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justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:59 PM ET
Gagne can still bring it... I would want to see him back... I hope he comes back lol theres definitely, always a place for Gags. I hope
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 2 @ 10:59 PM ET
Grant Clitsome re-signs with the Jets, 3 years, $2.066mm per year, per his agent
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:00 PM ET
Does anyone else see a Coburn/Read/Mez or Coburn/Read/Grossmann trade coming?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:01 PM ET
Does anyone else see a Coburn/Read/Mez or Coburn/Read/Grossmann trade coming?
- justahockeyguy2


yes.

They're not done.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 11:01 PM ET
I'd love to see gagne back He would fillout the 3rd line nicely. Can they put Rosehill on waivers so he can be sent down if he clears? Or does he have too many years.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:02 PM ET
C'mon where's the action in here!!!

Vinny vinny vinny!!!


That TB poster a whole back brought up the fact that he has been playing with garbage wingers for years now. He has played away from stamkos and st Louis.

Now I guess u can look at it and say well he's avoided top shutdown lines then

I'm excited. The flyers really needed this shot in the arm. Don't think the streit signing was cutting it there
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:02 PM ET
I'd love to see gagne back He would fillout the 3rd line nicely. Can they put Rosehill on waivers so he can be sent down if he clears? Or does he have too many years.
- jstross


Rosehill can be sent down, but the savings would be minimal.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:03 PM ET
C'mon where's the action in here!!!

Vinny vinny vinny!!!


That TB poster a whole back brought up the fact that he has been playing with garbage wingers for years now. He has played away from stamkos and st Louis.

Now I guess u can look at it and say well he's avoided top shutdown lines then

I'm excited. The flyers really needed this shot in the arm. Don't think the streit signing was cutting it there

- Just5



Lecavalier will play with garbage wingers again in Philadelphia
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:04 PM ET
Lecavalier will play with garbage wingers again in Philadelphia
- watsonnostaw


Doh!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:04 PM ET
Lecavalier will play with garbage wingers again in Philadelphia
- watsonnostaw

That was mean
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:11 PM ET
yes.

They're not done.

- Jsaquella



where do you think the three get dealt to? hmmmm.. tough question
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:11 PM ET
yes.

They're not done.

- Jsaquella

could almost see schenn being moved for a winger if we don't acquire a dman. not that i'm in favor of that, but i could see it happening
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 11:11 PM ET
Rosehill can be sent down, but the savings would be minimal.
- Jsaquella


Minimal savings or not if it helps stay away from LTIR I'm Ok with it. The little nits start to eat at the cap since the Flyers like to spend right up to the limit.

Bartulis+Rosehill+Bonus rollover =
100+675+182 = 957K.

Better ways to spend a million dollars.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:13 PM ET
Homer is looking at his phone, 46 minutes till he calls Tim Thomas.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:14 PM ET
Lecavalier will play with garbage wingers again in Philadelphia
- watsonnostaw


but hey, he'll be avoiding the top shutdown lines too!!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:14 PM ET
where do you think the three get dealt to? hmmmm.. tough question
- justahockeyguy2

If that could get us Edler I would up Vancouver. Too bad it can't
To Winnipeg for Bogosian? Nah they wouldn't take that
Maybe for a blue-chip defensive prospect? We have a few of those but 1 more couldn't hurt. Maybe the 3 to Edmonton for Klefbom?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:14 PM ET
With all these defense men on he market. I believe that Mez is completely untradeable now. I do expect coburn to get dealt.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:15 PM ET
could almost see schenn being moved for a winger if we don't acquire a dman. not that i'm in favor of that, but i could see it happening
- isaiah520


or just play Schenn on the wing.

I'd only move him for a huge defensive upgrade.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:18 PM ET
or just play Schenn on the wing.

I'd only move him for a huge defensive upgrade.

- bradleyc4

i agree even though i don't see schenn as effective a winger as center. real logjam in the middle...just sayin' and knowing homer...
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:19 PM ET
Does anyone else see a Coburn/Read/Mez or Coburn/Read/Grossmann trade coming?
- justahockeyguy2



i'm thinking coburn/hartnell
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:19 PM ET
wow

typical flyers

as long as couts and the schenns and simmonds and jake v aren't going anywhere
I'm cool with it.

but still wow
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:19 PM ET
I think Homer is systematically addressing the key needs of the Flyers. He cut the fat with Bryz and Briere (addition by subtraction, esp with Bryz), he added a top puck moving D man, beating lots of teams to the punch in trading for and adding Streit, he got bigger up front (something he said he wanted to do) with Lecavalier. I am pret-tay, pret-tay impressed. A tip of the cap (no pun intended) to Snider and Comcast as well, for greenlighting the buyouts...that's a lot of coin they are eating.

I don't know what's coming, but I would imagine it would involve jettisoning a D man or two (Mez/Coby) and possibly acquiring an upgrade there (hopefully without giving up top assets, but you have to give to get if the player is worth it (i.e, top pairing caliber D man under 30 yrs old).

If I were them right now, I'd:

1- Lose a D man: Mez or possibly Coby depending on the deal...

2- Sign a short term veteran goalie: Thomas - ideally 1 year deal, 2 max...3-4 mil max...Emery 2-3 yrs, 2.5 mil max per, Nabokov 2-3 mil 1 or 2 yrs., Theodore, or maybe a trade for Halak or give a Khodobin a shot on a Mason like contract and see if one of them emerges...

3 - SIGN GAGNE - he's going to want to be part of this thing...he'll take a discount and he's still a very good two-way hockey player.

-KEEP THE KIDS

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Hartnell Giroux Voracek
Gagne Lecavalier Simmonds
Schenn Couturier Read
McGinn Talbot Rinaldo

Coburn Timonen
Streit Schenn
Gus Grossmann
Gervais
Bourdon
Lauridsen

Callups:
Akeson
Laughton
Cousins

Thomas
Mason
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:20 PM ET
i agree even though i don't see schenn as effective a winger as center. real logjam in the middle...just sayin' and knowing homer...
- isaiah520


They could always go back to the Lavy special -- play Couturier on the 4th line.

And have Schenn center the 3rd.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:20 PM ET
flyers needs

goalie
top end D
left wingers






centers
so lets get vinnie
awesome
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:21 PM ET
Coburn for halak straight up?

I'd do it
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