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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers move two defenseman tonight/tomorrow.
- stveshdy


I love NHL free agency because things usually happen fast. Last year was unusual because Parise took a white to make his decision.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
I think he could be that too. But I am disturbed by the years being thrown around to 30+ players by the Flyers. In the short term they are better, but the point is, they are not better enough and close ain't no cigar. I would have preferred they actually focus on building a more cohesive defensively responsible team. Make the forwards backcheck and come back into zone for short passes from D. Perhaps get another set of high draft picks and be ok with an average reg season, even 2. See what we have in the young forwards and THEN add missing pieces as needed. I would have shown confidence in Couts/SChenn and let them develop/compete for the #2 center role.

In other words I saw the basic problem with team as being system rather than personnel. And with all these new pieces being brought in, the emphasis will be diverted from that.

Also, I see VL being described as a good ES player. I don't see it. He is a consistent - player throughout his career and always outside the top 5 forwards in +/- in the TBL team in recent years. We will have Simmer, Harts, Schenn, Vinny usually out on ice and this is going to be a problem.

- PT21


I think you're points are valid. I think a player like Streit will help in the puck transition game. And hopefully spend less time in their own end. Lecavalier will make them a better offensive team. And the style of play that Laviolette preaches, has not shown to be a style conducive to strong defensive play. I really hope that Laviolette makes some changes system wise. Don't know that he will. But I hope. And if the Flyers don't improve overall defensively as a team, then that is going to be a problem.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
I doubt it.....but I have been wrong before
- nonpoint22

Can...but probably won't.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
I agree dingo! Not that I don't like Meszaros. But the injuries, and he's in the last year of his deal, makes him the logical defenseman to move.
- MJL

When exactly must the Flyers create the space?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers move two defenseman tonight/tomorrow.
- stveshdy


Honestly, nothing would surprise me.
cfish99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: marlton, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
When exactly must the Flyers create the space?
- dingo8urbaby

After pre season I think
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
Why was he matched up against Malkin as a rookie in the playoffs?
- cfish99


Because, for good or ill, Lavy has been putting Couturier out there repeatedly against tough opposing forwards. Yes, Coots had some impressive battles with Shrek, but by the same token, he still put up 10 pts in 7 games in that series.

By contrast, Malkin had just 5 pts in 9 games against Ottawa and Boston.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 4:34 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers move two defenseman tonight/tomorrow.
- stveshdy


I doubt it tonight....but reports are they will have a trade done by noon tomorrow so they can obtain a goalie....I really think big moves are gonna happen just not with the flyers....my gut says they find someone for mez and sign emery and thats it ....again I have been wrong before
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:34 PM ET
When exactly must the Flyers create the space?
- dingo8urbaby



It depends on what they want to do. As far as other player moves. As of right now, by the end of training camp.
cfish99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: marlton, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 4 @ 4:34 PM ET
Because, for good or ill, Lavy has been putting Couturier out there repeatedly against tough opposing forwards. Yes, Coots had some impressive battles with Shrek, but by the same token, he still put up 10 pts in 7 games in that series.

By contrast, Malkin had just 5 pts in 9 games against Ottawa and Boston.

- exlund

Malkin was MVP that year though wasn't he? or was it Perry?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:35 PM ET
wait so was coburn traded?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 4:36 PM ET
I doubt it tonight....but reports are they will have a trade done by noon tomorrow so they can obtain a goalie....I really think big moves are gonna happen just not with the flyers....my gut says they find someone for mez and sign emery and thats it ....again I have been wrong before
- nonpoint22


I think its possible they move both Coburn and Mez.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 4:37 PM ET
Honestly, nothing would surprise me.
- MJL


Me either. Always expect the unexpected with the Flyers.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 4 @ 4:37 PM ET
I think its possible they move both Coburn and Mez.
- stveshdy

To the Oilers, for PRV and Hemsky. Maybe we'll throw in Teubert.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 4 @ 4:39 PM ET
It depends on what they want to do. As far as other player moves. As of right now, by the end of training camp.
- MJL

It's looking more and more like a pipe dream but I'm still holding on to hope for Simon Gagne and Ray Emery. I was one of the few looking to dump Matt Read but with the money spent on Lecavalier at center, I have zero interests in allowing Read to get away. I've had a major change of heart. It's amazing what one move can do.
cfish99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: marlton, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 4 @ 4:39 PM ET
I think its possible they move both Coburn and Mez.
- stveshdy

I don't think they have to move Coburn, but people are very interested in him especially at 4.5 mil for a couple of years. Mez is a easy salary dump but won't get a really good return.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 4:40 PM ET
I don't think they have to move Coburn, but people are very interested in him especially at 4.5 mil for a couple of years. Mez is a easy salary dump but won't get a really good return.
- cfish99


Don't have to move him but if a team gives them a good return, he gone.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:41 PM ET
To the Oilers, for PRV and Hemsky. Maybe we'll throw in Teubert.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


You would throw in Teubert whom has been nothing short of disappointment and the other 2.

No thank you. The offer has to be better.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 4:41 PM ET
To the Oilers, for PRV and Hemsky. Maybe we'll throw in Teubert.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Please someone tell who is PRV? I feel so left out
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 4:42 PM ET
To the Oilers, for PRV and Hemsky. Maybe we'll throw in Teubert.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Who's prv?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 4 @ 4:42 PM ET
Please someone tell who is PRV? I feel so left out
- nonpoint22

Magnus Pajaarvi
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 4:43 PM ET
It's looking more and more like a pipe dream but I'm still holding on to hope for Simon Gagne and Ray Emery. I was one of the few looking to dump Matt Read but with the money spent on Lecavalier at center, I have zero interests in allowing Read to get away. I've had a major change of heart. It's amazing what one move can do.
- dingo8urbaby

Love gags but give me stalberg over gagne if we are going after a FA 3rd line LW
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 4:44 PM ET
I think its possible they move both Coburn and Mez.
- stveshdy


Anything is possible....I wouldnt be shocked if Coots changes his address tomorrow, I am just saying I dont think it will happen, which means it will
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 4:44 PM ET
Magnus Pajaarvi
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Not impressed with his game at all.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 4 @ 4:45 PM ET
Magnus Pajaarvi
- TheTaoOfSemenko


I Don't like PRV. He has been a huge disappointment.
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