I don't think you trade for him and not give him a chance.
Same with Jones and Galliardi.
Lines look fine to me for a young team.
- FLflames34

I think Knight vs. Monoghan could be an interesting story. I doubt Sean can stick with the club (they won't want to start his ELC) but who knows. He seems like a hard worker and may be busting his ass because he has a hell of a chance to make this young lineup.

I'll assume Monahan stays in Jr

Cammy-Backlund-Beartschi
Hudler-Stajan-Glencross
Galiardi-Reinhart-Stepniak
Jones(4m!)-Knight-Jackman

Extras: McGratton, Bouma, Hanowski, Horak, Blair Jones, Byron

Gio-Wideman
Brodie-Cundari
O'Brien-But(t)ler

Extras: Smith, Carson, Ramage

Who ever earns starter out of camp
McDonald

Something seems off about this.
- fry

Welcome to Calgary Sam Reinhart

Welcome to Calgary Sam Reinhart
- Lanny9

Exactly or maybe Ekblad.

Welcome to Calgary Sam Reinhart
- Lanny9

Nothing wrong with that at this point of where the Flames are at.

Welcome to Calgary Sam Reinhart
- Lanny9

haha I was thinking the same thing when I saw that roster.
Some interesting pieces in there...but it is going to be a rough season as a season ticket holder (like myself)
should be fun to watch i guess

Nothing wrong with that at this point of where the Flames are at.
- cmpdave

With the exception of it being the worst season in Flames history? We've never picked in the top 5. I'm proud of that. That will be gone. I don't want to be a shameless fan like so many Oilers fans have turned into.

Anyone think this team can win? Is it at all palatable?

I have always really liked Backlund. And I am also very optimistic for what Gaudrerau may bring. But if the two of them, in part, can bring back Seguin then I say go for it.

If they are going to bring in Seguin, then where does Backlund fit into the line up. Assuming Monahan will be at worst the Number 2 center, then are they really going to keep Backlund as the number 3. And to be honest how many years in a row has it been "Backlund is about to break out".

For Gaudreau, he may be great. Or he may get crushed at his size. And the biggest factor to me is that he still doesn't have a contract. To be honest why wouldn't he do what Justin Schultz did. He can just go straight to being a UFA and then sign on a team that is a contender and not re-building. I hate to say it, but it may be a case of maximize on the asset now while they still can.

The main thing to me is do not give up Baertschi. And do not give up next year's first round pick. (assumendly it will be a high pick for the Flames still).

From Boston's end of it. I can see the argument that Seguin should be worth more. But look at some facts. They are not happy with him. Hence the playoff demotion. You can question his performance, and it should be, but his replacement (Jagr) only had one more point then him and didn't score any goals in the playoffs. Boston also has to use Seguin not to his potential. He is a centerman, but he isn't going to play ahead of Bergeron or Krecji. So they will never get all out of him that they would hope to. Then there is the cap space. Boston has 5 million in cap space now, and they have not yet signed a goalie. (That counts Horton not coming back). Rask is going to demand that cap space, if not more. Then next year the cap comes down more and they have to resign Bergeron.

While from a quality of player point of view, Seguin may deserve more, but Boston needs the cap help. That's what this trade should do for them.

Offer Backlund, Gaudreau, next years 2nd rounder, and the tweak it from there. Player quality may not be there, but it does give the other benefits.

I have always really liked Backlund. And I am also very optimistic for what Gaudrerau may bring. But if the two of them, in part, can bring back Seguin then I say go for it.

If they are going to bring in Seguin, then where does Backlund fit into the line up. Assuming Monahan will be at worst the Number 2 center, then are they really going to keep Backlund as the number 3. And to be honest how many years in a row has it been "Backlund is about to break out".

For Gaudreau, he may be great. Or he may get crushed at his size. And the biggest factor to me is that he still doesn't have a contract. To be honest why wouldn't he do what Justin Schultz did. He can just go straight to being a UFA and then sign on a team that is a contender and not re-building. I hate to say it, but it may be a case of maximize on the asset now while they still can.

