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FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:39 PM ET
Thats a good thing though, i guess. If we sign Emery for 2 yrs and Mason poops the bed this season, we will still have Emery for one more year and Mason can walk, if he does good i'm sure he'll be rewarded with an extension.
- idiotsallofu


Agreed
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 4 @ 8:40 PM ET
Like we haven't heard this one before. Wash rinse repeat.
- JoeRussomanno


Good point.
In fact, icing a professional hockey team hasn't done squat for us in 37 years. We should try not having one this year. You know, change things up.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 4 @ 8:40 PM ET
I came here in good sports to say Giroux was almost signing and somehow some people hurt their feelings. Never said anything bad about the signing just asked what were the plans for your RFAs
- Orpik44


Some are 2assuming and 2defensive
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
I would like to see Laughton at least split the draws with Hall. Just use Hall on defensive zone and some offensive zone. I'm assuming they play on the same line.
- PhillySportsGuy

lots of centers means having two on the ice for key D zone draws , so when one gets waved off the dot the other jumps in

I like this strategy
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
I would like to see Laughton at least split the draws with Hall. Just use Hall on defensive zone and some offensive zone. I'm assuming they play on the same line.
- PhillySportsGuy


I think the plan is to let Laughton develop for another year. Who knows.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
lots of centers means having two on the ice for key D zone draws , so when one gets waved off the dot the other jumps in

I like this strategy

- Marc D


CHI did this in the POs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 4 @ 8:43 PM ET
lots of centers means having two on the ice for key D zone draws , so when one gets waved off the dot the other jumps in

I like this strategy

- Marc D


Love that strategy. Flyers did that late in the season with Hall and Giroux. Win the draw, clear the puck, send G off the ice.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 4 @ 8:43 PM ET
I think the plan is to let Laughton develop for another year. Who knows.
- PLindbergh31


Nah, we need to make sure Jay Rosehill has time to develop in the NHL. Wouldn't want to have to sit a young promising star like him when we could just send Laughton to juniors until he's 50 (gotta save those ELC years).
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
You're very condescending. Your remark was meant like 'what are your plans for your rfas' because you won't be able to sign them.
- PhillySportsGuy



Sorry, didn't mean to say that. Just because I'm a Penguins fan doesn't mean I hate you..
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
I think the plan is to let Laughton develop for another year. Who knows.
- PLindbergh31


From what I hear he is ready to come up, but who knows
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
I came here in good sports to say Giroux was almost signing and somehow some people hurt their feelings. Never said anything bad about the signing just asked what were the plans for your RFAs
- Orpik44



we plan on signing them

k thx bai
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
I think the plan is to let Laughton develop for another year. Who knows.
- PLindbergh31


I think his best development would be done in the NHL and not Juniors. We will see him in pre-season and the 9 game audition. I have a feeling he will let us know if he's ready. Good players usually do.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:45 PM ET
From what I hear he is ready to come up, but who knows
- nonpoint22


I'm sure he will get a good look in training camp. The small 5 game sample he had last year he certainly didn't look out of place.

Tomorrow should be interesting.
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
we plan on signing them

k thx bai

- Don'tForgetTocchet


I think your dog is adorable
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
L1 - Giroux
L2 - Vinny, BSchenn
L3 - Couts, Talbot, Read
L4 - Laughton, Hall

Those would be guys who can take faceoffs with experience as centers.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
I think his best development would be done in the NHL and not Juniors. We will see him in pre-season and the 9 game audition. I have a feeling he will let us know if he's ready. Good players usually do.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yep. I'm sure he's going to be given the chance to make the team. If he plays well enough he will make it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
Good point.
In fact, icing a professional hockey team hasn't done squat for us in 37 years. We should try not having one this year. You know, change things up.

- jmatchett383

Nah just cut out the koolaid for the fans.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 4 @ 8:47 PM ET


Sorry, didn't mean to say that. Just because I'm a Penguins fan doesn't mean I hate you..

