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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:23 PM ET
Hall 1 year 800k. According to Carchidi.
- Roytastic


It's 600k, even Sam can't get this right.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:23 PM ET
So there is pur 4th line center. Not bad for faceoffs.... Giroux, Vinny, Hall
- moylander


He can move to wing should Laughton make the roster, Hall has flexibility
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:24 PM ET
Dont mind if coots gets traded,as long as a stud d-man is coming back
- richiewinthecup

Agree. Send coby, read, coots, and a pick for a true #1
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:24 PM ET



hallllll yes


magical faceoff elf
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:25 PM ET
He can move to wing should Laughton make the roster, Hall has flexibility
- ob18

Laughton can play wing as well iirc
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
Woof.

Man...I don't know. I'm trying REALLY HARD to tell myself this means nothing for Sean Couturier's future in Philadelphia, but...well...um, er...whose roster spot is Hall taking?

Because if they were dead serious about Scott Laughton making the team, that math don't work.

- AllInForFlyers



laughton can wait
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
He can move to wing should Laughton make the roster, Hall has flexibility
- ob18


Yeah, you could do that...huh.

That's...interesting. It makes the roster kinda funky, when you start looking at it, and it also means that somebody almost has to get moved for Simon Gagne to return.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
Laughton can play wing as well iirc
- moylander


He can but I believe he has 1 year of junior eligibility left (checking on it now), if so it's either the NHL or back to Oshawa.
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:28 PM ET
hallllll yes


magical faceoff elf

- Don'tForgetTocchet



Agreed this team just got much better in the face off dot.Which can only help them, especially in the d-zone
idiotsallofu
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: clifton heights, PA
Joined: 04.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:28 PM ET
Noice. I liked Hall alot.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
So there is pur 4th line center. Not bad for faceoffs.... Giroux, Vinny, Hall
- moylander


now giroux doesn't have to take every single faceoff
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
Agreed this team just got much better in the face off dot.Which can only help them, especially in the d-zone
- richiewinthecup


THIS.

Again, I don't try to kid myself that the Flyers defense isn't fairly average, in many respects.

But with Lecavalier and Hall, the Flyers are making it so they can fake some things, because you can absolutely hide some weaknesses simply by winning faceoffs.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:31 PM ET
For fun, rank these players for me, Joe.

Parise
Malkin
E. Staal
Heatley
Giroux
Getzlaf
Ovechkin
Vanek
Nash

- Roytastic


I'm not Joe, but here goes...

Malkin
Ovechkin
Giroux
Staal
Getzlaf
Nash
Parise
Vanek
Heatley
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:31 PM ET
He can but I believe he has 1 year of junior eligibility left (checking on it now), if so it's either the NHL or back to Oshawa.
- ob18


i mean yah that's a bummer for him but i'm very ok with him taking a longer development period
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:33 PM ET
I'm not Joe, but here goes...

Malkin
Ovechkin
Giroux
Staal
Getzlaf
Nash
Parise
Vanek
Heatley

- Rocktane


For me...
Malkin
Ovechkin
Giroux=Staal=Parise
Getzlaf
Vanek
Nash
Heatley
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:34 PM ET
i mean yah that's a bummer for him but i'm very ok
with him taking a longer development period

- Don'tForgetTocchet


If that's the case it's okay, he is more defensive but if he did go back he'd maybe the 1st line center if not 2nd. Oshawa does have a stud center in Michael dal Colle (2014 draft) that will also get good ice time.

I asked 2 junior scouts for clarification, just waiting for an answer.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:35 PM ET
Hall 1 year 800k. According to Carchidi.
- Roytastic

Holy poop. Kind of a shocker? Wonder what this means?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:36 PM ET
Hall 1 year 800k. According to Carchidi.
- Roytastic


Is he the new Kent Manderville? Great on faceoffs, good defensive player, 100+ game goalless drought?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:36 PM ET
If that's the case it's okay, he is more defensive but if he did go back he'd maybe the 1st line center if not 2nd. Oshawa does have a stud center in Michael dal Colle (2014 draft) that will also get good ice time.

I asked 2 junior scouts for clarification, just waiting for an answer.

- ob18


Wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers make a trade for a defenseman using Schenn or Couturier. I hope its not the case unless they get a stud.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:37 PM ET
Holy poop. Kind of a shocker? Wonder what this means?
- Just5


It means Laughton centers the 4th line and Hall is the new 13th forward...or Laughton plays wing over Jay "who knew I could actually play hockey" Rosehill.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 4 @ 7:37 PM ET
hallllll yes


magical faceoff elf

- Don'tForgetTocchet

I almost mentioned something about elves in my last post. I imagine we'll hear about Keebler signing on as a new sponsor this season.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers make a trade for a defenseman using Schenn or Couturier. I hope its not the case unless they get a stud.
- stveshdy


I sure as hell hope not but I also won't be shocked.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers make a trade for a defenseman using Schenn or Couturier. I hope its not the case unless they get a stud.
- stveshdy


Its what I have been saying since the Vinny news
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
If that's the case it's okay, he is more defensive but if he did go back he'd maybe the 1st line center if not 2nd. Oshawa does have a stud center in Michael dal Colle (2014 draft) that will also get good ice time.

I asked 2 junior scouts for clarification, just waiting for an answer.

- ob18



maybe he turns 20 during the season and can go to the ahl
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 4 @ 7:39 PM ET
THIS.

Again, I don't try to kid myself that the Flyers defense isn't fairly average, in many respects.

But with Lecavalier and Hall, the Flyers are making it so they can fake some things, because you can absolutely hide some weaknesses simply by winning faceoffs.

- AllInForFlyers

Conversely, your team looks a lot worse when they don't have possession of the puck as often.
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