Flyers just trying to outscore teams.
- stveshdy

And punish physically, that's one of the key aspects of those 2 players.

G went from wing to center he was drafted as a wing. Scott is a center he was drafted as a center. When G moved to center wasn't really the point.
- cfish99

My point was that Laughton can play wing (if needed) on the 4th line. A player signed to a 1-year deal for $600k shouldn't determine whether or not a young 1st round picks plays in the NHL or not. There are ways around it.

Could be. I would be on board if they could acquire either of those two. But then what about Hartnell?
- flyerscup2011

He cant skate bye bye Hartsy

And punish physically, that's one of the key aspects of those 2 players.
- JAKEw1234

Have to be good down the middle. Helps defensively.

I'm slightly disappointed Holmgren couldn't get a deal that was slightly below market value for Giroux. IMO, Giroux isn't worth the cap hit he will get and the Flyers will regret it. I like Giroux a lot but I just don't think he's at the top tier. If it were up to me, Giroux would get Richard/Carter'ed before his NMC kicks in.
- phillydentist

I would put him at the bottom of the top tier..He is not a Crosby/Malkin/Stamkos/OV(when he tries) type but he is in that ballpark..

1. Gone up in points every season.
2. Over the course of his first 4 full seasons 289 games , 79 goals, 182 assists = 261 points
3. 25 years old entering his prime when this contract expires he will be 34 assuming he stays with the team so just at the end of his prime.
4. By far the most dynamic offensive player this team has had since the 1 year of Foppa and Lindros in his prime before that.
5. +18 over his career and that includes this years crappy season.
6. 55 points in 50 playoff games...
7. in what was considered a down year for him he still averaged a point a game.
8. Has missed 5 games in the past 4 seasons..

Again he is not one of the big 4 but then again only they are... I put him right below those 4 players though. I put him in that tier with Getzlaf , Towes , Kane and others I am forgetting by my brain is filled with 4th of july hamburgers so I can't remember who they are.

My point was that Laughton can play wing (if needed) on the 4th line. A player signed to a 1-year deal for $600k shouldn't determine whether or not a young 1st round picks plays in the NHL or not. There are ways around it.
- jmatchett383

4th line minutes isn't ideal for Scott's development though.

My point was that Laughton can play wing (if needed) on the 4th line. A player signed to a 1-year deal for $600k shouldn't determine whether or not a young 1st round picks plays in the NHL or not. There are ways around it.
- jmatchett383

You guys remember who our coach is right? Line assignments mean nothing after the first shift.

In all fairness to Horc it was only his contract that made him look bad. He s a solid 3rd line C and a good 3 zone player. Nothing but good things to say about him.....but it was time, and good on MacT for making that deal.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

yup your gm did a fine job there

4th line minutes isn't ideal for Scott's development though.
- cfish99

Thats why he will be 3rd line center after they trade coot or b schenn for whatever

I would put him at the bottom of the top tier..He is not a Crosby/Malkin/Stamkos/OV(when he tries) type but he is in that ballpark..

1. Gone up in points every season.
2. Over the course of his first 4 full seasons 289 games , 79 goals, 182 assists = 261 points
3. 25 years old entering his prime when this contract expires he will be 34 assuming he stays with the team so just at the end of his prime.
4. By far the most dynamic offensive player this team has had since the 1 year of Foppa and Lindros in his prime before that.
5. +18 over his career and that includes this years crappy season.
6. 55 points in 50 playoff games...
7. in what was considered a down year for him he still averaged a point a game.
8. Has missed 5 games in the past 4 seasons..

Again he is not one of the big 4 but then again only they are... I put him right below those 4 players though. I put him in that tier with Getzlaf , Towes , Kane and others I am forgetting by my brain is filled with 4th of july hamburgers so I can't remember who they are.
- opeth_pa

the others might be E. Staal, Datsyuk, Sedim, Kopitar,

I would put him at the bottom of the top tier..He is not a Crosby/Malkin/Stamkos/OV(when he tries) type but he is in that ballpark..

