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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
Flyers Logic
- Tomahawk

I like to think I've been open minded about their moves, too. Vinny's no scrub, either, but why rush onto this? UGH.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
do

not

trade

couturier

please

- Don'tForgetTocchet


makes more sense to trade Schenn if anyone. Schenn would fulfill a similar role as Vinnie - offensive driver for 2nd line to take matchup pressure away from 1st line. Couturier's defense now becomes more important than Schenn's offensive contribution.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
Gotta love capgeek. Vinny already under contract..
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
Well, we just need to let it play out. I'm not enthused with it. I'd rather use the Cap space to upgrade the defense. Adding both Streit and Lecavalier is going to make it more difficult to add that top defenseman, if a situation arises where one is available.
- MJL



Yeah, it's going to be really tough to add that stud dman under the cap, and makes extending our kids very very difficult.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
Ugh, and we still haven't seen the offseason yet. I'm restraining myself here
- BulliesPhan87


Wait to see what happens Friday. No arguing that Lecavalier makes the Flyers immediately better. He's a big centerman who can win faceoffs, and play a solid game at ES and on special teams.

Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
I don't know how people don't have a serious problem with this. Not that we just signed an awesome player, but Ek was actually right on this one. Does that really not concern you guys as much as me?
- JAKEw1234



Pretty sure this is one of the signs of the apocalypse.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
It's clear he was promised they would try to win right now. Other than him being on the east coast, which matters to him, it's obvious they promised him they would make moves to win right now.
- AllInForFlyers

what if.... weber was coming
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
he can retire!
- 2Real



He's not (frank)ing retiring and leaving millions on the table... stop dreaming.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
Wait to see what happens Friday. No arguing that Lecavalier makes the Flyers immediately better. He's a big centerman who can win faceoffs, and play a solid game at ES and on special teams.
- PLindbergh31

you know we were god awful in faceoffs!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
He's not (frank)ing retiring and leaving millions on the table... stop dreaming.
- Tomahawk

how do you know! maybe he'll feel he's already made his money and go sleep easy at night
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
It's clear he was promised they would try to win right now. Other than him being on the east coast, which matters to him, it's obvious they promised him they would make moves to win right now.
- AllInForFlyers

Which is always their game plan. I don't have an issue with the signing if they get some d help and sign a good back up. I just know that one of these real good young players all but gone. But, you have to give to receive. Or if you're married you have to give to..ah..give more.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
Matt Read is not going to be back now. Trade bait
- Winning


Why would you trade a fantastic young player who is signed to a paltry .9mill contract for next season


Love the Lecav addition, the Flyers were sorely missing a big man center.

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
what if.... weber was coming
- 2Real

Yanick?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
you know we were god awful in faceoffs!
- 2Real


Faceoffs were def an issue
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
Yeah, it's going to be really tough to add that stud dman under the cap, and makes extending our kids very very difficult.
- Tomahawk


Kimmo comes off, Meszaros won't be here. That takes care of Giroux's extension, right there. Schenn's extension won't be more than $3.5, unless he breaks out.

Cap will probably go up next year to $67 million or so; revenues were just fine for the 48 games last year.

It'll work. Hell, you could move Coburn tonight, if you wanted to.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
This move allows Homer to at least make a call to Nashville about Jones.

You know Nashville wasn't thrilled the top 3 forwards were off the board when they picked. I'm sure Weber wasn't either.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
Yeah, it's going to be really tough to add that stud dman under the cap, and makes extending our kids very very difficult.
- Tomahawk


Well, I have a feeling that one of the young kids is going to be traded. If it brings in a young player in return, for a position of need, then I'm okay with that. But not if it brings in another veteran. Because if they add another older defenseman, along with Lecavalier and Streit. While moving out youth. It may make them better now. But possibly less better, in the future.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
Wait to see what happens Friday. No arguing that Lecavalier makes the Flyers immediately better. He's a big centerman who can win faceoffs, and play a solid game at ES and on special teams.
- PLindbergh31

It's definitely not the player I'm frustrated with, but this really feels like they signed him because they could, and I feel like now they'll make a trade just because they can. Maybe I'll be proven wrong.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
63 PO games. 52 points.

Not Danny numbers, but not too shabby either.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
He's not (frank)ing retiring and leaving millions on the table... stop dreaming.
- Tomahawk


hey, long term, i like this better than the hartnell deal
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
Well, I have a feeling that one of the young kids is going to be traded. If it brings in a young player in return, for a position of need, then I'm okay with that. But if not if it brings in another veteran. Because if they add another older defenseman, along with Lecavalier and Streit. While moving out youth. It may make them better now. But possibly less better, in the future.
- MJL


It's clear this is a plan. Get better now. Screw the future!
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
Good player to sign but doesn't help your bargaining position with coburn or meszaros
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
the rangers will trade you our final compliance buyout for voracek.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
hopefully they stay reasonable

all hope of mesz being given a chance though has to be officially done (if it wasn't already)

- FlyerMike18



Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
This move allows Homer to at least make a call to Nashville about Jones.

You know Nashville wasn't thrilled the top 3 forwards were off the board when they picked.

- hereticpride

Doubt that. They could have taken Valarie Nushshooz. If they call about anyone, it's yuou know who. But I can promise you this, the price just went up for him.
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