- Orpik44


Bill's blog actually lays out, in detail, why the Flyers will be fine signing Coots and Schenn next year. The player up in the air is possibly Read.

I'm assuming the Pens will look to trade Paul Martin next offseason to make room. They only have 9 players UC for 2014-15 and they're at 49M.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
I came here in good sports to say Giroux was almost signing and somehow some people hurt their feelings. Never said anything bad about the signing just asked what were the plans for your RFAs
- Orpik44


Okay, I thought I did answer your question that there are indications that the cap will increase significantly next summer with all the fans coming back from the latest lockout and the addition of what 6 outdoor games. Hence, the projections of the cap rising up to $6 million dollars.

The projections for the NHL revenue this year (shortened season) are expected to be around $2.4 billion.

Let's dive a little further. Already with the way B. Schenn's contract is written, he is counting $3.1 million against the cap. His next contract he will not see a significant bump in actual cap hit, but "yes" in actual pay. Coots is currently at $1.375 million. Let's go crazy and say he gets a "bridge deal" similar to G's. So at most, B. Schenn and Coots will cost maybe an additional $2.5 million more. Gus was qualified at $1.1 million I believe. Do you expect him to have such an incredible year that he would get any more then a $2 million increase. Mason would have to win the Vezina to get anything more then that type of bump. Read should get an increase of around $3 million if he stays.

So let's do quick math is the Flyers would be spending at most around an additional $15 million for current players on the roster to be reupped while losing $10 million in salaries (Mez and Kimmo) with a projected increase in the cap of nearly $6 million. It's really not that difficult.

As I have mentioned before, it is safe to assume that Shero feels confident in the increasing cap projections to have 3 players signed over $7 million.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
I'm still hoping for Greiss or Khudobin
- MrBigglesworth


Really have no clue which direction they will go. Looks like Emery will be the choice. The guys you mention are interesting. I would avoid Thomas and Nabakov.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
I think your dog is adorable
- Phifly10

Definitely. It looks like the dog from The Simpsons..
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:50 PM ET
I think your dog is adorable
- Phifly10


thanks
idiotsallofu
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: clifton heights, PA
Joined: 04.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:51 PM ET
Definitely. It looks like the dog from The Simpsons..
- Orpik44


How do you feel about Bylsma blowing the Olympics for the U.S ?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 4 @ 8:53 PM ET
thanks
- Don'tForgetTocchet


How about this little guy

Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:54 PM ET
Okay, I thought I did answer your question that there are indications that the cap will increase significantly next summer with all the fans coming back from the latest lockout and the addition of what 6 outdoor games. Hence, the projections of the cap rising up to $6 million dollars.

The projections for the NHL revenue this year (shortened season) are expected to be around $2.4 billion.

Let's dive a little further. Already with the way B. Schenn's contract is written, he is counting $3.1 million against the cap. His next contract he will not see a significant bump in actual cap hit, but "yes" in actual pay. Coots is currently at $1.375 million. Let's go crazy and say he gets a "bridge deal" similar to G's. So at most, B. Schenn and Coots will cost maybe an additional $2.5 million more. Gus was qualified at $1.1 million I believe. Do you expect him to have such an incredible year that he would get any more then a $2 million increase. Mason would have to win the Vezina to get anything more then that type of bump. Read should get an increase of around $3 million if he stays.

So let's do quick math is the Flyers would be spending at most around an additional $15 million for current players on the roster to be reupped while losing $10 million in salaries (Mez and Kimmo) with a projected increase in the cap of nearly $6 million. It's really not that difficult.

As I have mentioned before, it is safe to assume that Shero feels confident in the increasing cap projections to have 3 players signed over $7 million.

- ravishingone


Sounds fair

Yeah, Shero is very confident the cap will go up as you said. It wasn't a hard choice to lock up 2 of the top 3 players in the NHL and one top 5-8 d-man. We are lucky to have them for at least 9 years each.
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