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Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
Todd have you heard any rumblings about Baertschi, Backlund & a pick for Seguin?
- whipper334


Better than the pick + Johnny Gaudreau rumour that was floating around!
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
Todd have you heard any rumblings about Baertschi, Backlund & a pick for Seguin?
- whipper334

Would be nice if you could send Gaudreau instead of Baertschi in said potential deal.
beingaflamesfan
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
Todd have you heard any rumblings about Baertschi, Backlund & a pick for Seguin?
- whipper334


That deal does not sound good to me.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
Seguin being moved might be best for both sides, and Calgary would be a prime destination for him. Seguin and Monahan as your 1C and 2C going forward would be a great start to rebuilding the franchise.
svolheim
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 4:02 PM ET
Damn it Wilson.... Trade McGinn (who is a great player) for Galiardi and Winnik, Lose Winink (who kills it for the Ducks) sign Burish (Crap) Lose Galiardi (who was gaining chemistry with Thorton and Burns) get a 4th rnd pick.... WTF! Can I have Ginner back please lol. Galiardi is looking for I would say 2-3 million a year which is why we have to let him go and got Kennedy for a 2nd rnd pick from Pit... Wait I am so confused!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:04 PM ET
Would be nice if you could send Gaudreau instead of Baertschi in said potential deal.
- poisondhearts37

Do you mean from Calgary's standpoint? Gaudreau is not on the same level as Baertschi imo.
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:06 PM ET
Seguin being moved might be best for both sides, and Calgary would be a prime destination for him. Seguin and Monahan as your 1C and 2C going forward would be a great start to rebuilding the franchise.
- Rocktane


I'd do the Backlund + Gaudreau + Pick but I would not do it with baertschi in the deal. Not a (frank)ing chance. Backs finally started to look good last year and Baertschi is a great attitude, high potential player. I'd prefer this to Seguin and the talk of his bad attitude.
kickazzflames
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 09.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:06 PM ET
Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg 25s It's a 1 year, $1.25 million deal. #Flames
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:06 PM ET
Do you mean from Calgary's standpoint? Gaudreau is not on the same level as Baertschi imo.
- Morris


Your opinion was correct and yes, I'm pretty sure he meant from Calgary's POV.
kickazzflames
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 09.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:12 PM ET
Really seems strange for the sharks, but it must of been about making space for bodies.

But for a 2015 4th... wow.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:13 PM ET
Do you mean from Calgary's standpoint? Gaudreau is not on the same level as Baertschi imo.
- Morris


Gaudreau is an insane player.. I`d be more upset if we lost him at this point. Watching the two of them at development camp, you could tell both of them were special players.

Baertschi reads the play and gets to the right places according to the play. Probably our best player on the half-boards now that Bouw is gone. Gaudreau finds his spot and tears off on a breakaway every couple shifts. He doesnt miss often either, always top-shelf full speed. His play at World Juniors this year was good but most of his points were from the side of the net.
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
Gaudreau is an insane player.. I`d be more upset if we lost him at this point. Watching the two of them at development camp, you could tell both of them were special players.

Baertschi reads the play and gets to the right places according to the play. Gaudreau finds his spot and tears off on a breakaway every couple shifts. He doesnt miss often either, always top-shelf full speed.

- fry


I see what you mean but development camp is a far cry from the NHL especially in regards to the size hurdle he is faced with. I like what I see from Gaudreau, but he is nowhere near the level of Baertschi at this point.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:20 PM ET
Your opinion was correct and yes, I'm pretty sure he meant from Calgary's POV.
- IggyOnly

I was.
saneopinion
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:22 PM ET
I see what you mean but development camp is a far cry from the NHL especially in regards to the size hurdle he is faced with. I like what I see from Gaudreau, but he is nowhere near the level of Baertschi at this point.
- IggyOnly

Just an aside because although this was rumoured...and still is actually, it would have to involve our best prospect because Seguin is a known quantity. JG is super skilled but my feeling is he's worthless until they sign him. Sven is on entry level, great bang for the buck and the Flames could take Tylers cap hit no sweat. Makes sense on many levels except the one where it actually happens!
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 2 @ 4:24 PM ET
Good deal.
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:26 PM ET
Just an aside because although this was rumoured...and still is actually, it would have to involve our best prospect because Seguin is a known quantity. JG is super skilled but my feeling is he's worthless until they sign him. Sven is on entry level, great bang for the buck and the Flames could take Tylers cap hit no sweat. Makes sense on many levels except the one where it actually happens!
- saneopinion


