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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:28 PM ET
Yes, and based on that, Pronger does not need to go on LTIR. The Flyers can get over 8M of available Cap space by placing Pronger on LTIR. But they should avoid that if they can.
- MJL


That's good. So basically they can trade Meszaros for a draft pick, and keep the current roster in tact, and have the cap space to bring a goaltender in?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:29 PM ET
Honestly, if they win a cup this year..IF.. they did, it wouldn't matter what happend the next half a decade. People will still be drunk in 2018 from it.
- Deasr1

yea 1 cup is worth it all.

i still don't agree with the carter/richards trade. you guys made the SCF with them and haven't done poop since while they won the cup. idk...holmgren makes a lot of moves but rarely do they result in good things for the club.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:29 PM ET
I like it.

For all intents and purposes, Lecavlier replaced Briere, at less of a cap hit.

That, on its own, is a great move.

But the other shoe will drop, I'm just wondering if it is a Richards/Carter size shoe, or a JVR one.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:29 PM ET
the move looks good on paper. but so did trading bob so you can make bryz your number one.
- rangerdanger94

I'm pretty sure the Rangers also have made a few moves that looked good on paper ...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:29 PM ET
the move looks good on paper. but so did trading bob so you can make bryz your number one.
- rangerdanger94

What does that have to do with what I just posted?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:29 PM ET
the move looks good on paper. but so did trading bob so you can make bryz your number one.
- rangerdanger94

So did Brad Richards lol
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:30 PM ET
Couts and coburn for nurse and eberle?
- PhillaBully



maybe if you throw in like 2 1sts or simmonds.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
yea 1 cup is worth it all.

i still don't agree with the carter/richards trade. you guys made the SCF with them and haven't done poop since while they won the cup. idk...holmgren makes a lot of moves but rarely do they result in good things for the club.

- rangerdanger94

Yeah that year we made the playoffs due to the gimmick....who did we beat?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
Couts and coburn for nurse and eberle?
- PhillaBully

Why Nurse when you can go for Jones? With Weber Nashville can afford to make kind of move much more.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
So did Brad Richards lol
- PhillaBully

and nash
and redden
and kasperitus
and drury
and gomez
and oh who cares at this point
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
That's good. So basically they can trade Meszaros for a draft pick, and keep the current roster in tact, and have the cap space to bring a goaltender in?
- PLindbergh31


4M to bring in a backup or part time starter, full time starter. Etc.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the Rangers also have made a few moves that looked good on paper ...
- FlyerGuy

yea but now you guys are literally the old rangers

So did Brad Richards lol
- PhillaBully

we're gonna win the cup next year BROSEF
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
So did Brad Richards lol
- PhillaBully


The Drury and Gomez deals were great too
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
All possibilities. But not really. Just need to add a Goalie to this lineup

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Tye McGinn ($0.775m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.613m) / Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,704,022; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,395,978

- MJL

Thank you! Now add a goalie and lets role! My fav flyers team I have seen in years!!!
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:32 PM ET
and nash
and redden
and kasperitus
and drury
and gomez
and oh who cares at this point

- 2Real

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:32 PM ET
Thank you! Now add a goalie and lets role! My fav flyers team I have seen in years!!!
- coffee junkie

But....Gags....
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:32 PM ET
and nash
and redden
and kasperitus
and drury
and gomez
and oh who cares at this point

- 2Real

nash? really?

and gomez wasn't too bad for us. he produced when he was a ranger and he kind of got us that superstud mcdonagh.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:32 PM ET
Why Nurse when you can go for Jones? With Weber Nashville can afford to make kind of move much more.
- hereticpride

I think at this point they have their next superstar... Weber is expandable and they can market the poop out of jones...and jones won't cost the 14 mill lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
yea 1 cup is worth it all.

i still don't agree with the carter/richards trade. you guys made the SCF with them and haven't done poop since while they won the cup. idk...holmgren makes a lot of moves but rarely do they result in good things for the club.

- rangerdanger94


Those trades are in the past. And who do you think made the moves to build that team that went to the Finals? The rebuild or whatever you want to call it is a process. That is not finished.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
The Drury and Gomez deals were great too
- flyerfan28

yes yes the rangers spent a lot of money and handed out really bad deals 4-5 years ago. but we've learned and now you guys are doing the same shiz we did.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
the move looks good on paper. but so did trading bob so you can make bryz your number one.
- rangerdanger94


agreed. another example: trading for rick nash
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
4M to bring in a backup or part time starter, full time starter. Etc.
- MJL


Exactly -- their cap issues have always been overstated -- Streit and Lecavalier combined make less that Briere and Bryzgalov did, on the cap, by what...$3 million?

By definition, the Flyers have GAINED money on the cap, from the end of the season until now -- and still have money to move with Meszaros.


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
4M to bring in a backup or part time starter, full time starter. Etc.
- MJL


That's plenty. I just read Lecavalier is 6m for this year. That's salary though right? Not cap hit. I defer all cap hit questions to you. You do have an excellent understanding of the salary cap.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:34 PM ET
I think at this point they have their next superstar... Weber is expandable and they can market the poop out of jones...and jones won't cost the 14 mill lol
- PhillaBully

idk i think they would LOVE a defense of weber, jones, josi, klein, gill, ellis in front of rinne. hands down the best defense in the entire league.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:34 PM ET
I think at this point they have their next superstar... Weber is expandable and they can market the poop out of jones...and jones won't cost the 14 mill lol
- PhillaBully

With the new CBA and cap recapture rules I think interest in Weber throughout the league has probably taken a bit of a hit.
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