The main thing to me is do not give up Baertschi. And do not give up next year's first round pick. (assumendly it will be a high pick for the Flames still).

From Boston's end of it. I can see the argument that Seguin should be worth more. But look at some facts. They are not happy with him. Hence the playoff demotion. You can question his performance, and it should be, but his replacement (Jagr) only had one more point then him and didn't score any goals in the playoffs. Boston also has to use Seguin not to his potential. He is a centerman, but he isn't going to play ahead of Bergeron or Krecji. So they will never get all out of him that they would hope to. Then there is the cap space. Boston has 5 million in cap space now, and they have not yet signed a goalie. (That counts Horton not coming back). Rask is going to demand that cap space, if not more. Then next year the cap comes down more and they have to resign Bergeron.

While from a quality of player point of view, Seguin may deserve more, but Boston needs the cap help. That's what this trade should do for them.

Offer Backlund, Gaudreau, next years 2nd rounder, and the tweak it from there. Player quality may not be there, but it does give the other benefits.
- dal_johnson

Good analysis other than the bolded. Savard LTIR adds about $4M in space and its pretty widely accepted that the cap will likely increase substantially for 14/15

Edit: Rumour has it B's were pushing hard to draft Lindholm who they might have been targetting with that #6 pick. I'd suspect they'll want Baertschi in any deal now as they need some talent on the wing in the pipes.

I have always really liked Backlund. And I am also very optimistic for what Gaudrerau may bring. But if the two of them, in part, can bring back Seguin then I say go for it.

If they are going to bring in Seguin, then where does Backlund fit into the line up. Assuming Monahan will be at worst the Number 2 center, then are they really going to keep Backlund as the number 3. And to be honest how many years in a row has it been "Backlund is about to break out".

For Gaudreau, he may be great. Or he may get crushed at his size. And the biggest factor to me is that he still doesn't have a contract. To be honest why wouldn't he do what Justin Schultz did. He can just go straight to being a UFA and then sign on a team that is a contender and not re-building. I hate to say it, but it may be a case of maximize on the asset now while they still can.

The main thing to me is do not give up Baertschi. And do not give up next year's first round pick. (assumendly it will be a high pick for the Flames still).

From Boston's end of it. I can see the argument that Seguin should be worth more. But look at some facts. They are not happy with him. Hence the playoff demotion. You can question his performance, and it should be, but his replacement (Jagr) only had one more point then him and didn't score any goals in the playoffs. Boston also has to use Seguin not to his potential. He is a centerman, but he isn't going to play ahead of Bergeron or Krecji. So they will never get all out of him that they would hope to. Then there is the cap space. Boston has 5 million in cap space now, and they have not yet signed a goalie. (That counts Horton not coming back). Rask is going to demand that cap space, if not more. Then next year the cap comes down more and they have to resign Bergeron.

While from a quality of player point of view, Seguin may deserve more, but Boston needs the cap help. That's what this trade should do for them.

Offer Backlund, Gaudreau, next years 2nd rounder, and the tweak it from there. Player quality may not be there, but it does give the other benefits.
- dal_johnson

I like it! I like it a lot!

I like it! I like it a lot!
- whipper334

Time to change the focus...go for B Schenn or Couturier out of Philly, now that they are in cap hell. Trade Gio and a pick for either. Less expensive than the above if you ask me.

Time to change the focus...go for B Schenn or Couturier out of Philly, now that they are in cap hell. Trade Gio and a pick for either. Less expensive than the above if you ask me.
- FLflames34

Very true.

Time to change the focus...go for B Schenn or Couturier out of Philly, now that they are in cap hell. Trade Gio and a pick for either. Less expensive than the above if you ask me.
- FLflames34

Way to act like Clouts, boys.

