When it comes to Seguin, do not give up Baertschi, Brodie, or Monahan, and do not give up the first round pick. Anything else is doable.

I was mistaken in a previous post about just how tight Bostons Cap situation will become after resigning both Rask and Bergeron, but things will still be tighter then they want it to be.

And as good a talent as Seguin may be, he isn't that for the Bruins because they simply do not that that spot available for him to play in. For him to be a center for them he it will be on the third line (behind Bergeron and Krecji). That is just how the team is built. That's not a bad thing as those two centers are great, but I doubt they want a 5+ million third line center. So why not trade him and get something helpful back for him. Get some cap breathing room that will allow them to go after other pieces (like a replacement for Horton for example).

I think that Backlund, Gaudreau, and next year's 2nd is a good and more than fair offer. Gaudreau is a prospect, and with any prospect there is an unknown factor. But that is how it is with trading prospects. If any team has scouted Gaudreau it would be Boston. The offer also provides "off the ice" aspects as well. But they make that offer, then tweak things from there. Maybe add a goaltender like Reto Barra. The Burins do not have a back up goalie currently (unless they think that Malcolm Subban is ready for that role).
- dal_johnson

Getting closer to offers they would entertain but I still feel you guys are off. Ive watched a LOT of Seguin and hes much better than you guys are giving him credit for, regardless if he has a spot on the team or not.

Furthermore, Gaudreau is not a Boston Bruin type player. Just saying.

Seguin doesn't play center for the Bruins. He was given the chance this year for a couple games and it was a total disaster. I'm not saying he could never play center, I'm just saying he has proven nothing at the position.
- GSDIV

Playing for Boston he really has very little room for error at center ... They are an elite team .....In cgy he would be given a much longer leash ... You don't get drafted 2nd overall as a center and play your career as a winger ... Also I'm not sure why backlund would be in any deal to Boston ... He doesn't fit... Only flames roster players that fit to me would be glenx or cammy at half his salary

Any chance Boston tries to replace Horton with clarkson ?

The Boston Bruins are by no means desperately trying to trade him...he had (one) off year and struggled a little in the playoffs...common people.

21 years old

NHL Career Totals - 203 56 65 121pts
- Colin Dambrauskas

I agree but there is a real concern about his actions off the ice from management. Chiarelli would not have gone public with it unless there was valid concern to get Seguin to change his ways.

Getting closer to offers they would entertain but I still feel you guys are off. Ive watched a LOT of Seguin and hes much better than you guys are giving him credit for, regardless if he has a spot on the team or not.

Furthermore, Gaudreau is not a Boston Bruin type player. Just saying.
- Colin Dambrauskas

There is a solid case to be made about Gaudreau being a good prospect but with a fair bit of uncertainty around him (mostly because he's still at least a year away). The problem is that other teams will know this too.

Playing for Boston he really has very little room for error at center ... They are an elite team .....In cgy he would be given a much longer leash ... You don't get drafted 2nd overall as a center and play your career as a winger ... Also I'm not sure why backlund would be in any deal to Boston ... He doesn't fit... Only flames roster players that fit to me would be glenx or cammy at half his salary

Any chance Boston tries to replace Horton with clarkson ?
- Redmile247

They would have to clear a whole bunch of cap to afford Clarkson. Mind you they have to do that anyway (most likely Peverley/Kelly).

Getting closer to offers they would entertain but I still feel you guys are off. Ive watched a LOT of Seguin and hes much better than you guys are giving him credit for, regardless if he has a spot on the team or not.

Furthermore, Gaudreau is not a Boston Bruin type player. Just saying.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Colin what is the most you would give up for seguin ?
I agree with you but I just don't see a deal that makes sense

Playing for Boston he really has very little room for error at center ... They are an elite team .....In cgy he would be given a much longer leash ... You don't get drafted 2nd overall as a center and play your career as a winger ... Also I'm not sure why backlund would be in any deal to Boston ... He doesn't fit... Only flames roster players that fit to me would be glenx or cammy at half his salary

Any chance Boston tries to replace Horton with clarkson ?
- Redmile247

I think Clarkson is going to get a huge contract, Bruins just don't have the cap space. Their owner saw to that during the lockout haha.

