word development is somewhere on the ahl's website.
- joel878

For the record.... I wasn't serious... Because in the AHL, young players usually play on top 6 and get 1st pp time.

I don't know when it became a crime to like Bozak.

He's a decent center who did a decent job for us. In a world of decent (but not great) centers, if he comes cheapest, he can have the job.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Around the time it became known that he wanted $5M per over 8 years I imagine.