Columbus will probably sign Vinny, they are very very sneaky now

what does it feel like to rub a crystal ball?
- Dozzer

i bet 20 he hasnt seen bolland play more than 3 games in his career
- big_dion

he has offensive skill.. i remember him on the knights.. the guy can play offense.

Acquiring Bolland just limited our ability to sign both a player like Lecavalier and Clarkson, which is what we needed, an upgrade at 1st line center, and an upgrade at 2nd line RW. Instead we filled Macs spot with another 3rd liner.
- ThePresident

You cant pass on a deal to upgrade like Nonis did with Bolland...because you might be able to land the 2 most sought after FA. the odds of one of them is low, both all but nothing.

IF...and thats if both decided to sign here..you can read between the lines on what Nonis said...they will use both buyouts this year or make a trade to make it work.

I failed to mention that Bolland would have cleared the puck and THEN taken over in net.
- Colin Dambrauskas

What was the favorite part of your trip / place in Italy, and would you go back is the big question..

I wonder if the Leafs used St. Louis/Kessel talent/size/speed comparisons to try to entice Lecavalier to T.O.

"Hey Vinny, you've already got a cup, how would you like to be a 1c again with a sniping playmaker on your right wing again. We'd be willing to give you Grabovski's contract....just say the word and he's gone."

Yes, I'm assuming, as of right now, if we lose Bozak, our 1st line center situation is worse then before.
- ThePresident

so your saying dont make a perfectly acceptable deal because you think 2 of the top free agents are going sign here... because all those other top free agents that people said the leafs had room for have signed here... thats like saying im not going to invest in this decent property because im saving my money for lottery tickets...

Why not just a straight buyout on Komi.? 66% of 4.5 M over 2 years right?

1. 5 M hit the next 2 years. So saves you 3M. Then if you need to.. buyout Liles and Grabo.

Saves you almost 11M this year.

Only buying out Grabo if we land another C.

bolland >>>> bozak

easily
- Dozzer

and fyi - i think u see grabo get a legit shot at manning the ship - #1C

Yes, I'm assuming, as of right now, if we lose Bozak, our 1st line center situation is worse then before.
- ThePresident

I don't disagree with your idea that eating up cap space for a third liner gives you less flexibility to make other deals, that's common sense. I do take issue with the fact that you seem to be equating it specifically to our ability to get Lecavalier and/or Clarkson.

Essentially if we don't sign one or both of them I don't want to hear you say that the Bolland trade cost us Lecavalier and/or Clarkson because there's no way you can know that for sure. There could be dozens of reasons they don't want to play for us and while dollar amount offered is one if Nonis REALLY needed to make some cap space he would be able to.

Hell, he's already been quoted as saying they have some things in the works that would free up cap space not including using the buyouts and he can still use both of them and make whatever trades or demoting guys as necessary to free up cap space.

We do have to re-sign our RFAs but they aren't exactly all going to be making $5mil a season, most of them will probably be more like $2.5mil if that.

This is:


- Atomic Wedgie

Yes...I see it states "All transactions are final - options are forbidden". My mistake.

I personally hope Grabo ends up on the wing. I think it suits his skill-set much better. If he could just wheel up and down the boards with less defensive responsibility I think he could thrive.

My lineup prediction.

JVR Weiss Kessel
Lupul Kadri Clarkson
Kuli Bolland (Marlie)
Orr McClem McLaren/Marlie

Scudari Dion
Gunnerson Gardiner
Franson Fraser
O'Byrne

Buyout/Traded/Presser - Grabbo, Liles, Komi

I don't disagree with your idea that eating up cap space for a third liner gives you less flexibility to make other deals, that's common sense. I do take issue with the fact that you seem to be equating it specifically to our ability to get Lecavalier and/or Clarkson.

Essentially if we don't sign one or both of them I don't want to hear you say that the Bolland trade cost us Lecavalier and/or Clarkson because there's no way you can know that for sure. There could be dozens of reasons they don't want to play for us and while dollar amount offered is one if Nonis REALLY needed to make some cap space he would be able to.

Hell, he's already been quoted as saying they have some things in the works that would free up cap space not including using the buyouts and he can still use both of them and make whatever trades or demoting guys as necessary to free up cap space.

We do have to re-sign our RFAs but they aren't exactly all going to be making $5mil a season, most of them will probably be more like $2.5mil if that.
- deerow84

(frank) vinny.

My lineup prediction.

JVR Weiss Kessel
Lupul Kadri Clarkson
Kuli Bolland (Marlie)
Orr McClem McLaren/Marlie

Scudari Dion
Gunnerson Gardiner
Franson Fraser
O'Byrne

Buyout/Traded/Presser - Grabbo, Liles, Komi
- HipHopisDead

WEISS?

so hold on let me get this straight, were buying out grabo for weiss.

lol

holy (frank).

What was the favorite part of your trip / place in Italy, and would you go back is the big question..
- bixll

I would CERTAINLY go back...and my favorite part was the time spent on the coast in the little villages. Took scooter rides to the different parts, had different foods and wines from place to place. The food is as beautiful as the sights. Everything was fresh. Everything.

Why not just a straight buyout on Komi.? 66% of 4.5 M over 2 years right?

1. 5 M hit the next 2 years. So saves you 3M. Then if you need to.. buyout Liles and Grabo.

Saves you almost 11M this year.

Only buying out Grabo if we land another C.
- D.Lemieux

Yeah I agree, I don't see the point of using a compliance buyout on Komi as he only has one more year left. Buy him out as normal or just leave him in the Marlies which, as far as I remember, doesn't count against the cap unless that changed in the new CBA.

Like you said, that frees up a huge pile of cap space and the only actual roster player we lose is Grabs and if we're replacing him with a better free agent then who cares?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...nis-challenges-grabovski/

stop wasting your brain on the grabo buyout- aint happening.

I personally hope Grabo ends up on the wing. I think it suits his skill-set much better. If he could just wheel up and down the boards with less defensive responsibility I think he could thrive.
- markmark

...like the Detroit Red?

...like the Detroit Red?
- Colin Dambrauskas

sure wel trade him for kronwall

I will go look now, I have not been on FB today.

edit: Awesome pictures Colin!
- LeafMan

I would CERTAINLY go back...and my favorite part was the time spent on the coast in the little villages. Took scooter rides to the different parts, had different foods and wines from place to place. The food is as beautiful as the sights. Everything was fresh. Everything.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Just adding to your comment! Went to Rome as part of our honeymoon last year. I haven't looked at food back home the same ever since. I now know why north americans are so fat and why the europeans are so skinny! Fresh food to die for!

Sorry to interupt!

I just got indigestion

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Bozak contract talks expected to resume today with Leafs. Proposal on the table believed to be 8 years at less than $5 mil per.

I just got indigestion

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Bozak contract talks expected to resume today with Leafs. Proposal on the table believed to be 8 years at less than $5 mil per.
- LeafMan

I just got indigestion

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Bozak contract talks expected to resume today with Leafs. Proposal on the table believed to be 8 years at less than $5 mil per.
- LeafMan

8 YEARS even if we signed him at 3M thats alot of years