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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:58 PM ET
All speculation, but I think Schenn moves to Wing.
- MJL


That would be almost a foregone conclusion, wouldn't it?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 9:58 PM ET
I actually really like it. I was half tongue in cheek when I said 5 for 22.5 Bc I didn't think it would be enough. The total cap will be 80 or above near the end of this deal.
It's not choking our cap. We don't hade to trade anyone right now and we are under the cap with Prongers LTIR


Way to go holmer!!

- Just5

No, Homer is the worst GM in the league, remember
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 9:58 PM ET
Myers + (you would have to tell me what you would want as the plus) for Couturier and Meszaros?

The money is virtually a wash. You get to solve both your problem with Meszaros and having too many centers in one deal while immediately improving your D.

I know Myers had an off year last year, but in your system, he would thrive. The guy is a tremendous skater and will play mean when the money is on the line like he did against you in the series two years ago.

- kingcong39


You just brought up one of the few people in the NHL I would be interested in moving Couter for.

Would Myers and your 2014 #1 for Couturier and Meszaros interest the Sabres?
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:58 PM ET
It's hilarious, the Penguins trade for every single player at the trade deadline and all the "professionals" applaud them. Flyers get two players and trade NOTHING (except a pick) to upgrade and now every member of the media cracks jokes about how reckless this team is in getting players. Just proves the pathetic double standard the Penguins enjoy.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 9:59 PM ET
All speculation, but I think Schenn moves to Wing.
- MJL


i think this is a good thing for couturier. he can do what he's already good at: be the shutdown third line center. no need to heap too much pressure on him to perform offensively. let that come as it will. and assuming they don't subtract from the forward ranks, he should still get ice time with some better linemates
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:00 PM ET
not trying to be a smart ass, but why do you try? it's always the same poop. honest question: do you ever get anything out of it?
- FlyerMike18


i rarely listen these days, and i mean rarely. something just had me turn on wip this morning on the way into work. it's always awful. misanelli was beating his "stepford flyers fans" drum this afternoon. just horrendous. i never get anything out of it but aggravation.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:00 PM ET
@johnclarknbc10: Flyers chairman Ed Snider told me yesterday, "We always want to win now. There is no change in philosophy." Lecavalier deal a sign of that
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:01 PM ET
That would be almost a foregone conclusion, wouldn't it?
- kingcong39


certainly seems that way. but i said the same thing during the playoffs about brad richards being bought out, so what do i know
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 2 @ 10:01 PM ET
agita
- tangent_man

Stress is a great diet supplement. Keeps one thin.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:02 PM ET
i rarely listen these days, and i mean rarely. something just had me turn on wip this morning on the way into work. it's always awful. misanelli was beating his "stepford flyers fans" drum this afternoon. just horrendous. i never get anything out of it but aggravation.
- hammarby31


i hear ya man. sometimes we just can't help ourselves
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:03 PM ET
All speculation, but I think Schenn moves to Wing.
- MJL


This


No way schenn or cooter get shipped out

Schenn is Dustin brown in the making!

They'll be able to dump Mez for peanuts

Let's roll
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:05 PM ET
agita
- tangent_man




Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:05 PM ET
No, Homer is the worst GM in the league, remember
- JAKEw1234


This is a good deal. Filled a need IMO if they expect to contend this year
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:08 PM ET
Personally, I would much rather go with Couturier over Schenn, but that is why you countered with that deal because I think you agree

Would it take more then Myers to get Couturier and Mezaros?

Funny you said that about going for the tallest D in hockey as I think Buffalo is trying for that right now with Myers, drafting Ristolainen & Zadarov, and having McNabb at 6'4 probably ready for the NHL next season.

- kingcong39

I actually don't know, as I don't really watch Myers play. Does he have any offensive game at all, or is he purely stay at home? What is his upside potential, top pairing, or second pairing? I'd like to keep Coots personally. I think he'll compete for a Selke someday. And ya, I really like what Buffalo did this draft. You guys were definitely winners this year. A defense of Lauridsen (6'6), Morin (6'7), and Myers (6'8) would definitely be something scary. Maybe our defenses could have train-pulling contests a few years down the road
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:09 PM ET
This is a good deal. Filled a need IMO if they expect to contend this year
- Just5

Sorry I'll have to put #sarcasm at the bottom whenever I say that from now on
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:11 PM ET
i think this is a good thing for couturier. he can do what he's already good at: be the shutdown third line center. no need to heap too much pressure on him to perform offensively. let that come as it will. and assuming they don't subtract from the forward ranks, he should still get ice time with some better linemates
- FlyerMike18

Gagne + Couturier + Talbot = The French Connection
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 10:12 PM ET
This is a good deal. Filled a need IMO if they expect to contend this year
- Just5


I basically look at it this way.

They replaced a 35 year old Briere with a 33 year old Lecavalier and saved 2 million in cap space doing it. Got bigger and most likely more productive in the process. What is not to like? Well, besides the minor problem I have with the term....but its not that big of a deal.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:13 PM ET
I basically look at it this way.

They replaced a 35 year old Briere with a 33 year old Lecavalier and saved 2 million in cap space doing it. Got bigger and most likely more productive in the process. What is not to like? Well, besides the minor problem I have with the term....but its not that big of a deal.

- MBFlyerfan

Remember that a trade back to Tampa is always a plausible way out if we need to clear space.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jul 2 @ 10:13 PM ET
Some of you people are ridiculous; vinny for 4.5 is a good deal, maybe you can get nash with his 1 goal/ 3points in 12 games or Richards at press box for another 8 years!!!!!!

Vinny was the best player last year for the bolts until salo used his foot for target practice; also led the team in hits at that point for those idiots saying he is soft.

Vinny has been the most misused player the last couple of years playing with some beer league wingers; you give him some talented wingers and he'll be just fine.

I hate philly more than life itself but as of today they are my favorite team and will be purchasing my Vinnie flyer jersey ASAP.

- vinnybolt4life

Welcome aboard!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:16 PM ET
I basically look at it this way.

They replaced a 35 year old Briere with a 33 year old Lecavalier and saved 2 million in cap space doing it. Got bigger and most likely more productive in the process. What is not to like? Well, besides the minor problem I have with the term....but its not that big of a deal.

- MBFlyerfan


And don't you want schenn on the wing?

Schenn is going to wing for good and hopefully never looks back
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:16 PM ET
I love the fact that many of Homer's FA signings and trades are for captains and former captains.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:17 PM ET
I basically look at it this way.

They replaced a 35 year old Briere with a 33 year old Lecavalier and saved 2 million in cap space doing it. Got bigger and most likely more productive in the process. What is not to like? Well, besides the minor problem I have with the term....but its not that big of a deal.

- MBFlyerfan

My thoughts exactly
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:18 PM ET
Gagne + Couturier + Talbot = The French Connection
- JAKEw1234


Quebecois Bloc
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 10:20 PM ET
And don't you want schenn on the wing?

Schenn is going to wing for good and hopefully never looks back

- Just5


Yes, I think Schenn should be on the wing. He doesn't have the defensive chops to play center.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:20 PM ET
I love the fact that many of Homer's FA signings and trades are for captains and former captains.
- FlyerGuy

We now have 3 former captains (Kimmo, Streit, Vinny) and a current captain. I mainly like that he isn't just picking up random old guys, he's picking up the best old guys
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