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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:53 PM ET
how the (frank) are they keeping everyone?
- hammarby31

Kunitz and Dupuis know their careers will spiral downhill without Crosby and Malkin so they're willing to stay for less. Relax, they still have zero depth as they have 40% of their cap in 3 players.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:53 PM ET
Looking into signing Jonathan Blum would be a good signing. Trading Coby, Mez, and Reader would be the ideal trade bait... I just cant see how any team would want to buy Mez because he has such little value, but Grossmann blocks so many shots for us. I cant see who they are gonna get rid of. But who do they get in return? Defensive prospects and draft picks? The possibilities are endless with these guys...


I could even see Hartsy even being used as trade bait with the way he performed this season.

- justahockeyguy2



There may be some teams that need to reach the cap floor for Mezzy, but I do not know any off the top of my head, and wed get junk picks.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:53 PM ET
Voting no is the right and responsible vote.
- Scoob

not in arizona
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:53 PM ET
certainly seems that way. but i said the same thing during the playoffs about brad richards being bought out, so what do i know
- FlyerMike18


How the hell they didn't buy him out is beyond anybody's comprehension. That move is going to bite them in the backside for a long, LONG time.
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:54 PM ET
There may be some teams that need to reach the cap floor for Mezzy, but I do not know any off the top of my head, and wed get junk picks.
- aosplayo



Yeah the MOST I can see the Flyers getting for Mez is a 4th rounder... and thats just being generous.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:54 PM ET
This

No way schenn or cooter get shipped out

Schenn is Dustin brown in the making!

They'll be able to dump Mez for peanuts

Let's roll

- Just5


I think it is going to be far from easy to dump Meszaros.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:54 PM ET
from another bored

Tim Thomas pissing red, white, and blue at intermission distracted teammates causing the Flyers to lose to Columbus.

#mediacircus
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:54 PM ET
So Holmgren signs Vinny Lecavalier and twitter is full of jokes about his inability to manage the cap. Ray Shero spends $73mm in one day on Letang and Dupuis and there's a slew of, good job, great value tweets.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:56 PM ET
TK was never in their plans anyway once they signed Morrow and what not. He was mostly a healthy scratch for the rest of the season.
- justahockeyguy2

all he did was kill the flyers

good riddance
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:57 PM ET
oops
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:57 PM ET
all he did was kill the flyers

good riddance

- Marc D



TRUTH
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:57 PM ET
So Holmgren signs Vinny Lecavalier and twitter is full of jokes about his inability to manage the cap. Ray Shero spends $73mm in one day on Letang and Dupuis and there's a slew of, good job, great value tweets.
- Jsaquella

We got the guy for $4.5 (frank)ing million a year, a number people were DREAMING to get him for before his signing, and we're somehow a laughing stock because of it? I believe it's an extremely serious case of jealousy syndrome.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:57 PM ET
Ideal situation is we drop Meszaros for cap relief, and sign one of Thomas, Nabokov, or Emery to 1B with Mason.

Secondary choice would be to deal Coburn for picks, maybe grab Blum or Russell for youth and depth.

Now this is Homer we're talking about, so I could see...

Coburn for MPS or Smid +.

Meszaros for new stick tape.

BSchenn for Edler.

Some sort of deal for Halak.

I hope we keep BSchenn and Couturier at all costs.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:58 PM ET
So Holmgren signs Vinny Lecavalier and twitter is full of jokes about his inability to manage the cap. Ray Shero spends $73mm in one day on Letang and Dupuis and there's a slew of, good job, great value tweets.
- Jsaquella

cesspool
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 3 @ 12:00 AM ET
We got the guy for $4.5 (frank)ing million a year, a number people were DREAMING to get him for before his signing, and we're somehow a laughing stock because of it? I believe it's an extremely serious case of jealousy syndrome.
- JAKEw1234

5 years is a long time
whatever, he will definitely help this year
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:00 AM ET
Ideal situation is we drop Meszaros for cap relief, and sign one of Thomas, Nabokov, or Emery to 1B with Mason.