My issue with it is the inclusion of both Backlund and Baertschi. I agree that is what it takes but it's definitely not my preferred route. On a side note, haven't seen you around for a while SO. Welcome back.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
I see what you mean but development camp is a far cry from the NHL especially in regards to the size hurdle he is faced with. I like what I see from Gaudreau, but he is nowhere near the level of Baertschi at this point.
- IggyOnly


Nowhere? You realize this player has been arguably the best player in the NCAA for the last couple years. He was a pivotal component of the gold medal winning USA team at world juniors. Baertschi was good at world juniors a couple years ago but far from dominant (that is before he got his bell rung and sat out).

He was on a worse team at WJHC but you can still tell when a player is dominant despite their team being bad. Marko Dano comes to mind in that aspect. Tobias Reider as well.

Maybe watch Gaudreau play a little more. Most of my friends underrated him until they sat down and watched him play. The guy is unstoppable.

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
I see what you mean but development camp is a far cry from the NHL especially in regards to the size hurdle he is faced with. I like what I see from Gaudreau, but he is nowhere near the level of Baertschi at this point.
- IggyOnly


Seguin > pretty much any player prospect flames have ... I would easily hand over 1 of Sven or Johnny hockey
saneopinion
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
Nowhere? You realize this player has been arguably the best player in the NCAA for the last couple years. He was a pivotal component of the gold medal winning USA team at world juniors. Baertschi was good at world juniors a couple years ago but far from dominant (that is before he got his bell rung and sat out).

He was on a worse team at WJHC but you can still tell when a player is dominant despite their team being bad. Marko Dano comes to mind in that aspect. Tobias Reider as well.

Maybe watch Gaudreau play a little more. Most of my friends underrated him until they sat down and watched him play. The guy is unstoppable.

- fry

Too much success means more likely to go the Shultz route, basically untradeable until he's signed. He could simply walk away UFA.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
I'd do the Backlund + Gaudreau + Pick but I would not do it with baertschi in the deal. Not a (frank)ing chance. Backs finally started to look good last year and Baertschi is a great attitude, high potential player. I'd prefer this to Seguin and the talk of his bad attitude.
- IggyOnly

He doesn't get along with the coach is what I heard. That's a far cry from a bad attitude. I agree though sub JG for SB and done deal.
saneopinion
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:31 PM ET
My issue with it is the inclusion of both Backlund and Baertschi. I agree that is what it takes but it's definitely not my preferred route. On a side note, haven't seen you around for a while SO. Welcome back.
- IggyOnly

I think back, beart, a draft pick would be the START. If they are truly rebuilding though having Seguin, Monahan would go a long way towards that.
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:32 PM ET
Nowhere? You realize this player has been arguably the best player in the NCAA for the last couple years. He was a pivotal component of the gold medal winning USA team at world juniors. Baertschi was good at world juniors a couple years ago but far from dominant (that is before he got his bell rung and sat out).

He was on a worse team at WJHC but you can still tell when a player is dominant despite their team being bad. Marko Dano comes to mind in that aspect. Tobias Reider as well.

Maybe watch Gaudreau play a little more. Most of my friends underrated him until they sat down and watched him play. The guy is unstoppable.

- fry


I'm not looking at his skill. Look at his size. It is going to be difficult for him to transition to a league where the average size has got to be ~20-30 lb's heavier (major guess here).
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 4:32 PM ET
You beat TSN at breaking this. Nicely done, Todd.
- fry


I didn't break it. You can see right off the hop I gave credit where it was due.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:33 PM ET
Too much success means more likely to go the Shultz route, basically untradeable until he's signed. He could simply walk away UFA.
- saneopinion


The Fan 960 really likes to cultivate this thought. I'm not worried. Shultz, Knight, and Wheeler are the only players that come to mind of players that have done that. That's out of a pretty large pool of college players playing in the NHL.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:34 PM ET
I didn't break it. You can see right off the hop I gave credit where it was due.
- Todd.Cordell


"Break" was the wrong word. My apologies. You did have a blog up before TSN had a story on it though.
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