They would have to clear a whole bunch of cap to afford Clarkson. Mind you they have to do that anyway (most likely Peverley/Kelly).
- S Kaspar Rollins

If they were willing to trade seguin cuz they were trying to resign Horton then why not do the same for clarkson

Although I think clarkson would have to take a lot less then he could get to play on a contender .... Horton >clarkson

lol save face eh.. good one.. I express my opinion and you take it upon yourself to take it so personal, enough that you have to respond the way you did..all im saying is hes not going to be the player everyone thought, your gm can see this, wether he says it or not.save cap space eh?? to resign a plug like jagr?? gimmee a break..don't get all personal, its not an attack on YOU, just my opinion.. jezz..
- nascarguy

Not personal at all, I didnt take it that way, jst responded to your post in kind. Its the fact that they ahve to resign Bergy, rask and that's a lot of loot right there, with them and Looch on huge contracts one contract could be made expendable, so Seguin being a young great player should fetch a healthy return thus why options are looked at to move him "if" the right deal was there... If not you keep a player that at this point in his career is scoring at a better pace than your All Mighty Phil Kessel.

Not personal at all, I didnt take it that way, jst responded to your post in kind. Its the fact that they ahve to resign Bergy, rask and that's a lot of loot right there, with them and Looch on huge contracts one contract could be made expendable, so Seguin being a young great player should fetch a healthy return thus why options are looked at to move him "if" the right deal was there... If not you keep a player that at this point in his career is scoring at a better pace than your All Mighty Phil Kessel.
- MrBeanTown

end of the day, the Bruins have 1 cup since that trade, and had flexible to add the pieces they needed to win that cup. The leafs have 1 first round exit to show for it.
Advantage boston

Again, this trade for Kessel looks better n better with each passing day! People give seguin to much credit..hes just a big name, he hasn't done really anything special..Boston wants to trade him now while his value is high..even the Bruins gm can see that the contract extension he signed is not worth it...just my two cents
- nascarguy

Granted he hasn`t had the opportunity to do anything special...he is buried in boston.

Granted he hasn`t had the opportunity to do anything special...he is buried in boston.
- The-O-G

Leafs fans wont let that be known, just like they refuse to show how B's also got Hamilton and Knight in the deal... Oh well, whatever helps em sleep at night LOL

Colin what is the most you would give up for seguin ?
I agree with you but I just don't see a deal that makes sense
- Redmile247

I see no deals that make actual sense between the two teams, tbh. The Flames are not in a position where they can unload assets to acquire one, albeit a good one. Things may change in 1-2 years when they have a better idea of (exactly) what they have, but right now they risk giving up too much and or making a bad decision too early. Seguin would be great to have for a team like this, but with no other real assets in the cupboards because of it, it kinda defeats the purpose no?

Draft your own Seguin or move a player later on who develops nicely to fix holes.

Leafs fans wont let that be known, just like they refuse to show how B's also got Hamilton and Knight in the deal... Oh well, whatever helps em sleep at night LOL
- MrBeanTown

Haha agreed....I would also think Boston might be interested in a guy like Giordano. Their back end is decent but I think they could use some help back there. He`s a Bruin type player as well. I think a deal like Giordano, Gaudreau and a second could be attractive, maybe i`m way off base, but I think the time is now for the Bruins. Giordano would help them way more to win a cup in the next 3-4 years than any prospect would. I think that has to be taken into consideration here.

I see no deals that make actual sense between the two teams, tbh. The Flames are not in a position where they can unload assets to acquire one, albeit a good one. Things may change in 1-2 years when they have a better idea of (exactly) what they have, but right now they risk giving up too much and or making a bad decision too early. Seguin would be great to have for a team like this, but with no other real assets in the cupboards because of it, it kinda defeats the purpose no?

