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Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:43 PM ET
With Tortorella screaming at the all the primadonnas and floppers on the Canucks I really can't see that happening. Not to mention I really think the sisters are gonna walk after the year is done.
- Ihatebrianburke



Where too? If they leave, I think they leave the NHL.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:47 PM ET
I like you. Flames got Monahan... good step
- Oilers4Life14

If they're able to pick up Seguin without giving up Monahan look out in a couple years. But until then Calgary is gonna suck regardless. I think Feaster is gonna sign enough high priced ufa's to take themselves out of contention for real high pick again though.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:47 PM ET
Where too? If they leave, I think they leave the NHL.
- Deadmau55


No, they will trade them to EDM for RNH + Hall + 1st rounder + 2nd rounder
-Ian Esplen
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
Clouts is like George Kastanza...he should think about his predictions, and then say the exact opposite. 3 reasons why Horcoff remains an Oiler.
1. He is still one of the top 15 or 20 3C's in the league.
2. Might not be able to move him.
3. Might not be able to find a suitable replacement.

Bonus:
4. It will Cloutier Bananas

- Jeropotato

I think you a word
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
If they're able to pick up Seguin without giving up Monahan look out in a couple years. But until then Calgary is gonna suck regardless. I think Feaster is gonna sign enough high priced ufa's to take themselves out of contention for real high pick again though.
- Ihatebrianburke



I think all that Seguin talk is alot of hot air.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:49 PM ET
If they're able to pick up Seguin without giving up Monahan look out in a couple years. But until then Calgary is gonna suck regardless. I think Feaster is gonna sign enough high priced ufa's to take themselves out of contention for real high pick again though.
- Ihatebrianburke


I've suggested they would have to put in Baertshi and a 1st rounder. Might be worth it. Then you run Seguin - Monahan. Considering they drafted two wingers in the first round this year, maybe it's a logical choice.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:49 PM ET
I agree with this completely. I understand we need to be patient but seriously, how long is too long? It's been too slow. Which makes me think at the same time that there's something big being established right now.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:50 PM ET
No, they will trade them to EDM for RNH + Hall + 1st rounder + 2nd rounder
-Ian Esplen

- ystoil



You need to add more. The Sedins are too good for just those players.
alcatrazhockey
Joined: 03.03.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:50 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Buying Out Horcoff: There's Still Time!
- Maxbone


Or do something similar to what the Canucks did, keep Horcoff and trade Gagner for a top ten pick in the draft.... oh wait... missed the boat on that one too.
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Clowe-Gagner-Yakupov
Stalberg-Fillpula-Paajarvi
Petrell-Gordon-Brown
Smyth

Coburn-Shultz
Smid-Petry
Belov-Gilbert
Klefbom

Dubnyk
Khudobin
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
I think all that Seguin talk is alot of hot air.
- Deadmau55

agreed.

he wont be dealt
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:55 PM ET
I think you a word
- Morris


It happens.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
I think they better question is, when was the last time he was bad? Or worse than Dubby?
- LeftCoaster


Ummm....Last year....
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
You need to add more. The Sedins are too good for just those players.
- Deadmau55

I feel like in a few years if Gillis timed it right and was ready to turn the tide into rebuild mode he could trade the Sedins for a HUGE package to a team like Nashvhille or Columbus whose ready to make that next step. Like two 1sts, teams 3 best prospects and 2 decent players to provide veteran leadership during the rebuild transition.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
I feel like in a few years if Gillis timed it right and was ready to turn the tide into rebuild mode he could trade the Sedins for a HUGE package to a team like Nashvhille or Columbus whose ready to make that next step. Like two 1sts, teams 3 best prospects and 2 decent players to provide veteran leadership during the rebuild transition.
- Morris



I swear to god, I'm going to invent a sarcasm font, and make billions.


But I see what you are getting at.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
Hey is it just me or has Clout's written about 30 blogs this past month stating that Horcoff WILL be bought out as fact??? Is this his blog saying "I was wrong and I have no sources and don't know as much about hockey as I like to think I do"?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 3 @ 9:06 PM ET
I feel like in a few years if Gillis timed it right and was ready to turn the tide into rebuild mode he could trade the Sedins for a HUGE package to a team like Nashvhille or Columbus whose ready to make that next step. Like two 1sts, teams 3 best prospects and 2 decent players to provide veteran leadership during the rebuild transition.
- Morris


I don't think they'd get the roster players. I'd use Jarome's deal as a comparable for each player.

Late 1st + 2 B/C prospects for each of the Sedins. Maybe they get a discount for buying in bulk

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Jul 3 @ 9:08 PM ET
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Clowe-Gagner-Yakupov
Stalberg-Fillpula-Paajarvi
Petrell-Gordon-Brown
Smyth

Coburn-Shultz
Smid-Petry
Belov-Gilbert
Klefbom

Dubnyk
Khudobin

- Oilers42


Switch Filpula and Stalberg
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:09 PM ET
I don't think they'd get the roster players. I'd use Jarome's deal as a comparable for each player.

Late 1st + 2 B/C prospects for each of the Sedins. Maybe they get a discount for buying in bulk

- ystoil

Maybe you're right. I was thinking they had two years left but I guess they only have one.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:11 PM ET
Where too? If they leave, I think they leave the NHL.
- Deadmau55

I don't think they'd leave the league at all but I do think they'll walk. They're not gonna like Tortorella at all. I could see them going to a team in a win now situation. Maybe to be back with AV in New York. Think of all the room Rick Nash would be able to create for the two of them on a line. It would be sick.
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Jul 3 @ 9:13 PM ET
Switch Filpula and Stalberg
- Oilers4Life14

Stalberg plays centre also???
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jul 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
treating players like this will help attract ufa's..... true or false?
- derm10


Treating players like this? Or players treating the Oilers like this? Read the blog.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:18 PM ET
I've suggested they would have to put in Baertshi and a 1st rounder. Might be worth it. Then you run Seguin - Monahan. Considering they drafted two wingers in the first round this year, maybe it's a logical choice.
- ystoil

Baertchi and Calgary's 2014 1st would be close. Calgary would probably have to add something else small. Good deal for both teams I think. Boston needs serious cap relief and this would do it
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jul 3 @ 9:18 PM ET
Hey is it just me or has Clout's written about 30 blogs this past month stating that Horcoff WILL be bought out as fact??? Is this his blog saying "I was wrong and I have no sources and don't know as much about hockey as I like to think I do"?
- ruttager17


I like how over time you continue to troll my blogs, but less and less people seem interested in what you are saying. Keep up the good work.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM ET
I agree with this completely. I understand we need to be patient but seriously, how long is too long? It's been too slow. Which makes me think at the same time that there's something big being established right now.
- mbxiphos1527

I wouldn't say too slow up to this point. however I would say that a big leap needs to be taken next year. clouts' version of the way he sees oilers management thinking about next season is way off imo.
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