1. Gone up in points every season.
2. Over the course of his first 4 full seasons 289 games , 79 goals, 182 assists = 261 points
3. 25 years old entering his prime when this contract expires he will be 34 assuming he stays with the team so just at the end of his prime.
4. By far the most dynamic offensive player this team has had since the 1 year of Foppa and Lindros in his prime before that.
5. +18 over his career and that includes this years crappy season.
6. 55 points in 50 playoff games...
7. in what was considered a down year for him he still averaged a point a game.
8. Has missed 5 games in the past 4 seasons..

Again he is not one of the big 4 but then again only they are... I put him right below those 4 players though. I put him in that tier with Getzlaf , Towes , Kane and others I am forgetting by my brain is filled with 4th of july hamburgers so I can't remember who they are.
- opeth_pa

This is a great post. I think Giroux got fair market value. I was just hoping for a discount for once. For most forwards, I think their prime years are 25-30. At least we will get all of Giroux's prime years assuming he doesn't get shipped by next summer.

4th line minutes isn't ideal for Scott's development though.
- cfish99

It won't hurt him, so long as Laviolette doesn't leave him there and forget he exists.

4th line minutes isn't ideal for Scott's development though.
- cfish99

Mike Richards was the Flyers 4th line center for 05/06 and 06/07 (when he wasn't injured). He turned out okay.
Also, he'll get spot duty on other lines as game needs and injuries dictate. Also could get PK and possible PP time. He won't be used like a 4th line goon. He'll play 12-14 minutes a night.

yup your gm did a fine job there
- Marc D

Best part is he completely schooled our stupid blogger, who had been claiming a "source" had told him that it was 100% certain Horcoff would be bought out because he was untradeable.

Sad I missed this interview:
http://www.tsn.ca/toronto...s/jonas_siegel/?id=426967

Best part is he completely schooled our stupid blogger, who had been claiming a "source" had told him that it was 100% certain Horcoff would be bought out because he was untradeable.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

gags was pretty solid last season

I was actually surprised it took a while for Lavi to use him on the PK

him and G would wreck havoc

#shortieheaven
- Marc D

gags is fine and ready to retire in style
two yrs four mill



(this worked with me obsessing over signing hall so i'm gonna stick with the plan)

I do love that they kept Adam Hall, but I wonder what it means for Laughton, Couturier, Talbot and Gagne in the 3rd/4th line roles.

I don't think the front office has a plan for Laughton to play in the AHL. I think Coots is gone for a dman and Cob urn and read are gone for a top notch winger for G
- Deasr1

so that's one vote for no develpment

so that's one vote for no develpment
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Vote doesn't count, he can't play in the AHL.

What time does free agency open tomorrow?? The free agent show isn't until 2pm on NHL Network. Does it open at noon or 2pm?

I do love that they kept Adam Hall, but I wonder what it means for Laughton, Couturier, Talbot and Gagne in the 3rd/4th line roles.
- Jsaquella

Is he that extra center they can send down and not have any cap hit worries.....it seems we always have a center we pickup on the cheap and treat them as dispensable..

What time does free agency open tomorrow?? The free agent show isn't until 2pm on NHL Network. Does it open at noon or 2pm?
- Flyers1218

Signings can be officially made starting at noon. By signings, I mean the signed contracts can be submitted to the league office starting at noon.

Lecavalier, Briere, etc...they can't technically be signed yet. Alll they have done is agreed to terms and when the contracts get approved by the NHL registry, then they're locked in fully.

Is he that extra center they can send down and not have any cap hit worries.....it seems we always have a center we pickup on the cheap and treat them as dispensable..
- huks99

He couldbe sent down, but he'd have to clear waivers.

Vote doesn't count, he can't play in the AHL.
- jmatchett383

everyone cries about how detroit develops... you think they'd leave him in juniors or rush him?

why do we have to rush someone just because they're panning out to be good?