Draft your own Seguin or move a player later on who develops nicely to fix holes.
- Colin Dambrauskas

See my previous post. Could a guy like Giordano not sweeten the pot? I think he is a valuable piece.

See my previous post. Could a guy like Giordano not sweeten the pot? I think he is a valuable piece.
- The-O-G

If Boston were happy with Gio and Gaudreau I'd do it from a Flames perspective. I don't think they do it though. There are comparable defensemen available at similar cap hits that wouldn't cost them Seguin.

If Boston were happy with Gio and Gaudreau I'd do it from a Flames perspective. I don't think they do it though. There are comparable defensemen available at similar cap hits that wouldn't cost them Seguin.
- jtommyt

I knew I picked you as a ref for a reason!

If Boston were happy with Gio and Gaudreau I'd do it from a Flames perspective. I don't think they do it though. There are comparable defensemen available at similar cap hits that wouldn't cost them Seguin.
- jtommyt

Yeah I`m not sure it would be enough either, all depends on what they think of Gaudreau.

The Flames could also be in a position to retain a bunch of Gio`s cap hit. Not sure what the max would be but if they ate a bunch of $$$ it could get really good.

Gio for super cheap, a great prospect, + a 2nd rounder. Not a bad haul.

If the Flames could somehow end up with Monohan, Baertschi and Seguin I would be jacked.

Oh and don`t forget Poirier

I knew I picked you as a ref for a reason!
- Colin Dambrauskas

Oh why don`t you 2 get a room!!!

Maybe inquire about Ryan Johansen. He and Sven were teammates. Maybe spark a fire.

I see no deals that make actual sense between the two teams, tbh. The Flames are not in a position where they can unload assets to acquire one, albeit a good one. Things may change in 1-2 years when they have a better idea of (exactly) what they have, but right now they risk giving up too much and or making a bad decision too early. Seguin would be great to have for a team like this, but with no other real assets in the cupboards because of it, it kinda defeats the purpose no?

Draft your own Seguin or move a player later on who develops nicely to fix holes.
- Colin Dambrauskas

My thoughts exactly

See my previous post. Could a guy like Giordano not sweeten the pot? I think he is a valuable piece.
- The-O-G

Bruins probably aren't adding any d men with much of a cap hit
They have their 3 vets and 3 kids who all showed they can play and they will need to use the ELC of those guys so adding Gio would be nice for them it's not really plausible

Bruins probably aren't adding any d men with much of a cap hit
They have their 3 vets and 3 kids who all showed they can play and they will need to use the ELC of those guys so adding Gio would be nice for them it's not really plausible
- Redmile247

I agree those kids can play, but not at the level of a Giordano. He`s also better than Seidenberg and Boychuck. Also with losing Ference you don`t want to be too inexperienced back there. Plus like I said, if the Flames eat his salary I think the Bruins would be all over him. They need the cap space badly too, this trade could save them I think about 4 mil.

Getting closer to offers they would entertain but I still feel you guys are off. Ive watched a LOT of Seguin and hes much better than you guys are giving him credit for, regardless if he has a spot on the team or not.

Furthermore, Gaudreau is not a Boston Bruin type player. Just saying.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I am in no way questioning Seguin's ability. The kid was the 2nd overall pick for a reason. But on Boston it is wasted talent. It is similar in part to why Pittsburgh was willing to part with Jordan Staal (yes there was brother factors in it). They can move the top 6 (if not top 3) talent of Seguin out and replace that spot with a winger that better fits into their top 6. They may not get that exact return in the specific trade, but it is the cap space that will allow them to gain that. That is where the "off ice" aspects of this trade would be important.

I also agree that Gaudreau isn't the typical Bruins type player, but I wouldn't really say that Seguin is either. I'm not even sure that Kerjci is. But you surround him by players that are that type so that he can play his game.

Maybe offering a winger instead of Backlund. Offer Cammaleri while eating half his Salary. (any attempt to trade Cammi should include eating half the salary).

Via Twitter Feaster has confirmed they have talked to one UFA and will be in talks with another soon. Thoughts? Possibilities?