Secondary choice would be to deal Coburn for picks, maybe grab Blum or Russell for youth and depth.

Now this is Homer we're talking about, so I could see...

Coburn for MPS or Smid +.

Meszaros for new stick tape.

BSchenn for Edler.

Some sort of deal for Halak.

I hope we keep BSchenn and Couturier at all costs.

- Rocktane

"I hope we keep BSchenn at all costs"
Trades BSchenn


A package with Coburn, Mezaros, and Read + picks might be able to get us the defenseman we've been wanting. If we're lucky.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 3 @ 12:00 AM ET
I actually don't know, as I don't really watch Myers play. Does he have any offensive game at all, or is he purely stay at home? What is his upside potential, top pairing, or second pairing? I'd like to keep Coots personally. I think he'll compete for a Selke someday. And ya, I really like what Buffalo did this draft. You guys were definitely winners this year. A defense of Lauridsen (6'6), Morin (6'7), and Myers (6'8) would definitely be something scary. Maybe our defenses could have train-pulling contests a few years down the road
- JAKEw1234


He is not a stay at home D at all. His strengths are his skating, his skating, and his skating. He can fly up and down the ice, especially for being such a big guy. He can sometimes carry the puck up the ice himself, and excels at give and go, even for a D man. He has a ridiculously long reach with his stick. He has no problem hitting either. People want him to be Chara, but he is more offensive and less physical then Chara, however he is a vastly superior skater.

His potential is a number 1/2. I say one slash two because he is not a shut down defender with offensive skills like a Weber or Lidstrom. He has plenty of offensive skills though.

He came into the shortened season last year out of shape (not like Byfuglien, just not in tip top hockey shape) and his season play showed it.

If you pair him with a steady, calm D, you will see the best in him because he will then be free to roam around the ice making plays, both offensively and defensively, without fear of his D partner being out to lunch if he needs to lean on him.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 12:01 AM ET
So Holmgren signs Vinny Lecavalier and twitter is full of jokes about his inability to manage the cap. Ray Shero spends $73mm in one day on Letang and Dupuis and there's a slew of, good job, great value tweets.
- Jsaquella


does this surprise you?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 12:01 AM ET
oops
- exlund


huh?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:03 AM ET
He is not a stay at home D at all. His strengths are his skating, his skating, and his skating. He can fly up and down the ice, especially for being such a big guy. He can sometimes carry the puck up the ice himself, and excels at give and go, even for a D man. He has a ridiculously long reach with his stick. He has no problem hitting either. People want him to be Chara, but he is more offensive and less physical then Chara, however he is a vastly superior skater.

His potential is a number 1/2. I say one slash two because he is not a shut down defender with offensive skills like a Weber or Lidstrom. He has plenty of offensive skills though.

He came into the shortened season last year out of shape (not like Byfuglien, just not in tip top hockey shape) and his season play showed it.

If you pair him with a steady, calm D, you will see the best in him because he will then be free to roam around the ice making plays, both offensively and defensively, without fear of his D partner being out to lunch if he needs to lean on him.

- kingcong39


Good sell, we'll take him


I am actually salivating at the thought of a D core with Lauridsen, Morin, and Myers, though. The cost is the only problem for me. What trade would you like to see? With the condition being that BSchenn is going your direction instead of Coots?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:05 AM ET
5 years is a long time
whatever, he will definitely help this year

- Marc D

Just remember that Tampa would more then gladly have their old captain back for 4.5 a year, if we ever find that we need to trade him.
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:06 AM ET
I WANT KULIKOV!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 12:07 AM ET
does this surprise you?
- hammarby31


Not a bit.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 3 @ 12:07 AM ET
cesspool
- Crimsoninja

the internet is built for hate
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 3 @ 12:08 AM ET
So Holmgren signs Vinny Lecavalier and twitter is full of jokes about his inability to manage the cap. Ray Shero spends $73mm in one day on Letang and Dupuis and there's a slew of, good job, great value tweets.
- Jsaquella

c'mon man. the bryz thing is atrocious and he deserves the razzing. let him make smart moves this off season to get the stink out
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