Feaster says Gio isnt going anywhere. You know, because we expect to win. Flipping the ship isnt the way to go. Have some shame. Next year's top 10 isnt even supposed to be that good.

Way to act like Clouts, boys.

Feaster says Gio isnt going anywhere. You know, because we expect to win. Flipping the ship isnt the way to go. Have some shame. Next year's top 10 isnt even supposed to be that good.
- fry

Meh- I guess. Not trying to promote tanking though. Just pointing out IF they were considering Seguin, Schenn or Cout would likely come at a cheaper cost while retaining the top prospects.

Meh- I guess. Not trying to promote tanking though. Just pointing out IF they were considering Seguin, Schenn or Cout would likely come at a cheaper cost while retaining the top prospects.
- FLflames34

Fair enough. Cap space should be a premium in the next couple weeks. We'd be looking at a clunky contract but (like feaster stated he was looking for) size and skill on the right side. Scott Hartnell?

Time to change the focus...go for B Schenn or Couturier out of Philly, now that they are in cap hell. Trade Gio and a pick for either. Less expensive than the above if you ask me.
- FLflames34

Gio is 4mill. Flyers have no room.

Exactly or maybe Ekblad.
- whipper334

or trade for a 2015 1st and stock up on 1st so that a trade up for mcdavid can be made.

That kid is going to be worth it.

Gio is 4mill. Flyers have no room.
- ystoil

take back hartnell or meszaros.

Way to act like Clouts, boys.

Feaster says Gio isnt going anywhere. You know, because we expect to win. Flipping the ship isnt the way to go. Have some shame. Next year's top 10 isnt even supposed to be that good.
- fry

No one is suggesting to tank, it's just going to be a long season. Relax!

or trade for a 2015 1st and stock up on 1st so that a trade up for mcdavid can be made.

That kid is going to be worth it.
- numbear

Would you trade Crosby for a couple of 1st rnd's? Essentially that is what you think someone will do by trading down with CGY so we can get McDavid. Won't happen. We either win that lottery or we don't get Connor.

No one is suggesting to tank, it's just going to be a long season. Relax!
- whipper334

20g for baert
30g for Glenx
backland plays 70 games and gets 50pts

I consider it a good year next year if they hit close to that.

Would you trade Crosby for a couple of 1st rnd's? Essentially that is what you think someone will do by trading down with CGY so we can get McDavid. Won't happen. We either win that lottery or we don't get Connor.
- TandA4Flames

but if we have more firsts it gives the likely hood of winning that lottery a big chance. Loading up on 1sts next year for a shot at the 1st overall in 2015 knowing whats coming up is a valid strategy.

That being said how does it work if you had someones pick.

lets say you traded for a pick and that pick was 6th, would it be in the lottery? or are only picks owned by the original team considered?

but if we have more firsts it gives the likely hood of winning that lottery a big chance. Loading up on 1sts next year for a shot at the 1st overall in 2015 knowing whats coming up is a valid strategy.

That being said how does it work if you had someones pick.

lets say you traded for a pick and that pick was 6th, would it be in the lottery? or are only picks owned by the original team considered?
- numbear

Thats what I was thinking as good strategy as well. All 1st rounders belonging to non playoff teams are eligible regardless if the pick was traded or not. BOS could have won the 1st overall in the Taylor/Tyler battle.

Time to change the focus...go for B Schenn or Couturier out of Philly, now that they are in cap hell. Trade Gio and a pick for either. Less expensive than the above if you ask me.
- FLflames34

Definitely. They just signed vinny.

With the exception of it being the worst season in Flames history? We've never picked in the top 5. I'm proud of that. That will be gone. I don't want to be a shameless fan like so many Oilers fans have turned into.

Anyone think this team can win? Is it at all palatable?
- fry

Go (frank) yourself assface. We sure as hell havent enjoyed a losing team.

Hopefully we can convince someone to take our promising young d man, Chris butler. It worked on feaster.